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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Lon0121 on March 29, 2011, 02:01:27 PM

Title: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: Lon0121 on March 29, 2011, 02:01:27 PM
got an undertaker .665 choke for the mossberg 500, also used the carlsons dead coyote choke in .660. target was 40 yards!

remington no 5 shot nitro loads 3 inwere used.

first up was carlsons choke and nitro no 5's at 40 yards

http://img857.imageshack.us/i/002snd.jpg/

then undertaker choke and no 5's at 40

http://img41.imageshack.us/i/001gfh.jpg/

what do you think?
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: shootumindaface on March 29, 2011, 02:04:34 PM
IS your barrel squeaky clean.. Those patterns are wide open.. There is no core density what soever.
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: Lon0121 on March 29, 2011, 02:08:55 PM
cleaned after every shot!!!  no matter what load i get i cant get a core density with theese 2 chokes!

will it be good to 40?
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: SumToy on March 29, 2011, 02:15:37 PM
Feel me in on the barrel.  Does it have ports. Has any other work been done to it. One more thing is to check the bolt that holds it on. I have saw guns do wild things when it is lose just a small amount. You can get it to shoot just got to find what it wants.   
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: sugarray on March 29, 2011, 02:27:38 PM
I would not shoot either of those combinations.  I counted 50 pellets in the first pattern.  I just don't know if you will get the patterns you are looking for using those shells.  I have not read 1 good word about them here.  You might get some improvement with #6 shot.  Have you tried the Win HV?
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: Jbird22 on March 29, 2011, 02:34:43 PM
Go to Wal Mart and pick up some Win Supreme HV's and give 'em a try. Also, you may want to try and find a Star Dot choke for that Mossy. A lot of guys swear by that choke when paired with that gun.
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: Lon0121 on March 29, 2011, 02:38:13 PM
the winchester hv no 6 patterned by far worse than this! a lot worse!  no ports in barrel its 28 inches and bolts are tight on it!  heres a turkey vital head shot on an 11 by 11 in paper at 35 yards using remington no 5 nitros and an undertaker choke!~  103 hits total

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Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: Jbird22 on March 29, 2011, 02:44:07 PM
I would try a diff choke personally. Kick's does well with lead for me but I have a Remington 870.
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: SR1 on March 29, 2011, 03:04:55 PM
I never had any good patterns in my 500 unless I shot the Winchester high velocity#5's or my own hand loads with copper 7 1/2's. I only used a factory full with it though but then again that was 20 years ago before we had all these specialty tubes. That gun and load that I used back then wasnt a 40-50 yard gun/load combo. I didnt like to shoot past 30 yards if I could help it. Things have changed alot since then though and I wouldnt be affraid to try some Nitro's out of it.
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: Lon0121 on March 29, 2011, 03:10:11 PM
well....35 yards i have 103 pellets spread ok at best in a 11 by 11 box!   i just wont go past 35!  besides most turkey are killed closer!  maybe my gun isnt meant to be a plinker in distance!

my carlsons will shoot 4 buck out to 50 yards with a good pattern in the 500 though!  but shoots turkey like slug crap!
Title: Re: 2 chokes/1 patterns same shot load
Post by: TrkyHntr on March 29, 2011, 08:44:23 PM
I would ditch the Remington loads and go with Winchester, if you are going to stick with lead. Winchester is way ahead of Remington in pattern performance with lead, IME.




Shane