Was at sports store today and nobody had anything good to say anout them.anyone else not having good luck with them.was going to try them out of my 935 but at $26 abox I figured id stay with the turkey thugs.
180° from sporting goods store theory is a good place to be.
I've yet to hear a bad thing about em. There $19.99 a box everywhere by me
No shell works perfectly for every gun... It shots good in my gun though.
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I've shot the 5's and 4's at this point. 4's gave me 132 in a good killing pattern 10" at 40 yards using an SSX .643 Inv+ I suspect that the choke is too tight and I haven't had a chance to shoot the a more open one that I'm pretty sure will improve further given the larger shot. With the 5's I've shot a 184 and a 197 in 10" with the SSX .643 and a Rob Roberts .660. Whatever a sporting goods store wants to say is fine...but those are very solid lead numbers for not having to drop down to a #6 shot to get the pattern density. Even though I prefer the Hevi 13's that shoot well into the 200s in my set up, there is no reason to trash the Longbeard XR ammo....based on what've seen here it's turned some guys set ups that would be lucky to kill at 30 yards into legit 40 yard guns. Less wounded turkeys = Happier Hunters :you_rock:
Quote from: scastle on April 06, 2014, 11:13:15 PM
Was at sports store today and nobody had anything good to say anout them.anyone else not having good luck with them.was going to try them out of my 935 but at $26 abox I figured id stay with the turkey thugs.
There is mass amounts of info about them on this forum an online in general.Many places online seem to be on backorder,as are many shops around my local area.I picked up a box of 3in/6s of them for 20$ but have yet to try them out of my 845/24in ported/.695 factory choke.
I am a newbie on a budget,but I just couldn't resist after reading so much about the Londbeards XRs .I have heard a lot of good things about the turkey thugs shells as well..Probably pick up some of them sometime too
If you like a tight pattern you will like Winchester Longbeards. At 26.00 a box for longbeards at a sports store I would be shopping somewhere else for everything I need.
I shot Hevi blends for last few years.
This year I bought a FFIII and between sighting it in and out of state hunts I needed to try some cheaper shells.
Well I have limited out in Louisiana with Longbeard 5's. One at 35 yards second at 45 yards.
I was in the 200 Bb in 10" circle at 40 yards when sighting in.
Does the sporting goods store have any of these crappy shells in stock? This is one way to sway the customer to buy their shells still sitting on the shelf halfway through turkey season.
As for them being crappy shells I'd have to disagree with that sales person. That price of $26.77 or so a box may be low for next year's supply of "crappy" shells.
Buy a box and let that be your decided factor. There the best lead load I have ever shot by far :z-guntootsmiley: Chuck
You should look down through this patterning section of the forum...there are A BUNCH of patterns posted with long beards. See what you think. :icon_thumright:
I put up 200 in a 10 inch circle. These are a great shell for a budget hunter like myself.
Don't always believe what you hear at a sports store. After successful duck hunts on the weekends, my buddy and I usually look at guns at Sportsman's Warehouse. You wouldn't believe the crap that is said. I guess it's where all the experts and guides hang out.
After reading nothing but good things about the LB, I bought a box and was able to shoot them yesterday. They put up great numbers for a lead shell. If some one is saying these shells are "crappy", they may need to look at their rig to make sure its set up correctly for the shell......the 26 dollars per box seems a bit steep from what I have been seeing them go for.
Sounds like your local store has some very informed staff. They are correct, they ARE crap. Tell your friends not to buy any as well. Anybody that reads this thread should also stop buying them, especically the number 5's and 6's. :goofball: :TooFunny: :goofball: :TooFunny:
I've tried them. They look great in one gun and no good in another. One gun tears up the wads. Thinking they don't get along with the choke (undertaker). Ordered different choke, but haven't got it yet. As already pointed out The price sould be $18 or $20 a box.
Guys that price is prob for 3.5". 3" has been running around $19
I love these shells
They work great in my BPS with a .665 Indian Creek. 200+ in 10" at 40 yards. The best lead loads I have ever shot. Your mileage may vary.
Quote from: olturkey on April 07, 2014, 03:41:38 PM
I've tried them. They look great in one gun and no good in another. One gun tears up the wads. Thinking they don't get along with the choke (undertaker). Ordered different choke, but haven't got it yet. As already pointed out The price sould be $10 or $20 a box.
I have an undertaker xt in my 12 ga encore. It will put 190+ in 10" at 40 yards. But, as you mentioned every gun is different and results may vary.
I'm getting 210 at 40 yard with lb #6 3in in my 935 and X Factor choke
I'm not going to say these shells are "crap", but neither of my guns liked 'em - so, I'll be sticking w/a "blended" shell moving forward... I don't change my guns to "fit" a shell; I find a shell that "fits" my guns, and rock on...
Quote from: bamagtrdude on April 08, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
I'm not going to say these shells are "crap", but neither of my guns liked 'em - so, I'll be sticking w/a "blended" shell moving forward... I don't change my guns to "fit" a shell; I find a shell that "fits" my guns, and rock on...
The blends were my next choice. I patterned in order of pricing. College is expensive!
Quote from: JuniorPre 360 on April 08, 2014, 03:34:57 PM
The blends were my next choice. I patterned in order of pricing. College is expensive!
I hear ya; "expense" is one of the reasons why I tried the LB's, too. Unfortunately, they didn't work out for me.
Those hunters must shoot Nitro Rays no. 7 shot. :OGturkeyhead:
I shot some awesome patterns with the 3" LB's. 214 in a 10 with 6's and 170's in a 10 with 5's. The pattern with the 6's and 5's is tight at 20 and also tight at 30. Tight as in smaller than a volleyball. I was shooting off of a solid table patterning and it was really easy to get off target to the point that only the very outer edge would hit the turkey. Outer edge of the pattern is sparse compared to the center of these patterns. Shooting free hand in a hunting position makes it easy to miss. I have a gun that shoots 333 with Hevi 7's @ 40 and the 30-40 pattern is much larger than the LB's. The 20yd pattern is larger by 2-3 inches. Larger pattern up close and more shot in a 10 @ 40 sent me back to the Hevi 7's. Getting the turkeys in close has not been a problem, missing a turkey that has committed to the call and in close makes these super tight patterns inside 30yds a little less appealing to me. Real hunting situations helped me decide to go back to Hevi 7's and even Win XX, HV, and Super X. Shooting turkeys inside 40yds for me can be done in a way that cuts down on misses and still harvests the turkey effectively.
Quote from: scastle on April 06, 2014, 11:13:15 PM
Was at sports store today and nobody had anything good to say anout them.anyone else not having good luck with them.was going to try them out of my 935 but at $26 abox I figured id stay with the turkey thugs.
that is why I picked up the Magnum Blends and I am happy that I did
I chose to hunt this year with thugs because lb xr didn't fill out my 20" at 40.
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I'm a fan. Seen 4 killed this year with LB 5's and they were devastating. However to stay 40 yds. and in for many guns their not a must. Two of my guns already shot around the 130's with the regular Win. and the 5 thugs, that's plenty and never had a problem with that. I can really see these shells helping those people who were struggling to break 100 @ 40.
I'm a hevi-shot guy but these LongBeard #5's have shot pretty well for me...bought another box today, wouldn't be afraid to shoot the right along side my Hevi 13 #6 patterns are similar.
You probably need to spend some time with the search feature. There is probably 1000 positive posts about the longbeards. Actually I have never seen so many positive posts about a single product like the longbeards.
I think the sporting good store was worried that his large inventory of hevi 13 was never going to leave the shelves again. So he would tell a little white lie.
Down to 4 #5 LB's and 6 #6 LB's.
Def like the #5's better but both pattern great in my gun. Missing at close range is def a possibility with the tight pattern but I used a FFIII and check it often.
So far this year killed 2 turkeys with them, one at 35 the other at 45 yards, both were clean kills. I also shot another running/flopping turkey my buddy shot that prob wasn't going far but I wanted to put some insurance in.
Def impressed with these shells and only keeping the Hevi blends for backup. I will be stocking up on #5 LB's during the offseason for next year.
Best lead load ever developed . They shoot better for me than any other loads out there. Incredible patterns ! Walmart has them for $16.99 . Going out in the morning with plans to shoot a gobbler right in the face.