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General Discussion => Turkey Hunting Tips ,Strategies & Methods => Topic started by: turkey_slayer on March 27, 2011, 10:04:57 AM

Title: Hey shootum
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 27, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
Remember the thread "do turkeys like thick stuff"?  I went scouting yesterday and remembered to take a pic.  Is this what you ran into in kansas?  The bark and limbs are covered in these things.  The needles are about 3 inches long are sharp and tough.  This use to be all pasture then these things took over.  They have red berries in the fall that turkey and bear love.  Anyone know what these are really called?  Heard em called a lot of 4 letter words but I dont think they were the proper name  :goofball:  These are crappy cell phone pics.

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nate121080/Thorns2.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nate121080/Thorns.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: bird on March 27, 2011, 10:12:11 AM
Honeylocust
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 27, 2011, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: bird on March 27, 2011, 10:12:11 AM
Honeylocust

Honey locust have pods where these dont.  The thorns remind you of a locust though.
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: shootumindaface on March 27, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
LOL That was soo funny in KS.. The wind was blowing a steady 35 with gusts 50mph.. I stopped let out a call and one of them branches blew in the wind, stuck through my hat, and about a 1/4 into my forehead..

Sal fell down laughing as I was pulling that needle out of my head and blood rushed down my forehead..
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: redleg06 on March 27, 2011, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: shootumindaface on March 27, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
LOL That was soo funny in KS.. The wind was blowing a steady 35 with gusts 50mph.. I stopped let out a call and one of them branches blew in the wind, stuck through my hat, and about a 1/4 into my forehead..

Sal fell down laughing as I was pulling that needle out of my head and blood rushed down my forehead..

No matter how tough you think a pair of boots are, its still best to step around honey locust bushes cause they CAN penetrate some rubber boots without problem....ask me how I know :bike2:
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 27, 2011, 01:03:11 PM
After some research I think these are called Hawthorns.  It has the thorns and red berries like what I have a pic of.  These are more like a bush than a tree and the honey locust can get fairly tall where as the Hawthorns are more of a big bush like these.  I had a guy tell me another name for them but I cant remember what it was.  Something like autumn olive?
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: shootumindaface on March 27, 2011, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: turkey_slayer on March 27, 2011, 01:03:11 PM
After some research I think these are called Hawthorns.  It has the thorns and red berries like what I have a pic of.  These are more like a bush than a tree and the honey locust can get fairly tall where as the Hawthorns are more of a big bush like these.  I had a guy tell me another name for them but I cant remember what it was.  Something like autumn olive?
we have autumn olive and they have thorns, but nothing like what I ran to in KS.
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: Nimrodmar10 on March 27, 2011, 03:12:44 PM
If a grizzly was after me and the only tree I had to climb was a Honey Locust, I'd fight the grizz. :character0029:

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Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: lmbhngr on March 27, 2011, 04:19:52 PM
Thornapple???
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 27, 2011, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: lmbhngr on March 27, 2011, 04:19:52 PM
Thornapple???

From what I read, thornapple and hawthorn were both the same. I could be wrong again though  ;D The hawthorn is also an invasive species.  This spot is the only place in Va I have seen them and this particular patch is about a mile long and I would say about 100 yards wide.  This was a field at one time and grass still grows under it with a few small (20 yards x 20yards) open spots.  I guess thats why they still stay in it in the spring since the berries are long gone by then.
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 27, 2011, 04:49:45 PM
Quote from: Nimrodmar10 on March 27, 2011, 03:12:44 PM
If a grizzly was after me and the only tree I had to climb was a Honey Locust, I'd fight the grizz. :character0029:

You got that right!  I only know of 1 honey locust around here and the deer will tear up the pods after it frosts on them
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: Nimrodmar10 on March 27, 2011, 06:59:55 PM
When we were kids we'd take the pods and tear them open and lick the sap out of them. It tastel like molasses or honey. Thus the name Honey Locus. Yeah, we're country and proud of it.  :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: PANYHunter on March 27, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
Quote from: turkey_slayer on March 27, 2011, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: lmbhngr on March 27, 2011, 04:19:52 PM
Thornapple???

From what I read, thornapple and hawthorn were both the same. I could be wrong again though  ;D The hawthorn is also an invasive species.  This spot is the only place in Va I have seen them and this particular patch is about a mile long and I would say about 100 yards wide.  This was a field at one time and grass still grows under it with a few small (20 yards x 20yards) open spots.  I guess thats why they still stay in it in the spring since the berries are long gone by then.

That's what it looks like to me.  We have them up here too and they are no fun.  We always send the new guy through them on deer drives
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: OLE RASPY on March 27, 2011, 07:17:33 PM
I believe your right hawthorn.From what i can tell and u describing.
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: TrackeySauresRex on March 27, 2011, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: lmbhngr on March 27, 2011, 04:19:52 PM
Thornapple???
That was my guess
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: carp84 on March 28, 2011, 08:45:47 AM
Hawthorn
Title: Re: Hey shootum
Post by: rdfirenut on April 01, 2011, 06:33:38 PM
turkey_slayer,
 
 right on the money: hawthorn and invasive.
Where in VA are you?
I'm in the middle of the Shenandoah Valley.
We've got them everywhere!!!
They are commonly found around log landings, edges
of wildlife clearings, and old grown-up pasture.
I work on National Forest land those things are a PAIN to deal with.
We had 2 projects in the Hidden Valley area in Bath County
that everyday my guys came out of the woods bleeding like stuck pigs.

Several years back while rabbit hunting, my buddy shot a rabbit while it was in the
bushes. It was kind of warm and I was the only one with a brush coat on.
As I backed into a rats nest of those things to get the rabbit, I got stuck
in the point of my elbow. I never could get the broken tip out. After my elbow
swelled up to a little bigger than a golf ball hanging off the point and 2 1/2 months later and very painful;
it started getting better. I avoid them at all cost now.
My elbow hurts just typing this, haha.

For HIS service,

  R.D.