I've never shot this shell and don't really plan on it bc I like my setup with hevi 7s. But I was wondering the reason behind not shooting them with a ported choke. If that's even true I don't know but I do know I've heard a lot of negative things about the flight control wad. Thanks for any input.
The idea behind the Flight Control Wad was to make a shell that could be used with factory choke tubes. The wad is designed to stay with the shot where most of today turkey chokes, containing ports and wad stripping properties, are designed to strip the wad from the shot which forces the shells to do what they were not intended for. That is what causes all the bad patterns and bad reviews you hear. When shot with the right choke they can produce very effective patterns. Not high pellet counts but effective patterns none the less due to the shot density, 15g/cc compared to hevis 12g/cc.
Good explanation Gobble! Thanks. I may try some out after all in my mossberg choke
TruLock and Rob Roberts also make chokes designed for the Ferderal shells.
I and some of my friends shoot them and the Rob Roberts, Trulock, and Wrights chokes are the ticket with these shells. Also Sumtoy can put together a choke that will preform as well and they and Trulock have got it down for the HW #7 in a 20 ga.
gooser what numbers are u gettting with that choke im shooting a ssx in youth 20 with fed heavy 7s
I don't shoot a 20 however I've talked to those who do and get told of 120-140 patterns.
Federal HW #5 is My main load for long range Gobblers.
how far was that shot sako
Unless it was 60 yards it's too thin a pattern
For my taste.
IMO, anytime, at any range, that you have a pattern which exhibits "golf ball" size holes in the core, you have a potential crippling, rather than killing, pattern. I too, wouldn't hunt with that choke/load combination.
Yea i tried the HW #5s in 3.5 and just couldnt get a good hunting pattern. Then i looked @ a chart in the federal catalog and realized the 3.5 #5 HW load only had like 230 pellets. Thats about the same pellet count of a 20ga 3" #5 lead turkey load.IMO, # 5 HW are too much for a gobbler and more usefull as a goose load. IMO, HW #7 is the ticket in all gauges, if you can get them to pattern well for you.
Quote from: Dirt nap on March 05, 2015, 06:06:58 AM
how far was that shot sako
Hi dirt nap, over the past 5 years I have patterned over 40 Hevi 13 & Fed HW loads in 3 guns & 7 chokes. All have been patterned at 30, 50 & 70 Yds.
I have several Fed HW #5 50 yd patterns with 75% - 85% in a 20" Circle.
Not that I would ever shoot at a Gobbler that far. <g>
I wouldnt shoot HW through an indian creek. It took about 4 shots through the Indian Creek i had with federal HW #5s to wreck it. It didnt swell but it really wrecked the wad stoppers on the inside of the choke. This was probably 5 yrs ago and they gladly replaced my choke but shortly thereafter they started warning against using any FCW ammo. So they arent warrantied with those shells nowadays.
Quote from: Gobble! on February 28, 2015, 11:16:38 PM
The idea behind the Flight Control Wad was to make a shell that could be used with factory choke tubes. The wad is designed to stay with the shot where most of today turkey chokes, containing ports and wad stripping properties, are designed to strip the wad from the shot which forces the shells to do what they were not intended for. That is what causes all the bad patterns and bad reviews you hear. When shot with the right choke they can produce very effective patterns. Not high pellet counts but effective patterns none the less due to the shot density, 15g/cc compared to hevis 12g/cc.
Exactly why your shouldn't use an IC
Quote from: LARRYHAYNES on March 06, 2015, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: Gobble! on February 28, 2015, 11:16:38 PM
The idea behind the Flight Control Wad was to make a shell that could be used with factory choke tubes. The wad is designed to stay with the shot where most of today turkey chokes, containing ports and wad stripping properties, are designed to strip the wad from the shot which forces the shells to do what they were not intended for. That is what causes all the bad patterns and bad reviews you hear. When shot with the right choke they can produce very effective patterns. Not high pellet counts but effective patterns none the less due to the shot density, 15g/cc compared to hevis 12g/cc.
Exactly why your shouldn't use an IC
IC is a great choke and what I use but I would never use it with the Federal Flight Control wad shells.
What about fed HW in a pure gold choke?
Quote from: Eview326 on March 06, 2015, 04:35:06 PM
What about fed HW in a pure gold choke?
PureGold makes a specific choke for that shell. Tempest I believe it's called.