I have a Rem. 11-87 with a 21'' barrel and my son has a Rem. 870 with a 21" barrel.With the SSX choke tube the 11-87 gets 100-110 pellet count and the 870 gets 130-140.I only have the one tube so I used it for both guns.My question is what other tubes have got 140 counts in the 11-87.By the way they are both Youth models if that makes any difference.Federal HWT #7. Thanks
Sumtoy 562-5, trulock HW 7 choke, Jebs .560, carlsons .575 Nothings guaranteed in patterning but those are all solid performers in every 20 ga rem I've seen with HW#7s.I use the sumtoy in my 21" 20 ga 870 and get 140s.
Beanman; I have the 11-87 remington with 21 inch barrel, 20 gauge. I have the super full remington choke that will put 140 plus in a ten inch circle with fed. hw 7's. at 40 yards. A lot of folks say use the carlson .575 extended. Or the 570 primos tight wad and a sumtoy. Don't count out your ssx. 100-110 kills turkeys too. The remington and carlson sell for about $25.00 to $30.00. I have not had good luck with ported chokes and the fed. hw 7's. There is a ton of information here on Old Gobbler about your question. Just stay tuned long enough and you will get lots of advice. Hope you both kill a big old gobbler!!!!! cluck
Where can one find the Remington super full that can be used with hevi loads? I don't think they make them anymore.
Quote from: BDeal on March 08, 2016, 08:17:46 AM
Where can one find the Remington super full that can be used with hevi loads? I don't think they make them anymore.
EBAY is a good place to start.
Quote from: BDeal on March 08, 2016, 08:17:46 AM
Where can one find the Remington super full that can be used with hevi loads? I don't think they make them anymore.
They still make the lead only version I believe, I own both and the hevi-shot approved one shoots the best of the two but the lead only with the heavyweights is nasty too. By far my favorite 20ga chokes for the little Rem 870. Check Numrich, Ebay, MackPW, Midwestgunworks, one of those usually has them.
I was told heavyweights are not to be used in the lead only version by a gun shop owner. Not sure why
Quote from: BDeal on March 08, 2016, 08:17:46 AM
Where can one find the Remington super full that can be used with hevi loads? I don't think they make them anymore.
When i contacted Remington regarding that (which you should do the same), they told me that you're fine shooting the hevi13 or Fed. Heavyweight. "lead only" refers to not shooting steel
I will have to contact them. The gun shop owner asked them specifically about hevi shot and heavyweight out of the standard super full remchoke and he was told that they do not recommend it.
You're fine shooting turkey loads, lead, hevi shot, or heavyweights, through the Remington suler full turkey chokes. The restrictions are for LARGE nontoxic and steel shot larger than #4 shot. Your shop owner is misinformed.
https://support.remington.com/General_Information/Can_I_use_my_current_Remington_shotgun%2F%2Fchoke_with_Hevi-Shot_or_Wingmaster_HD_Loads%3F
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The steel used in both is identical. This fact comes directly from a conversation I had in person with the vp of sales/marketing when the wingmaster hd loads/chokes first came out Also the constriction noted is for 12 gauge which makes your post irrelevant as the super full 20 ga choke runs .572. His exact words were "just don't run steel shot larger than #2 because it won't compress and can bulge or fracture the choke". Also. I guarantee you didn't ask that question as its been on the remmy support site FOREVER.
I never said I asked question. I'm just trying to understand if Remington doesn't recommend hevi shot with the standard lead only turkey choke. I've been told they do not but haven't contacted them yet.
I contacted Remington and they said lead only in the lead only 20 gauge super full choke. The gun shop owner I bought the gun from was told that Remington does not recommend use of Hevi or Federal Heavyweight in this choke as well. When I google it, I see some folks saying it is ok and some saying it is not so I'm really not sure. I would really like to try the Fed HW through this choke as I have already tried two others and would like better patterns.
Shoot the gun with the barrel dirty. Don't knock it until you try it. I clean mine then shoot 5-6 dove loads thru it before I pattern. Shot today and got 210 in 10" @40.
Remington youth 11-87 20ga with SSX .550. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160519/286eaef21e1af027a0341a0778772f9f.jpg)
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Shoot the gun with the barrel dirty. Don't knock it until you try it. I clean mine then shoot 5-6 dove loads thru it before I pattern. Shot today and got 210 in 10" @40.
Remington youth 11-87 20ga with SSX .550. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160519/286eaef21e1af027a0341a0778772f9f.jpg)
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Shoot the gun with the barrel dirty. Don't knock it until you try it. I clean mine then shoot 5-6 dove loads thru it before I pattern. Shot today and got 210 in 10" @40.
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Wow. I believe that is the tightest factory loaded HW 7 pattern I have ever seen. Not a particularly forgiving pattern, but impressive as can be. I wouldn't want to hunt with it without an optic. Out of curiosity, what do the patterns look like when the gun is clean?
OP, thousands of rounds of HTL turkey loads have been shot through tight turkey chokes with NO damage whatsoever (except to the heads of a few gobblers ). I shoot TSS out of both a 555 and 560 chokes, 1 5/8 loads of 9s, i also reload the Federal heavyweight 7s into an 1 5/8 3in 20ga load. No damage. Try the Trulock or Sumtoy, you won't be disappointed
I have two 1187 Compact 20s. One will do 150-155 with a Hastings .562 Lead Only choke and the other will do 145-150 with a Carlson .575. Neither gun would do much better than 100 with the SSX.
Awesome patterns! I'm about to make the switch to a 20 and have love my 11-87 12s except for the weight. Does anybody have a real world weight of a 11-87 youth with 21" vr barrel?
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Awesome patterns! I'm about to make the switch to a 20 and have love my 11-87 12s except for the weight. Does anybody have a real world weight of a 11-87 youth with 21" vr barrel?
Mine with an IC .562, FF3 w/336 mount, and a V-pod bracket (mount?) weighs about 7.5 lbs best I can tell on my non-digital scale.