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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: blueridgegobbler on March 23, 2015, 07:20:34 PM

Title: Longbeard problem
Post by: blueridgegobbler on March 23, 2015, 07:20:34 PM
Did some shooting today and had something happen that puzzles me. 3 inch #5 LB at 40 yard knocked a hole through the pattern board about 1 inch in diameter. It appeared that some of the shot clumped together, has anybody else had this problem. The # 6 did phenomenal 204 in the 10.
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: owlhoot on March 23, 2015, 07:23:13 PM
Count your 20"circle for pellet count
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: Dr Juice on March 23, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
Wow. I have suspected that could be an issue. What gun and choke combination are you using?
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: Longshanks on March 23, 2015, 07:40:20 PM
I did allot of testing with LB 5's and came up with some strange results. Patterns cut in half, mis-shaped patterns, hour glass patterns, softball to 12-15" patterns at 15-20yds.  The only variation I have seen with the LB 6's was different diameter patterns at close range. Killed a turkey last year with the LB 6's and it looked like I shot him with a slug. Don't know if that has to do with the barrel getting dirty shooting a number of rounds or what. The heck of it is that if I hadn't done allot of shooting with the shells I wouldn't have known. Original patterns were awesome.
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: blueridgegobbler on March 23, 2015, 09:01:18 PM
Remington 870 21inch barrel with 650 hastings gonna try 28 inch barrel this weekend
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: Gobble! on March 23, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
I have seen wads do that at 20 yards but not 40, anythings possible I guess.
Title: Longbeard problem
Post by: BowBendr on March 23, 2015, 11:58:48 PM
I have seen vertical stringing with the 5's, some patterns shaped like an oblong hourglass.
The oddest thing I've seen is a shot I took one day with the 4's, the wad only went about 10 yds and went 90 degrees off to the right about 25 feet. The pattern was like a softball at 40 and was about 15" low/right...



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Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: Gooserbat on March 24, 2015, 12:03:48 AM
One failure on paper, now Longbeards are junk and it's time to completely redesign the entire shell....

No seriously its possible it didn't fragment, or could have been a wad issue.  Many variables.
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: K9Doc on March 24, 2015, 12:35:15 AM
I bought a box of Fiocchi Turkey loads
A few years back just cause they were cheap
And I wanted to try them.
40 yards they Shot 2 slug holes into the paper and out the
Back of the 1/4" plywood!!!
Boxed them up, sent back to Fio with a letter.
They never responded.
Huh
Title: Re: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 24, 2015, 12:39:54 AM
Quote from: K9Doc on March 24, 2015, 12:35:15 AM
I bought a box of Fiocchi Turkey loads
A few years back just cause they were cheap
And I wanted to try them.
40 yards they Shot 2 slug holes into the paper and out the
Back of the 1/4" plywood!!!
Boxed them up, sent back to Fio with a letter.
They never responded.
Huh
But you just broke the record for the tightest 10 at 40 and what most are trying to achieve :D
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: nyhunter on March 24, 2015, 05:28:11 AM
I'd try a little more open choke with 5's. There have been a few reporting's of weird shaped patterns with the larger shot and tight choke's.


Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: blueridgegobbler on March 24, 2015, 06:45:57 AM
Nobody mentioned changing the wad simply asked a question the 6s shot great I got a .660 rhino to try the 5s thru.
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: owlhoot on March 24, 2015, 10:55:47 AM
The resin is not breaking up consistently ?
Why would 6 and 4 be any different ?
Title: Longbeard problem
Post by: BowBendr on March 24, 2015, 12:48:38 PM

Quote from: nyhunter on March 24, 2015, 05:28:11 AM
I'd try a little more open choke with 5's. There have been a few reporting's of weird shaped patterns with the larger shot and tight choke's.
I'd agree with that.
In the gun I did my shooting with, the LB's really didn't need to be choked much anyway, I settled on a non-ported factory .695
Extended turkey chokes were too much for them.



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Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: Chilly on March 25, 2015, 07:50:15 AM
Here is what it does to a turkey when this happens.  (not trying to hi-jack a thread just showing an experience I had with this last season)  25 yards

Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: taylorjones20 on March 25, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
Quote from: Chilly on March 25, 2015, 07:50:15 AM
Here is what it does to a turkey when this happens.  (not trying to hi-jack a thread just showing an experience I had with this last season)  25 yards

That happens at 25 yards when they are shooting correctly. 
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: bowbird87 on March 25, 2015, 06:52:24 PM
I would say it was the wad. I had the wad go through paper patterning steel shot at 40 yards with a light mod choke and Rio #3s.
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: Snoodsniper on March 25, 2015, 08:27:55 PM
Quote from: Chilly on March 25, 2015, 07:50:15 AM
Here is what it does to a turkey when this happens.  (not trying to hi-jack a thread just showing an experience I had with this last season)  25 yards
That's what should happen at 25yds.
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: Chilly on March 25, 2015, 08:29:14 PM
I just know there was a slug hole through the birds neck.  I just assumed the resin never shattered.
Title: Re: Longbeard problem
Post by: Longshanks on March 25, 2015, 08:37:53 PM
Quote from: Chilly on March 25, 2015, 08:29:14 PM
I just know there was a slug hole through the birds neck.  I just assumed the resin never shattered.

I killed one last year and put a hole like that right above the beard. Closer than 25 yds though. Killing turkey's with Lb's ,,the bottom line is allot of times your shooting a rifle inside 25 yds.