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Title: Please Help me Identify the Subspecies
Post by: ChocolateHeads on February 27, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Please Help me Identify the Subspecies
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Post by: ChocolateHeads on February 27, 2015, 01:49:33 PM
Photo 2
Title: Re: Please Help me Identify the Subspecies
Post by: Rio Fan on February 27, 2015, 02:45:42 PM
I'll say it's a Merriams, but I could be wrong.
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Post by: Gamblinman on February 27, 2015, 02:48:01 PM
Merriams, or a Hybird. Without knowing where the bird was harvested, it would be just a guess.

Gman
Title: Re: Please Help me Identify the Subspecies
Post by: jblackburn on February 27, 2015, 03:16:25 PM
Looks Merriams, but could be Rio hybrid.  Use this to tel by where it was killed:

http://www.nwtf.org/for_hunters/all_about_turkeys.html
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Post by: Blong on February 27, 2015, 03:31:40 PM
Don't know, I have killed Easters with the light tips also
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Post by: mgm1955 on February 27, 2015, 03:55:42 PM
Looks like a Merriam.
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Post by: GobbleNut on February 27, 2015, 04:51:53 PM
I agree that, from what can be seen in the pictures, it looks like a Merriams.  The logical choices are Merriams, Rio, or hybrid of those,...unless you killed a Goulds in Mexico or southeastern Arizona. Tell us where you killed it and we might be able to narrow it down a bit for you. 
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Post by: hookedspur on February 27, 2015, 07:28:04 PM
I think its a Rio or Rio X Merriam Hybrid because a pure Merriam white tips are more straight
across the bottom not as rounded as the Rio as in this picture.
Title: Please Help me Identify the Subspecies
Post by: Gumby on February 27, 2015, 07:49:46 PM
Rio
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Post by: Gamblinman on February 27, 2015, 08:43:23 PM
Its a jake, so it doesn't have his adult feathers in yet.
Title: Re: Please Help me Identify the Subspecies
Post by: ChocolateHeads on February 28, 2015, 12:50:20 AM
This jake was taken in Morgan Hill, CA (Santa Clara County). According to the NWTF map this is rio country but is sure doesn't look like a rio to me.
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Post by: GobbleNut on February 28, 2015, 09:18:47 AM
Look at the iridescence of the feathers, especially the iridescent band just below the tips of the feathers on the rump right below the fan.  If that iridescence has a gold/copper/brass look about it when looked at in direct sunlight, then the bird is either a Rio or a Rio hybrid.  Pure Merriams do not have any of that goldish iridescence. 
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Post by: RutnNStrutn on February 28, 2015, 08:54:08 PM
Looks like a Rio, or a hybrid to me. Where was it killed?
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Post by: ChocolateHeads on March 04, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
This jake was taken in Morgan Hill, CA (Santa Clara County)
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Post by: Gamblinman on March 04, 2015, 05:53:31 PM
Rio, based on where it was harvested. I have harvested white to cream Rio's in both OK and TX.

Gman