Anybody using this combo?
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Quote from: Teebugg on March 11, 2014, 08:29:33 PM
Anybody using this combo?
No disrespect or sarcasm but are you kidding or is this a serious question?
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The only way I would ever use a modified choke for turkeys would be if I decided to hunt them "old school" with my 1959 vintage 2 3/4 inch chambered Winchester Model 12 12 ga. It has a 28" barrel with a FIXED choke. I would test a number of different loads and then pick the one that throws the best patterns. Even then I would limit my shots to no more than about 30 yards.
Quote from: MouthCaller on March 11, 2014, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: Teebugg on March 11, 2014, 08:29:33 PM
Anybody using this combo?
No disrespect or sarcasm but are you kidding or is this a serious question?
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Its a serious question. I was just wondering if anyone had used a modified choke and lb xr. Thats my choke and the shells im thinking of shooting.
I could be wrong but I don't think you'll find anyone shooting a modified at turkeys unless you see a special circumstance like the previously mentioned. Most everybody here shoots after market chokes or at least a factory turkey choke.
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Well my h&r is modifed from the factory. Im just curious if anyone shoots this combo and what knd of results they have gotten. I understand that most shoot factory or aftermarket chokes, unfortunately im not able to change my choke.
Ok gotcha well my curiosity is peaked on the matter now I wouldn't care to see what an effective kill range would be with that set up.
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I suspect it will give even patterns but not the tightest which means you will have to limit your shot distance. I would suggest testing it at 25, 30 35 yards and when you no longer can put at least 100 shot in a 10 inch circle then limit your shot distance to less than that range. If your willing to spend the money then also try the Federal Heavyweight #7 in the flight control wads. The flight control is designed to be used with more open and even fixed choke guns. The smaller but heavier shot will help keep the pattern density up at longer range. it can be done with a modified choke but you really need to test and know what the gun and shell is capable of.
Well i know a modified isnt a largely constricted choke, and figured the lb xr might tighten the pattern up a bit. Tried some flite controls and that was a disaster. Heck the flite control shot better out of my 870 cylinder bore at 25 yards than the modified h&r. Hoping someone may chime in, or ill just bite the bullet and get a box.
Sorry to hear the flight control didn't work. Every gun is different and you just don't know till you test it.
Biggest thing is i see all the hype about the longbeards. I used to shoot winchester supreme 3" out of this gun and have killed a few turkeys with that combo. Couple around 30-35 yards. I tend to limit myself to that range anyways but if anything can improve my pattern or distance, im all for it. Maybe i should just live by " if it aint broke dont fix it"
Just a suggestion, but if you also have an 870 why not sell the H&R and buy a new barrel with rem choke for the 870. That way you'd have one of the best multi purpose shotguns out there. Again, only a suggestion. :anim_25: :anim_25:
I have thought about that lol. But my 870 is my deer gun/home defense. And its older than i am. Family gun passed onto me and i havent changed a thing besides refinishing the wood.
Quote from: Teebugg on March 11, 2014, 09:59:30 PM
I have thought about that lol. But my 870 is my deer gun/home defense. And its older than i am. Family gun passed onto me and i havent changed a thing besides refinishing the wood.
I completely understand. But, It would still be the same gun. With a new barrel you could still use it for deer, home defense, ducks, squirrel, rabbits, clays, hogs, geese, doves, zombies, and TURKEY! My 870 has served me in all of those endeavors.....except the zombie part. LOL.
Good luck with whatever you decide. If you shoot some longbeards with that modified put up some pictures. Might be surprising.
Back in the mid 80's I started out with an H&R Partner 12ga with a full choke. I was comfortable out to about 35 yards. I used both Winchester and Federal #6's in 3 inch shells. That H&R will rattle you shooting 3 in turkey loads :o :o
It definitley has some kick to it with a 3"! Im putting a recoil pad on it before this turkey season!
I just patterned my SX3 wtith .665 Briley rifled with supreme HV and LB #5's. 40 yards the longbeareds are too tight for me to hunt. the supreme shells are a little more open than LB, I will use the supreme shells. Yes the long beard will tighten your patter out of that gun. If you are already shooting 30 yards, you will probably make 40 yards. You will have to shoot to see. I also had a .655 factory choke I was going to try, but the .665 was so tight I didn't try it.
Im thinking ill just pick up a box of lb and turkey thugs. Hear good things about both so might as well give them a try.
I believe Hornady makes a shell that was designed to throw tighter patterns with more open chokes. I don't have any experience with them but they might be worth a look.
Try the different shot sizes. I know it will be costly, but different shot sizes may react different with different constriction and you may be able to fine tune that way. Good luck.
Quote from: Teebugg on March 12, 2014, 10:40:48 AM
Im thinking ill just pick up a box of lb and turkey thugs. Hear good things about both so might as well give them a try.
Interesting topic and one I've been pursuing myself. I plan to test the LB 3" 5s I have through some stock chokes in an 870 next week.
i think you will be surprised at the pattern you will get if us the lb #4 or #5 out of that combo good luck
I killed a gobbler with a modified choke in my Remington 870 20 gauge at 40 yards with cheap Remington 3 inch magnum 4 shot loads not nearly the best pattern but hey it got the job done
I believe the LB 4's will do wonders and get you to 40 for sure. They definitely worked out of my 870 30" full barrel.
I did not read through all of the posts, so if this may have already been mentioned but if you are working with a modified choke you might want to look at the hornady turkey loads. They are made for improved and modified chokes. Never shot them but have a friend that uses them with a fixed mod. He killed three birds within 40 yards with them last season
Grabbed a box of #6 longbeards and some kent ultimate diamond. Always wanted to try them so figured why not. Plan to keep my shots at 30 or less. Will hopefully post some good pattern pics this weekend!
I haven't tried it yet, but I want try to kill one with my Ithaca 37 16 ga with a fixed Mod.
(Sorry missed the LB part. Don't think they are making those in 16 ga.)
Ive killed turkeys with this gun, but using the winchester supremes. Hoping the longbeards tighten the pattern up amd maybe give me a little more distance. That being said i dont normally shoot past 20-25 yards. Just my comfort zone and i love to get em in close :)
Quote from: Birdyblaster on March 12, 2014, 12:16:43 PM
I believe Hornady makes a shell that was designed to throw tighter patterns with more open chokes. I don't have any experience with them but they might be worth a look.
If you want to throw money away get some , you might be the first to get a decent pattern, many have failed miserably, just a little FYI.
I havent read too many good reviews of the hornadys so i shyed away from them. Cant wait to test these longbeards and kents!
Seems like I remember having one of those guns that had a bump inside the barrel from the front bead. That would be a deal killer for the flight control wads. If you were able to get rid of that, they might work.
Ttt
Just because I was curious I try'd the #5s though a modified at 20yds and since the OP didn't post any pics I figured I'd post my results.
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a mod choke is not out of the question. I wouldnt hesitate at all on using one once the timber greened up and visibility gets a limited to 10 15 yards because vegetation is grown