I was walking through a field the dnr burned looking for deer antler sheds and came across multiple bird nests, I am wondering if these are turkey eggs?
I believe turkey eggs are speckled. I can't tell if those are or not. Regardless it seems pretty ignorant to burn during nesting season.
how big are they?
They look like turkey to me. I would make a call to dnr. Maybe they need to be award of nesting season.
About the size of a chicken egg. I have only seen turkey eggs once and I forget what they look like. The next pic I'm going to post the egg was speckled even though its hard to tell from the picture an maybe a tad bigger than a chicken egg. I came across about 6-7 different nests most were crushed and I thought the same thing about it being pretty ignorant. Kind of made me mad seeing all of them.
Yes they are Turkey eggs & that picture just gave me an upset stomach. What a shame.
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What state is this?Why the he'll would they do soething like this during a nesting season?Sound like the DNR there need a punch right in the forehead
Wisconsin
This does not just hurt turkeys but other birds that are nesting and fawns that are days/weeks old.
That seems pretty ignorant. I would definitely make a call.
Quote from: Terry on June 03, 2014, 07:01:29 PM
That seems pretty ignorant. I would definitely make a call.
Yes sir :agreed:
Im sick to my stomach. The sad part is that if these morons burned one field who knows how many more they do it to. Maybe need to send some pics to the NWTF maybe they could enlighten someone.
Uneducated bout nesting turkeys and fawn dropping!!!
Makes no sense at all!!
Make calls to dnr and nwtf with pics sent via email
My 2 cents!!!
Turkey eggs...yes. Stupid?? That doesn't even cover it! There are measures to be taken with control burns and apparently some genius could care less. What county?
If it makes you feel any better some of those hens will 're lay a clutch of eggs.
turkeys are actually a remarkable bird. Hens are able to re inseminate themselves
In order to lay more eggs. When turkeys mate the hen stors seemen from the male turkey
in the event that her eggs are lost due to p redetation, weather, etc.
So in your case hopefully it is early enough in the nesting season that some will 're lay.
By no means am I condoning this BS as ok. Im just trying to give some hope on a crappy situation
Wow, that is absolutely pathetic. Definitely turkey....
Ride to SC and look at what the USFS is doing in the Francis Marion Forest. They were doing prescribed burns last week on large acreages of known turkey habitat. They have been doing it for years. They are burning these blocks with a helicopter. There is no way for a small poult to survive this.
Guys those look like goose eggs to me. ( certainly hope so) Wild Turkey eggs are larger than chicken and the taper from one end to the other is much more pronounced making the egg look sharper than other eggs. As was said turkey eggs are usually speckled brown but habitat will determine that some. Most goose eggs are lighter color and rounded much more that t eggs. fwiw
I hope not to upset any of you with this response....... but....
Turkeys love to nest in native grass type habitat. This type of habitat needs to be burnt on a 3 year average. Burning the grasses reduces competition and sets back succession to allow for the NWSG habitat to continue. Most agencies that manage for NWSG have blocks that can be burned on a rotational basis that allows for some fields to be burnt while others are successive years post burn. This means that while in block that gets burnt, turkey nests perish, the nests and poults from other sections are able to better take advantage of the excellent habitat created in the adjacent burn unit. There are limitations to burning ability where governmental agencies are concerned. Man power, other obligations, acceptable burning days, etc. Also, burning at different times of year will give you a different plant community response. As mentioned before, turkeys will re-nest after their nests are destroyed. That is an amazing thing about nature. Another thing to consider is the fact that the habitat that is created through the burn (though is destroys nest attempt #1) may be excellent habitat for the poults born in nest attempt #2. I would not be so quick to throw the agency folks under the bus. I don't know what their reasons were, but I don't believe they just went out willy nilly burning and not thinking about turkey nests and fawns. Instead of getting a severe case of butt hurt over a few nests being burnt up, try asking the people who did the burns why they chose those parameters to burn. Also, look at the benefits and see if they actually out weigh the negatives of the few nests lost.
Quote from: Vabirddog on June 04, 2014, 11:16:41 PM
Guys those look like goose eggs to me. ( certainly hope so) Wild Turkey eggs are larger than chicken and the taper from one end to the other is much more pronounced making the egg look sharper than other eggs. As was said turkey eggs are usually speckled brown but habitat will determine that some. Most goose eggs are lighter color and rounded much more that t eggs. fwiw
Looks like goose eggs to me also.
Quote from: HogBiologist on June 04, 2014, 11:25:12 PM
I hope not to upset any of you with this response....... but....
Turkeys love to nest in native grass type habitat. This type of habitat needs to be burnt on a 3 year average. Burning the grasses reduces competition and sets back succession to allow for the NWSG habitat to continue. Most agencies that manage for NWSG have blocks that can be burned on a rotational basis that allows for some fields to be burnt while others are successive years post burn. This means that while in block that gets burnt, turkey nests perish, the nests and poults from other sections are able to better take advantage of the excellent habitat created in the adjacent burn unit. There are limitations to burning ability where governmental agencies are concerned. Man power, other obligations, acceptable burning days, etc. Also, burning at different times of year will give you a different plant community response. As mentioned before, turkeys will re-nest after their nests are destroyed. That is an amazing thing about nature. Another thing to consider is the fact that the habitat that is created through the burn (though is destroys nest attempt #1) may be excellent habitat for the poults born in nest attempt #2. I would not be so quick to throw the agency folks under the bus. I don't know what their reasons were, but I don't believe they just went out willy nilly burning and not thinking about turkey nests and fawns. Instead of getting a severe case of butt hurt over a few nests being burnt up, try asking the people who did the burns why they chose those parameters to burn. Also, look at the benefits and see if they actually out weigh the negatives of the few nests lost.
Thank you for the educated response. Very good points as well.
Quote from: HogBiologist on June 04, 2014, 11:25:12 PM
I hope not to upset any of you with this response....... but....
Turkeys love to nest in native grass type habitat. This type of habitat needs to be burnt on a 3 year average. Burning the grasses reduces competition and sets back succession to allow for the NWSG habitat to continue. Most agencies that manage for NWSG have blocks that can be burned on a rotational basis that allows for some fields to be burnt while others are successive years post burn. This means that while in block that gets burnt, turkey nests perish, the nests and poults from other sections are able to better take advantage of the excellent habitat created in the adjacent burn unit. There are limitations to burning ability where governmental agencies are concerned. Man power, other obligations, acceptable burning days, etc. Also, burning at different times of year will give you a different plant community response. As mentioned before, turkeys will re-nest after their nests are destroyed. That is an amazing thing about nature. Another thing to consider is the fact that the habitat that is created through the burn (though is destroys nest attempt #1) may be excellent habitat for the poults born in nest attempt #2. I would not be so quick to throw the agency folks under the bus. I don't know what their reasons were, but I don't believe they just went out willy nilly burning and not thinking about turkey nests and fawns. Instead of getting a severe case of butt hurt over a few nests being burnt up, try asking the people who did the burns why they chose those parameters to burn. Also, look at the benefits and see if they actually out weigh the negatives of the few nests lost.
I am no biologist for sure, but the reply above has been given to me by many people who farm, hunt, and manage land in Kansas. Many swear by the burns, and said the turkey population thrives wherever they burn.
I'm betting the net gain exceeds the occasional lost nest....
mudhen
Yes turkey eggs and you and your hunting buddys need to pitch a fit. Thats TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!
After discussing this with my buddy who is a farmer we have considered they may be duck eggs, this burn took place on high ground in waist high prairie grass. The area had been flooded a few weeks prior which attracted many waterfowl. Also he said how he had a mallard who had a nest in one of his hay fields 1/2 mile from the nearest source of water. The eggs were not speckled from what I could tell and they were about the size of a chicken egg.
My other buddy who works for the Montana Conservation Corps had this to say...
They are probably targeting a specific invasive plant left un-burned the entire area over grown no longer waterfowl habitat. Also good to burn now because native plants are germinating and risk of out of control burn is very low. If they leave it those eggs would get eaten by predators or the hatchlings wouldn't make it out of the duff layer. Nature isn't always pretty.
Ok guys, nothing to see here. You can all go home now. The witch hunt is over and the DNR didn't do anything wrong.
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PS, this is what I pictured in my head as I read through this post yesterday.
Haha, well it still was not a pretty sight to see walking around in it. And a few other eggs I think still may have been turkey but you can't just assume because they are from the dnr that they are always right, I think we all know that to be false.
Saw a controlled burn on state land in Indy last couple days of there turkey season!!! Morons!!! lots of things nesting that time of year!!! :TrainWreck1:
I agree with burning, but the timing needs to be carefully managed. In some instances, there are inept people running this process and at times extremely overzealous. We were hunting a lake a few years ago and my buddies were in a field when they noticed they had ignited that field. They had to pack up their blind and get out before the flames got to them. They thought perhaps the "burners" did not know they were there but when they got back to their truck they noticed that they had sprayed down the grass around their truck to keep it from burning! I am sure there are many knowledgeable people running these programs, but not always!
Geese nest are all ready done .most of the Time it real close to water .
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They were burning some public land we hunt in NE as we arrived this spring. Always a ton of bids on it ( bout 700 acres). We killed 6 off it in two days. Seems like the Parks and wildlife have something figured out. Ranger told me over the phone before we got there that some of it would be on fire. Same thing here in GA on some refuge land we hunt. It's always on fire. One of the best Turkey spots in the state. Oh yeah here's a turkey egg. Several weeks ago as I rounded a curve in the road a hen spooked from the roadside and took flight. She dropped this egg in the road from about 10 feet up and flew across the road and into the woods.........Sorry for the large sized photo, no time to resize it at the moment.
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