Turkey hunting forum for turkey hunting tips

Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Gun Pattern Pictures => Topic started by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 12:11:15 AM

Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 12:11:15 AM
Finally got to shoot my new youth 20 gauge today. Got the scope semi dialed in, it's still just a tad high. I patterned it at 40 after about 5 shells and wasn't as good as I hoped. The first two had 130-140 in them. Saw the barrel was filthy ( I forgot how nasty those federal HW 7's are. Cleaned the barrel real good and shot one more group, and was very happy with the last group of the day. Will try to shoot some more soon it was getting dark on me today. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160228/724eb2680840590d747d96cc4af90524.jpg)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: 357MAGNOLE on February 28, 2016, 12:21:28 AM
176 is pretty damn good.

I should take my (identical setup) rig back out with perfectly clean barrel and get one good shot in and see what I have. When I did my count, I had already made about 15 shots.... Cleaned in between, but only a quick swab down the barrel and back. Not a full bristle brush with bore cleaner and then swab. 

Question... What was the Lot number on that box of HW's?

Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 12:27:54 AM
When I get a chance I'm gonna shoot some more to see if it wasn't a fluke. I have a 870 with 26" barrel that will put mid 150's at 40 yards consistently with a Hastings .566  my lot # are PHT258F7


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: 357MAGNOLE on February 28, 2016, 12:38:09 AM
Thats not the lot number, thats the model number for the shell.

Take the box, looking at the front cover.  I believe it is the tab on the left side that closes up the left end of the box.  On the inside of either that tab, or the opposite side tab there is a printed code. That is your lot number.
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: owlhoot on February 28, 2016, 12:51:36 AM
very nice pattern , it will slam them   :OGturkeyhead:
Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 10:06:11 AM

Quote from: 357MAGNOLE on February 28, 2016, 12:38:09 AM
Thats not the lot number, thats the model number for the shell.

Take the box, looking at the front cover.  I believe it is the tab on the left side that closes up the left end of the box.  On the inside of either that tab, or the opposite side tab there is a printed code. That is your lot number.
that is the only number on the left and right tab ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 10:09:31 AM
Is it one of these?(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160228/cb215f469f57a805292b1cbf2ad7ef14.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160228/df7f48e98cfd798541b8b540f4024e38.jpg)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Tom Foolery on February 28, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
I think your thumb is covering it.
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: 357MAGNOLE on February 28, 2016, 11:51:14 AM
Yep, it's the one covered by your thumb
Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 12:16:50 PM
Ohhh lol my bad it is 5U37UG329



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: TrackeySauresRex on February 28, 2016, 01:14:17 PM
Right on!  :OGturkeyhead:
Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 04:21:06 PM
Anyone think I need to adjust the scope down some more, or leave it there for aiming at the waddles?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: 357MAGNOLE on February 28, 2016, 04:31:50 PM
Depends. Is it high at 20-25? Mine at 25 is a little high and left by a hair, then at 40 a little low and right lol. So it's good for me as it sits as both shots will kill at their respective distances
Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
I need to check it at 20 again to make sure. It was a rushed job was getting dark on me   


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: 357MAGNOLE on February 28, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
Yeah I hear you.  I only had about a hour to sight mine in and try to pattern some different shells. I am going to go back and try to sight it in at 10 yards to knock out a golf ball sized chunk where I am aiming. Then walk back to 20 and make sure its still on, then 30, then 40.  I want to make sure I can hit up close, and from 40.... It wouldnt make sense for the pattern to be cork screwing in the air or anything. So maybe on one of my shots I pulled it a touch.  Does not make sense that one would be high left then next low right.

I have 4 boxes of Heavy weights. Might take a few shots to dial it back in but I don't want to waste to much.
Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 08:31:31 PM
I understand, I had 7 boxes but one got wet soaked in my vest when the garage flooded, I tried one out of it and it honestly was beat by lead 4's lol. I gave one box to a buddy who is using my other 20 gauge this year. So I got prolly 4 left also.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: 357MAGNOLE on February 28, 2016, 08:46:14 PM
Well I already shot trough two boxes with my initial sight in and choke pattern testing. I used 3 chokes, that was 6 shots alone just doing one from 25 and one from 40 for each choke.  Then I also used a few more rounds at 40 on the Carlsons .575 choke to see if the patterns where consistent.  Which they where I had a 143, 149 and 157.  I also had a 114 which was on a dirty barrel, I did not clean barrels between shots when I got that 114. 

I do want to make sure my gun is sighted in for 15-30-40 yards though. I made my targets up since my last post. I am going to make 4 shots at 15 (if that's what it takes to hit the orange sticker) then 2 shots at 20, 2 at 30, 2 at 40... Of course that's only if it takes that many shots to dial it in.  Fine tuning "Should" happen between the 30 and 40 yard shots. That is of course if I don't discover that the flitecontrol wad causes movement between each shot. I had that issue with long beards before, but it was pretty drastic.  A couple inches in each direction is not a big deal, but when your pattern shifts 8+ inches in any given direction that's a recipe for disaster.
Title: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: Cleveland48 on February 28, 2016, 10:40:22 PM
I hate setting shotgun scopes I really do. It drives me mad, but the lead sled definitely helps as far as not pulling the shot goes. I just hate looking at patterns for center then trying to move scope. So much easier with a rifle lol.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New 870 youth 20 gauge range trip.
Post by: 357MAGNOLE on February 28, 2016, 10:48:47 PM
For me the 20 gauge is really nothing for sighting in. What pisses me off is that little shift here and there and trying to figure out where the most dense portion of the pattern is lol. That is what drives me insane.

Over the last hour I have been pondering this exact issue. I decided to take a somewhat scientific but not exactly perfectly precise means of making adjustments to the scope. I am about to go total nerd on everyone in here lol.

So basically I measured my most dense portion with a round object (roughly 5") Then I used that same round object and centered it over my POA.  I then used a ruler to roughly draw intersecting lines in the middle both horizontal and vertical.  Compared the lines and took measurements accross.  Determined I needed to move my POI 1" left and 1/2" up. 

Check this out....  :TooFunny: I am probably looking like a damn fool doing this.
(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz171/357MAGNOLE/Mobile%20Uploads/7940D5F6-E77C-4321-99CD-6E8C29CCA95C_zpsi99ppa82.jpg) (http://s825.photobucket.com/user/357MAGNOLE/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7940D5F6-E77C-4321-99CD-6E8C29CCA95C_zpsi99ppa82.jpg.html)