some toy what makes you think paper targets are two dimensional Turkey Hunter
What exactly is a 1,2,3 or 4 dimensional object jeb???
Quote from: jebs chokes on March 24, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
some toy what makes you think paper targets are two dimensional Turkey Hunter
Because they are!! height by width.
First dimension is square bound by one dim'''''' lines. Second dim'''''' is cube 2 dim''''' area. Third dim'''' Tessera ct is 3 dim'''' Forth dim'''' I dint relay know but I think it is space time. turkey hunter
Jeb, I just looked at your posts.. Your first 7 are blatant product pushing of your chokes.. You obviously are new to forums and forum etiquette but this is not appreciated.. Your last four posts are asking Sum Toy about 2 dimension vs 3 dimension on a turkey target.. I do not know if you have a personal vendetta against Sumtoy or you think the choke market on here is cutt throat or what..
But I will assure you that product pushing and vendettas will turn away any potential customers you potentially see in this board.. If your chokes are as great as you claim members will eventually purchase them and credible members are the greatest salesman you can have on this board.
Quote from: shootumindaface on March 25, 2011, 12:04:55 AM
Jeb, I just looked at your posts.. Your first 7 are blatant product pushing of your chokes.. You obviously are new to forums and forum etiquette but this is not appreciated.. Your last four posts are asking Sum Toy about 2 dimension vs 3 dimension on a turkey target.. I do not know if you have a personal vendetta against Sumtoy or you think the choke market on here is cutt throat or what..
But I will assure you that product pushing and vendettas will turn away any potential customers you potentially see in this board.. If your chokes are as great as you claim members will eventually purchase them and credible members are the greatest salesman you can have on this board.
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Don't be so pushy. Breathe a little and live. :icon_thumright:
:TooFunny: I did not know they were 150 dollars a piece..
I would sell and buy new a barrel before I would spend that on a choke tube with the consistent results available with known chokes.
thanks for the info men .turkey hunter
WOW 150 beans for a choke no thanks.............
Quote from: jebs chokes on March 25, 2011, 12:23:01 AM
thanks for the info men .turkey hunter
Bud I was nice as I can be.. If you choose to tuck tail and take your ball and go home so be it.. But I would encourage you to put up some pattern pics, allow them to get into the hands of members let them decide and if they are as good as you claim, they will sell themselves.
Send OG 5 or six chokes for the bingo or maybe take a poll for the 5 or 6 people to test your chokes.
I can promise you that more people will be inclined to come check out your product if you demonstrate a little more professionalism in your approach to how you deal with others....including your competitors.
If you want to see what Im talking about and how to better conduct yourself, go check out the turkey call forum and watch how respectful those guys treat one another and avoid blatant product pushing as much as possible....
One of my favorite quotes of all time : " If we are strong, our strength will speak for itself but if we are weak our words will not help us. " - JFK
Moral to the story being- no one is going to buy one of your choke because you push it on them and talk about how great it is without proof and Im certainly not going to buy because you belittle your competitors. Give a reasonable price for your product and SHOW us that they can consistently produce and you might have some success because people on this forum are glad to spread the word for you if you have a superior product....the reverse is also true.
Quote from: jebs chokes on March 24, 2011, 11:47:18 PM
First dimension is square bound by one dim'''''' lines. Second dim'''''' is cube 2 dim''''' area. Third dim'''' Tessera ct is 3 dim'''' Forth dim'''' I dint relay know but I think it is space time. turkey hunter
AND...talking over a simple country boy's head is a big no-no also.Your quantum physics don't mean nothing to me..But I do understand holes in paper.
Quote from: FANMAN on March 25, 2011, 08:37:45 AM
Quote from: jebs chokes on March 24, 2011, 11:47:18 PM
First dimension is square bound by one dim'''''' lines. Second dim'''''' is cube 2 dim''''' area. Third dim'''' Tessera ct is 3 dim'''' Forth dim'''' I dint relay know but I think it is space time. turkey hunter
AND...talking over a simple country boy's head is a big no-no also.Your quantum physics don't mean nothing to me..But I do understand holes in paper.
I can talk dimesions with the best of them, I have every math class offered in undergrad studies under my belt --- but FANMAN is correct. Do not go there - it is insulting and confusing to people who don't know what the hell you are talking about! I agree your chokes are high, but I intend to try one (and a SumToy) before next season unless you keep up the road you are on! I think you can have a good thing going on if you could possibly get prostaffers from some of the guys here who are always testing loads/chokes. It would put you name out there with third part information!
Daman
Here's another couple ideas for Jeb's Chokes.
#1. Whether you're a backwoods hillbilly, or a college educated engineer, you owe it to your company to put your best face forward. This means proper spelling, grammar and punctuation. If you're too lazy, or inept to spell someone's name correctly, or punctuate the sentence. Will you show the same lack of detail in your $150 chokes?
#2. Most forum type websites that I visit are supported by sponsorships/ advertisements from industry partners. This could be a good way to educate the population about your product and support and outstanding website in the process.
#3. DO NOT bash the competition. If you truly feel your product is superior than a product produced by another company , PROVE IT!!! Don't bash their choke, or the person who makes it. The quickest way to turn off potential customers is to keep doing exactly what you're dong. Your chokes might be the best thing since sliced bread, but your prices and attitude will likely push them to your competitors.
#4. At $150 per choke, you're going to have a very hard time getting Turkey hunters to part with that much cash. Dumping $70+ on an Indian Creek or Pure Gold choke is hard enough, but it's even harder to dump twice that amount for an unproven choke from a brand new company. Indian Creek and Pure Gold are established companies that stand behind their products with full warranties. Jeb's is a new company with no track record. While this isn't necessarily a bad thing since all companies have to start from ground up at some point, you also need to realize that commanding a premium price for an unproven product is going to be a VERY tough sell.
Besides sponsorship, the best way to get chokes in customers hands is to donate a few chokes, or at least offer certificates for a certain dollar, or percentage amount off.
I wish you the best of luck Jeb's Chokes, I hope you heed the advice given by this forum and can turn your fledgling business into a success.
Where did he go??
$150.00 for a choke :anim_25:
Quote from: Fullfan on March 25, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Where did he go??
$150.00 for a choke :anim_25:
Correction: $150 for a bright shiney choke, perfect for blind gobblers! :goofball:
I enquired about the chokes a couple of weeks ago and there only offered in a bright stainless finish?
Quote from: va longbeard on March 25, 2011, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: Fullfan on March 25, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Where did he go??
$150.00 for a choke :anim_25:
Correction: $150 for a bright shiney choke, perfect for blind gobblers! :goofball:
I enquired about the chokes a couple of weeks ago and there only offered in a bright stainless finish?
Got a web Address?
Quote from: Mag10 on March 25, 2011, 07:12:26 PM
Quote from: va longbeard on March 25, 2011, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: Fullfan on March 25, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Where did he go??
$150.00 for a choke :anim_25:
Correction: $150 for a bright shiney choke, perfect for blind gobblers! :goofball:
I enquired about the chokes a couple of weeks ago and there only offered in a bright stainless finish?
Got a web Address?
No web address but they will answer PMs.
To be serious, $150 for a choke is a little steep but I wish them all the best.
I don't know how a new company can charge so much for a choke with no track record. If Im going to spend $150 on a choke it better put 300 in a 10" circle at 40 yards with lead #4s
I'm just a old country boy an was raised to treat people the way u want to be treated that turned me off earlier. He pm me a few times an was nice, a few weeks ago, an told me how much there chokes were. I didn't down them at all but I knew it was very pricey. the only thing I told him was if the chokes that he sells would put considerable more than 351 in a 10in. circle like the choke I have I would really consider it. I even sent a pic. to prove it haven't heard a word seance. The same pics. all of you'all have seen... You know I've been on here for a little while now, I read alot before I posted anything you have to earn TRUST an RESPECK... I hope I have.....
I truly don't mean any harm by this statement, so I would suggest not to take it as such. But with that being said, it has always seemed to me that a company who has to incessantly plug their product at every opportunity and cut down their competition usually has very little to offer in the first place. When the only positive reviews on a product are the ones written by the owner or staff of the company that makes it.....well that tends to make people doubtful about purchasing from that company. At least it does with me. Don't get me wrong, I've never seen nor run a shell through a jeb's choke tube. Who knows, it could take the choke tube market by storm by this time next year. However, with the way you are pursuing potential sales, that is doubtful at this point. As others have said, show me the proof. Pattern pics, shot with different shotguns and premium loads, throwing excellent patterns. THAT will get customers attention ten times as fast as a post about how great they are, how much better they are than the competition, etc. 150 bucks is steep for a choke tube. However, show me proof that it will blow away the Indian Creek currently in my shotgun, and I might be a future customer. I'm sure others here would agree with me.
A $150 a choke? And I thought that Rhino was proud of their chokes. :lol: Is the outside plated in 24K gold? Good luck at getting any takers on that. Before you even go there on that type of price you better be able to justify the cost against your competition. We want to be educated to why your chokes are worth that. I'm listening.
I agree $150 is way to high and have and I have told them that.
They have come down to $120, but that's still to high. I hope and believe
they will bring the pricing to a more competitive level, especially if they
want to be successful.
I hate that Jebs chokes has through his inexperience on these forums
stepped on some toes. I don't think he meant to offend anyone.
With all that said They are making a good choke. Wheather they are
a better choke remains to be seen.
I wish them well.
Dewey
Quote from: Wolfpack on March 26, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
I agree $150 is way to high and have and I have told them that.
They have come down to $120, but that's still to high. I hope and believe
they will bring the pricing to a more competitive level, especially if they
want to be successful.
I hate that Jebs chokes has through his inexperience on these forums
stepped on some toes. I don't think he meant to offend anyone.
With all that said They are making a good choke. Wheather they are
a better choke remains to be seen.
I wish them well.
Dewey
I see that you are from Hazelhurst ,Ga. also. Do you have a picyure of one?
I posted a picture on this thread.
Dewey
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,4242.msg51944.html#msg51944
Last week I shot some 3" #6's and some blends through a .665 choke
with good results through my 870 Tactical with a 23" barrel. I do have a
box of 3 1/2 blends, but haven't had time to try them yet.
With turkey season in my spare time is at a premium, but I will get some
pictures up and make some time to shoot the 3 1/2 blends when I can.
Headed for the woods now.
Dewey
Quote from: Wolfpack on March 26, 2011, 09:09:52 PM
I posted a picture on this thread.
Dewey
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,4242.msg51944.html#msg51944
That looks like a pattern. I asked for a picture of the actual choke.
scroll down a little and it is there. I missed it first time as well.
Quote from: RAJ on March 27, 2011, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: Wolfpack on March 26, 2011, 09:09:52 PM
I posted a picture on this thread.
Dewey
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,4242.msg51944.html#msg51944
That looks like a pattern. I asked for a picture of the actual choke.
So demanding hahahaha
Quote from: mcgruff1533 on March 25, 2011, 10:30:43 AM
Here's another couple ideas for Jeb's Chokes.
#1. Whether you're a backwoods hillbilly, or a college educated engineer, you owe it to your company to put your best face forward. This means proper spelling, grammar and punctuation. If you're too lazy, or inept to spell someone's name correctly, or punctuate the sentence. Will you show the same lack of detail in your $150 chokes?
:icon_thumright: I decided not to try them just because of the spelling and grammar in the posts, but 150 bucks has me wondering about them to.
Quote from: hunttherut on March 27, 2011, 09:46:42 AM
scroll down a little and it is there. I missed it first time as well.
Thanks for the heads up.I just followed his directions and did not know to scroll down several posts later. I had never seen a $150 choke before and was curious.
I wasn't thinking it was so demanding since everybody wants to see everyones target patterns. I guess by next year we will hav eto show the shot pellets too!
i never recieved a pm reply so i went with pg :you_rock:
jebschoke.homestead.com
Still under construction, but please have look.
Thanks
I am new to old gobbler. However, I do happen to know a lot about JEBS CHOKES " HEADHUNTER" . I think it is a great choke myself . In our neck of the woods the best choke we had around was the goblin thunder until the Headhunter surfaced . So my question is hands down what is the best and most proven choke on the market. Which choke company has the choke to beat to say that u have the best choke on the market ?
Quote from: slickyboyboo on March 30, 2011, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: REDMAN on March 30, 2011, 04:09:31 PM
I am new to old gobbler. However, I do happen to know a lot about JEBS CHOKES " HEADHUNTER" . I think it is a great choke myself . In our neck of the woods the best choke we had around was the goblin thunder until the Headhunter surfaced . So my question is hands down what is the best and most proven choke on the market. Which choke company has the choke to beat to say that u have the best choke on the market ?
I'm not knocking JEBs chokes, but all I have seen here is alot of talk about them. To sell them you need proof in pics of patterns, and a bunch of them. Not just Remington 870s and 1187s, but all the other manufacturers also.
Barry's right. No one buys a choke on heresay. Picture proof is needed.
Quote from: chatterbox on March 30, 2011, 04:34:54 PM
Quote from: slickyboyboo on March 30, 2011, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: REDMAN on March 30, 2011, 04:09:31 PM
I am new to old gobbler. However, I do happen to know a lot about JEBS CHOKES " HEADHUNTER" . I think it is a great choke myself . In our neck of the woods the best choke we had around was the goblin thunder until the Headhunter surfaced . So my question is hands down what is the best and most proven choke on the market. Which choke company has the choke to beat to say that u have the best choke on the market ?
I'm not knocking JEBs chokes, but all I have seen here is alot of talk about them. To sell them you need proof in pics of patterns, and a bunch of them. Not just Remington 870s and 1187s, but all the other manufacturers also.
Barry's right. No one buys a choke on heresay. Picture proof is needed.
ditto!
The pictures on your website are not all that impressive, looks to be the same as may other chokes. Many guys on here are getting better results and I would take down that statement about 25 - 100% better patterns.
So with the H13 3" 2oz #6s you got 200 in a 10" circle and that makes your choke worth $120-$150 dollars?
I watched my friend with the same setup (870 23" barrel) get those numbers from a Indian Creek at $70.
I wish you guys luck but I won't be buying your stock just yet.