I never eat at these crap hole stores but here's just another reason I won't.
Thought you folks might want to draw your own conclusion.
http://news.msn.com/us/chipotle-dont-bring-guns-in-our-stores
They are still in business?
mudhen
I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone walked in carrying a AR, now carrying concealed...wouldnt bother me at all...of course how would I know anyways right?
These places are making it easy to not go there, I think hooters is on that list as well, both places have shitty food so no loss for me!
I've never ate there, and now never will.
Anyone who walks in any restaurant that's carrying an AR-15 needs their damn head examined.
Quote from: Jasonb53 on May 20, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone walked in carrying a AR, now carrying concealed...wouldnt bother me at all...of course how would I know anyways right?
Who in their right mind would?
I like ARs. I feel pretty certain that anyone carrying a gun is on my side. If he proves differently by placing me or someone else in reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury, then we just might have a gunfight. Unfortunately, I will not be in Chipotle to render aid to the innocent. I carry concealed everywhere the law allows and pray that I am never called upon to draw.
That happened in Texas. My guess is that there were a lot more guns in that restaurant than they realized. Doesn't pretty much everybody in Texas carry???
It was my impression that the restriction was limited to open-carry... That being the case, I would have no issue.
And yea, if I am eating dinner with my family in Chipotle, and someone comes in with an AR-15 strapped to their back (legal or not), we are leaving out the opposite door this guy is coming in (and I would be leaving with a sense of urgency)... I am guessing a fair number of us on these forums would react in a similar manner... Even if this guy is not a criminal, to me it screams paranoid reactionary...
I not am scared of guns, but it is the fact that someone is deviating outside of social norms that would make me nervous. Open carry in my neck of the woods is not common practice, and would raise an eyebrow from the majority of people.
And as a business owner, you have to decide who your customers are... Allowing open carry would likely cause more business loss for this company than not allowing such. Easy business decision here...
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Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on May 20, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: Jasonb53 on May 20, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone walked in carrying a AR, now carrying concealed...wouldnt bother me at all...of course how would I know anyways right?
Who in their right mind would?
:agreed: Just asking for unwanted trouble in many ways. Not a very bright way to show being a gun advocate. Just gives the Libs/Radicals some more ammo on stereotyping all gun owners as crazies IMO.
Crazy...
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Quote from: Marc on May 20, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
It was my impression that the restriction was limited to open-carry... That being the case, I would have no issue.
And yea, if I am eating dinner with my family in Chipotle, and someone comes in with an AR-15 strapped to their back (legal or not), we are leaving out the opposite door this guy is coming in (and I would be leaving with a sense of urgency)... I am guessing a fair number of us on these forums would react in a similar manner... Even if this guy is not a criminal, to me it screams paranoid reactionary...
I not am scared of guns, but it is the fact that someone is deviating outside of social norms that would make me nervous. Open carry in my neck of the woods is not common practice, and would raise an eyebrow from the majority of people.
And as a business owner, you have to decide who your customers are... Allowing open carry would likely cause more business loss for this company than not allowing such. Easy business decision here...
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^^ this
Those folks may seem like idiots, but you have to consider that there may be a time when you need to do what they did. I generally open carry a handgun. The only ones that notice are those that are trying to concealed-carry and have it on their mind. I have had to go some places for work that toting a rifle would not be uncalled for. I have open carried a couple of AR-15s to a civic center for a gun show. There were other events going on at the same time; including families with kids running around outside an ice skating rink. No one paid any attention, except those of us with guns on our mind.
They are idiots in every sense of the word
This kind of stupidity is a shot in the foot to every "smart" gun owner out there,every time something like this happens.
Quote from: howl on May 21, 2014, 03:41:13 PM
Those folks may seem like idiots, but you have to consider that there may be a time when you need to do what they did. I generally open carry a handgun. The only ones that notice are those that are trying to concealed-carry and have it on their mind. I have had to go some places for work that toting a rifle would not be uncalled for.
What kind of places for work? Just curious......
Open carry is legal in NC. But folks that do carry openly have side arm on the side in a holster. But since we have concealed carry in NC. Folks are not open carring much anymore. But I have never thought of carring a long gun in the open. It would not be liked or wanted in any restruant I go too.
Quote from: swamp_bird89 on May 21, 2014, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: howl on May 21, 2014, 03:41:13 PM
Those folks may seem like idiots, but you have to consider that there may be a time when you need to do what they did. I generally open carry a handgun. The only ones that notice are those that are trying to concealed-carry and have it on their mind. I have had to go some places for work that toting a rifle would not be uncalled for.
What kind of places for work? Just curious......
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Quote from: tomstopper on May 20, 2014, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on May 20, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: Jasonb53 on May 20, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone walked in carrying a AR, now carrying concealed...wouldnt bother me at all...of course how would I know anyways right?
Who in their right mind would?
:agreed: Just asking for unwanted trouble in many ways. Not a very bright way to show being a gun advocate. Just gives the Libs/Radicals some more ammo on stereotyping all gun owners as crazies IMO.
I take it just the opposite point of view. Another reason why the average person who has mixed opinions about gun rights would say gun owners are crazy. It would be like taking a AR-15 into a Walmart just to say a person felt like they needed to prove a point for their gun rights. We know that won't fly. A lot of folks would be either hitting the floor or running to get the hell out.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on May 22, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: tomstopper on May 20, 2014, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on May 20, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: Jasonb53 on May 20, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone walked in carrying a AR, now carrying concealed...wouldnt bother me at all...of course how would I know anyways right?
Who in their right mind would?
:agreed: Just asking for unwanted trouble in many ways. Not a very bright way to show being a gun advocate. Just gives the Libs/Radicals some more ammo on stereotyping all gun owners as crazies IMO.
I take it just the opposite point of view. Another reason why the average person who has mixed opinions about gun rights would say gun owners are crazy. It would be like taking a AR-15 into a Walmart just to say a person felt like they needed to prove a point for their gun rights. We know that won't fly. A lot of folks would be either hitting the floor or running to get the hell out.
I don't think so. Outside of some urban areas where folks are most disconnected from reality, I think most would think you bought the AR15 there. And to be honest about it, if your car ran hot late one night in certain parts of a city like Atlanta, it would not be a bad idea to tote one in there with you to get some water and coolant. You might need the option of doing something outside the norm sometimes. That is what freedom is all about.
Now, that's reasonable. The dudes posing with their hands on their rifles was not, but we cannot come down on them if we want to have the option of laying hands on rifles when we need to. Personally I'd have kept an eye on them. When they put their hands on the grips I'd have put mine on mine and asked them what they were doing. That's reasonable and there's nothing wrong with communication.
Quote from: howl on May 22, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on May 22, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: tomstopper on May 20, 2014, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on May 20, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: Jasonb53 on May 20, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone walked in carrying a AR, now carrying concealed...wouldnt bother me at all...of course how would I know anyways right?
Who in their right mind would?
:agreed: Just asking for unwanted trouble in many ways. Not a very bright way to show being a gun advocate. Just gives the Libs/Radicals some more ammo on stereotyping all gun owners as crazies IMO.
I take it just the opposite point of view. Another reason why the average person who has mixed opinions about gun rights would say gun owners are crazy. It would be like taking a AR-15 into a Walmart just to say a person felt like they needed to prove a point for their gun rights. We know that won't fly. A lot of folks would be either hitting the floor or running to get the hell out.
I don't think so. Outside of some urban areas where folks are most disconnected from reality, I think most would think you bought the AR15 there. And to be honest about it, if your car ran hot late one night in certain parts of a city like Atlanta, it would not be a bad idea to tote one in there with you to get some water and coolant. You might need the option of doing something outside the norm sometimes. That is what freedom is all about.
Now, that's reasonable. The dudes posing with their hands on their rifles was not, but we cannot come down on them if we want to have the option of laying hands on rifles when we need to. Personally I'd have kept an eye on them. When they put their hands on the grips I'd have put mine on mine and asked them what they were doing. That's reasonable and there's nothing wrong with communication.
I don't care where you are in the country, and I travel a lot, the REALITY of someone carrying a long gun in public is that they are about to be or already are the perpetrator of a mass casualty incident.
From rural Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, South Carolina or Kentucky, carrying AR's is not normal as determined by behavioral baselines and culture.
Conservatives are just as extreme as liberals these days. Common sense went out the window a long time ago.... No wonder moderate America tends to identify with the left.... Even eating dinner with a group of democrats seems more appealing than sitting around with some jacka$$ carrying a long gun.
ive seen people looking at guns looking through the scopes etc in the local store parking especailly during hunting season ive never saw anyone run or something like that there. got to love small towns in the middle of no where
Quote from: WV TURKEY THUG on May 22, 2014, 08:03:03 PM
ive seen people looking at guns looking through the scopes etc in the local store parking especailly during hunting season ive never saw anyone run or something like that there. got to love small towns in the middle of no where
to me this is a different topic than what this thread is referring to
Quote from: WV TURKEY THUG on May 22, 2014, 08:03:03 PM
ive seen people looking at guns looking through the scopes etc in the local store parking especailly during hunting season ive never saw anyone run or something like that there. got to love small towns in the middle of no where
to me this is a different topic than what this thread is referring to
QuoteOutside of some urban areas where folks are most disconnected from reality
So outside of urban areas is where people are more in touch with reality? Look, I get where you're coming from because I grew up outside of a small town in MO where we could do whatever we wanted whenever we wanted. I've also lived in cities a lot since then. And yes, it's different. I don't like, for instance, that I can't even burn my own leaves in the fall. But there's no call for thinking that
your "reality" is the only one. People adapt to their environments and living in close proximity with a lot of people necessitates a different set of societal norms.
Now, give me ONE good reason a person needs to walk around with a rifle in public. Maybe a bear will come terrorize the KFC while defenseless families are enjoying their buckets of extra crispy?
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 21, 2014, 11:47:38 AM
Quote from: Marc on May 20, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
It was my impression that the restriction was limited to open-carry... That being the case, I would have no issue.
And yea, if I am eating dinner with my family in Chipotle, and someone comes in with an AR-15 strapped to their back (legal or not), we are leaving out the opposite door this guy is coming in (and I would be leaving with a sense of urgency)... I am guessing a fair number of us on these forums would react in a similar manner... Even if this guy is not a criminal, to me it screams paranoid reactionary...
I not am scared of guns, but it is the fact that someone is deviating outside of social norms that would make me nervous. Open carry in my neck of the woods is not common practice, and would raise an eyebrow from the majority of people.
And as a business owner, you have to decide who your customers are... Allowing open carry would likely cause more business loss for this company than not allowing such. Easy business decision here...
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^^ this
This Again ^^^
I have to say , plenty of times at work ( ups - shopping mall) I dred the thought of a armed gunman emptying out a weapon on the masses , it's happened everywhere - everyone is edgy over it , I'm sure when the people in chipotle looked over their shoulder and saw some guy(s) walking in with a firearm , they thought this
1) armed robbery
2) mass shootings
3) hostage situation
I bet they were scarred sh$&less -
When I carry my weapon , it's a micro mouse .380 , it's in my pocket and looks like a wallet , nobody knows ...... That's the best alternative for a situation like this
Quote from: Old Gobbler on May 26, 2014, 07:56:20 PM
I have to say , plenty of times at work ( ups - shopping mall) I dred the thought of a armed gunman emptying out a weapon on the masses , it's happened everywhere - everyone is edgy over it , I'm sure when the people in chipotle looked over their shoulder and saw some guy(s) walking in with a firearm , they thought this
1) armed robbery
2) mass shootings
3) hostage situation
I bet they were scarred sh$&less -
When I carry my weapon , it's a micro mouse .380 , it's in my pocket and looks like a wallet , nobody knows ...... That's the best alternative for a situation like this
Sad thing about all this is.........what Chipolte did by banning ALL firearms from their stores as well as Starbucks and many others.......does NOT prevent anything that the Old Gobbler just numbered. Open carry OR concealed. It may encourage it. Don't get hung up on the AR. Just a scary black gun. It's bigger than that. It's an "anti" culture that's creeping into our safe, law-abiding lives. We'll be the minority soon...if not already.
As far as walking down the street of the little town of 350 that I live in with a rifle, shotgun or any firearm, it's no big deal we do it all the time. Hunting the ridges of our town has been done for years and years. I have absolutely no problem with seeing the youth of our town headed "up the tracks" with a firearm to hunt, target shoot or whatever. Sorry, no biggie. As always...just my opinion.
Anyone who carries an ar or any long gun into a crowded restaurant needs to have a boot implanted so deep they would need to unlace it to speak. These idiots need to open carry an ar for "self defense"? Are they going out to dinner in the U.S. or shopping at the bazaar in Mogadishu? This is why gun grabbers get traction for their schemes. People who don't own guns but who are on the fence about gun control see stuff like this and it pushes them over the edge toward "reasonable gun laws" To tell the truth I'm getting real sick of the whole Junior John Wayne Ar thing. While I support and will continue to support every ones right to own the firearm of their choosing, I'm tired of them being shoved down my throat at every turn on tv to print media. They are not MSR's (modern sporting rifles) They were designed starting in 59 which hardly makes it "modern" Anyways, walking out of town on a road with your gun going hunting is vastly different from entering a public place with a long gun. :z-twocents: