Let's see some of those patterns from Federal Heavyweight #7 shot ....gun& choke info included...I'm lookin' for a reason to keep on shootin' em'....SO LETS SEE EM'!!!!!!!!!
Best #s I'm gettin' are mid-130's at BEST!!!!
I would love to give them a chance if they would just offer a version without the flight control wad. All of my chokes are ported and have wad catchers in them. There price is much better than the Hevi-13 7's and are rated at a higher velocity.
From a choke mfg. which I cannot name....the owner told me that a WHOLE LOT of folks were shooting the flitecontrol wad thru their ported tube and gettin' not just good results but FANTASTIC results....FACT IS...the reason one is not supposed to shoot this particular wad thru a ported and/or wad stripping choke is because of the way the flitecontrol wad opens rearward and uses the pressure that is created from the tube to assist in the rear-braking petals,not because of damage that may be done to a choke/barrel. This is information obtained from certain folks at Federal Ammo,and an un-named choke mfg.
Out of my 20 ga Mossberg turkey thug, with an SSX choke shooting 3-1.5-7 Federals, I get 152 in the 10" circle at a tape measured 40 yards.
I took Owlhoot's advice and purchased a Carlson's .640 non-ported turkey choke for my Remington 1187 Greenleaf w/21" barrel and patterned the 3 inch 1 5/8 ounce Federal HW #7's. Put 183 pellets in 10" circle @ 40 yards the first shot, 165 the 2nd shot and 152 the 3rd shot. That's a 3 shot average of 167 in the 10" @ 40 yards. Evidently this load likes a squeaky clean barrel in my gun. This will be my dedicated field gun this season
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 15, 2016, 05:54:00 PM
I took Owlhoot's advice and purchased a Carlson's .640 non-ported turkey choke for my Remington 1187 Greenleaf w/21" barrel and patterned the 3 inch 1 5/8 ounce Federal HW #7's. Put 183 pellets in 10" circle @ 40 yards the first shot, 165 the 2nd shot and 152 the 3rd shot. That's a 3 shot average of 167 in the 10" @ 40 yards. Evidently this load likes a squeaky clean barrel in my gun. This will be my dedicated field gun this season
YASSSSIIIIRRRR!!!!!! Thats great #s....I've tried them thru a Final strut .640 and got 134 ,.650 I got 135 , .655 I got 126.
I have a Remington 870 SPS and shoot the Turkey/Predator choke (non-ported, .670 I think) that came with the gun with the 3.5in. 1 7/8 load and got 153 in the 10" at 40, pretty even pattern and not too tight on the 20 and 30yd. Was fairly satisfied with em considering the POI was nearly dead on and I didn't have to change my sights. Now I am torn between Fed HW 7 or Win LB's (averaging 220 with 6 shot and around 180 with 5's on the LB's). Pattern Density with LB's or Hard hitting HW 7's,?
153 is plenty dense , room for error at 20 and 30 yards which can happen so often.
Hw 7 effectiveness.
As I have stated before, I bet I have tried 10 chokes when I was trying to get the Heviweights to pattern. I spent so much time and money on shells and chokes it was ridiculous. At first I was trying to get the #6's to shoot well. I could never get over 150 in the 10 at 40. And then along came the Heviweight #7 and a Truelock choke.
My 21" 11-87's with the 3" shell will do 170-180 all day.
My 24" Super X-2 with the 3.5 shells will do 210-220 all day
My 23" sure shot with 3.5 shells does the same 210-220 all day.
The patterns are all very even.
I got 157 in the 10". Keep in mind this is with the 20 gauge load not a 12. So I think it's pretty good.
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It was putting 268 in the 10" at 25. I didn't do a photo but I was getting about 225 at 30 yards.
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Win 1300 20 gauge(22" polished barrel), SSX .550 and 3"/1.5oz Fed HW7 load = 140/10" @ 40yds
Win 1300 12 gauge(22" polished barrel), SSX .643 and 3"/1 5/8oz Fed HW7 load = 165/10" @ 40 yds
Not the numbers others are getting but I think they'll work a little bit beyond 40yds.
Quote from: briton on March 15, 2016, 08:10:51 PM
I have a Remington 870 SPS and shoot the Turkey/Predator choke (non-ported, .670 I think) that came with the gun with the 3.5in. 1 7/8 load and got 153 in the 10" at 40, pretty even pattern and not too tight on the 20 and 30yd. Was fairly satisfied with em considering the POI was nearly dead on and I didn't have to change my sights. Now I am torn between Fed HW 7 or Win LB's (averaging 220 with 6 shot and around 180 with 5's on the LB's). Pattern Density with LB's or Hard hitting HW 7's,?
Perhaps this will sway your decision...not that you or anyone (responsible hunters)would and I'm not saying am encouraging this ....I only did this to see what kind of penetration the #7 HW would provide,@ 100yds. they went THRU 5/8" particle (pressed) board!!!! It was a brand new piece so I KNOW it was the #7s that penetrated it.I know there will prolly be some nay-sayers but thats ok cuz I have no reason to lie.
Quote from: 357MAGNOLE on March 15, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
I got 157 in the 10". Keep in mind this is with the 20 gauge load not a 12. So I think it's pretty good.
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It was putting 268 in the 10" at 25. I didn't do a photo but I was getting about 225 at 30 yards.
(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz171/357MAGNOLE/Mobile%20Uploads/B82F5908-DE9A-4DD0-AD50-6085A03EDDEE_zpsjltofgkc.jpg) (http://s825.photobucket.com/user/357MAGNOLE/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B82F5908-DE9A-4DD0-AD50-6085A03EDDEE_zpsjltofgkc.jpg.html)
Since the screw up @ Federal the 20s have been handin' it to the 12s....I spoke with Rob @ Gobbler Guns and he was tellin' me that was the case for him as well...
Quote from: Fullfan on March 15, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
As I have stated before, I bet I have tried 10 chokes when I was trying to get the Heviweights to pattern. I spent so much time and money on shells and chokes it was ridiculous. At first I was trying to get the #6's to shoot well. I could never get over 150 in the 10 at 40. And then along came the Heviweight #7 and a Truelock choke.
My 21" 11-87's with the 3" shell will do 170-180 all day.
My 24" Super X-2 with the 3.5 shells will do 210-220 all day
My 23" sure shot with 3.5 shells does the same 210-220 all day.
The patterns are all very even.
GREAT patterns....Do you have pics??? I'd love to see those,sounds like you have worked hard to get em',and certainly DESERVE em'!!!!!
:funnyturkey: All this feedback is AWESOME!!!!! Keep em' comin in fellas...and gals too!!!! :emoticon-cartoon-012:
Here is the pattern pic. Rem 870 SPS/3.5 HW 7/ Rem Turkey/Predator .670 non-ported/ 153 hits 10" @ 40 yds
I know the pattern could be tighter with a different choke but I like the range versatility this one gives me. Its got a few gaps but I think it will be more than enough to do the job.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2pyc0t0.jpg)
I will tell ya this , out of a 26" 870 supermag i got 103 in the 10" and 163 in the 20"
With a Rob Roberts .660 recommended for a 3" HW 7 load.
Right after that i shot 2 3/4" HW 7 out of a Remington factory full rated for lead or steel in the same gun and beat it by a small amount.
Many other chokes in same gun with the 3" left the RR in the dust.
In one of my guns anyhow.
Below are the results from my testing with a Remington 11-87 3.5"
40 yards 10" 20" Total
1187 Truglo TG150X .643 Federal Heavyweight #7 208 166 374
1187 Truglo TG150X .643 Federal Heavyweight #7 201 167 368
1187 Truglo TG150X .643 Federal Heavyweight #7 177 166 343
1187 Truglo TG150X .643 Federal Heavyweight #7 211 174 384
Average 199 168 367
1187 Trulock .650 Federal Heavyweight #7 204 167 371
1187 Trulock .650 Federal Heavyweight #7 185 153 338
1187 Trulock .650 Federal Heavyweight #7 181 186 367
Average 190 169 357
1187 Truglo TG150 .665 Federal Heavyweight 177 182 354
1187 Truglo TG150 .665 Federal Heavyweight 153 180 333
Average 165 181 343
1187 Rhino .660 Federal Heavyweight #7 132 188 320
1187 Rhino .660 Federal Heavyweight #7 164 166 330
1187 Rhino .660 Federal Heavyweight #7 139 183 322
Average 145 179 324
1187 I.C. .665 Federal Heavyweight #7 145 163 308
1187 I.C. .665 Federal Heavyweight #7 113 164 277
1187 I.C. .665 Federal Heavyweight #7 198 148 346
Average 152 158 310
This was from 2 years ago oddly enough I was getting decent results with a patternmaster black cloud full tube. This was at 35 yds. Like a true crack addict I wanted more. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160317/dd55dac5076b774e062211c325e8c6df.jpg)
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Quote from: briton on March 16, 2016, 07:52:09 PM
Here is the pattern pic. Rem 870 SPS/3.5 HW 7/ Rem Turkey/Predator .670 non-ported/ 153 hits 10" @ 40 yds
I know the pattern could be tighter with a different choke but I like the range versatility this one gives me. Its got a few gaps but I think it will be more than enough to do the job.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2pyc0t0.jpg)
Brother ifn you shifted the 10" circle slightly up & left that would add to an already VERY IMPRESSIVE pattern!!!!
:turkey2: THANKS everyone for the input....KEEP EM' COMIN' IN!!!!!! :drool: