Hey Y'all,
I shoot a Beretta 390 12 gauge for my turkey gun. I have a Kicks GT .655 choke. I have been shooting 3 inch Winchester Extended Range #6's. Out the 30 yards my pattern is pretty good, but at 40 its so so. I have killed birds at 40 with it, but it just doesn't seem as tight as my buddies chokes at 40.
Any recommendations? I am willing to change chokes, ammo, etc.
Here is my 30 yard pattern______what do y'all think?
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/gatrapper/CJ30yd001.jpg)
I can't help you with the shell/choke combo but I'b be concerned with that pattern. I'd shoot a bigger target, it may be as simple as a sight adjustment, but based on that target you have some shot missing somewhere.
i swore i would never shoot hevi shot. then i shot hevi shot. go figure. i shoot the mag blends and cannot believe the difference from the winchester #5's and #6's. i also switched my choke to an indian creek, and deep cleaned the barrel. which of the three made the biggest difference? who knows. i think the shells did, but the choke is pretty good too. this is out of a benelli black eagle 2, which uses the same or similar choke as a beretta. i think. hope this helps.
That pattern is seriously lacking GA. I would try a new load and even choke. at 30 yds it should look a lot tighter than that. I shoot a Tightwad with my Benelli and that looks like my 50 yd pattern with Win. XR 6's. I just switched last year to Hevi Mag Blends and I like em' alot. They pattern even better.
Ok Thanks Y'all, going to call Kicks tomorrow and see whats up.
Keep the info coming along please.
Who makes a good choke that will handle heavy shot?
i like, or rather my gun likes, the indian creek with the hevi shot. yours may not.
Ground Control, Which Indian Creek tube are you shooting .665?
If possible could y'all post pictures of your patterns at certain yardages?
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg311/redarrow51/100_0205.jpg)
Quote from: Basser69 on February 08, 2011, 05:57:10 PM
Ground Control, Which Indian Creek tube are you shooting .665?
yep, .665. im trying to find a target with a 40yd pattern to take a pic of, but i got around 210 pellets in a 12in circle. i think it was close to 245 in a 13 or 14in circle. these aren't circles i've drawn, just whatever is on the turkey target im shootin at.
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40yd #2 i believe this target had about a 13in circle. i flipped the target over and traced the circle and drew the "cross hairs" to be able to count em.
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Quote from: gatrapper on February 08, 2011, 05:48:40 PM
Ok Thanks Y'all, going to call Kicks tomorrow and see whats up.
Keep the info coming along please.
Who makes a good choke that will handle heavy shot?
GA, your Kick's choke will handle the Hevi-Shot just fine. I've shot Hevi-Shot thru mine for years as have several other members of this forum. Hevi-13 #7's and your gun/choke combo will make you wish you'd shot them before now!!
Are you sure? Kicks says no hevi shot or steel shot.
As the others have said. Shoot a bigger piece of paper, then draw your circle around the most dense part of the pattern. Looks like you're shooting way low and to the right.
Shane
I use a Mossberg 835 and got patterns much like yours until I used the JellyHead + Hevi Shot #6 combo. Then it patterned nice and tight at 40 yards.
Quote from: TrkyHntr on February 08, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
As the others have said. Shoot a bigger piece of paper, then draw your circle around the most dense part of the pattern. Looks like you're shooting way low and to the right.
Shane
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Quote from: slickyboyboo on February 09, 2011, 09:43:28 AM
Quote from: gatrapper on February 08, 2011, 09:32:21 PM
Are you sure? Kicks says no hevi shot or steel shot.
Kicks chokes are fine with hevi, one of my best shooting handloads, I shoot through a Kicks and my 870, with no issues and great patterns. The no Hevi this is just that Chuck Boswell seems to have beef with Hevi, because he says you can shoot Win Extended Range through his chokes, which is very hard also, and nowhere as soft as lead. Also it seems that Win is his sponser, and has been for a while, so his no Hevi, but go ahead and shoot the Win Extended, is his way of promoting the Win shells.
If you talk to Chuck in length, it seems he really has no clue, and will condridict himself many times in the same conversation. He will say Hevi is a no through his chokes, but will say that Nitros are OK, and when you tell him that Nitros are Hevi, he will say you can't shoot those either. He is very confused.
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Quote from: TrkyHntr on February 08, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
As the others have said. Shoot a bigger piece of paper, then draw your circle around the most dense part of the pattern. Looks like you're shooting way low and to the right.
Shane
Exactly what I thought. Your POA and POI are off. You are low and right. Shoot a 3x3 foot piece before spending your money on any further chokes. You will be pleasantly surprised at your pattern.
Quote from: JohnDoe on February 09, 2011, 09:50:48 AM
Quote from: gatrapper on February 08, 2011, 09:32:21 PM
Are you sure? Kicks says no hevi shot or steel shot.
Shoot it. I have run many a Hevi round thru my Comp-n-Choke 675 and no sign of damage.
Also my Kicks 680.
John
I have shot it through my c-n-c as well but I have seen a few of those blow up so I would be careful :icon_thumright:
Just spoke to Kicks and this is what I was told.
*Since Im using Winchester XR I need to open my choke up. Due to the nature of the load I am probably over choking the gun and that is throwing my pattern off pretty bad. The guy I spoke to also shot a Beretta 390 and he stated that he had similar problems and once he opened his choke up to a .660 the problems went away.
Going to box up the choke and mail it out to have them switch out the choke.
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Quote from: TrkyHntr on February 08, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
As the others have said. Shoot a bigger piece of paper, then draw your circle around the most dense part of the pattern. Looks like you're shooting way low and to the right.
Shane
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i would also go with a .660 or .665 and H13
before you invest in more chokes or shells, i would shoot at a 30"x30" piece of paper and aim directly into the middle and see where the majority of your pattern ends up, i have a feeling your shooting at least 6" low from point of aim, do this at 30yds and once you correct the point of aim issue then shoot a pattern so that it is in the center of the paper and then count your holes, i believe that you may already have a combo that will work well for you but your gun just doesnt shoot straight