Trying to help my cousin setup a Mossy 500 to shoot HWT 6s or 7s. He's not looking for a match winner just a good hunting pattern. What do y'all suggest?
Primos Tightwad, Carlson's .575 non-ported or one of William Sumtoy's fine chokes in a .572. All you need to know and no reason to search further or harder. :icon_thumright:
Thanks mightyjoeyoung! I'll check into them.
I've done well with the Primos tightwad and a Carlson's X-Full choke in my 500 20ga. while patterning last year. I would say the Tightwad is probably the better of the 2.
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Quote from: Crappiepro on March 10, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
I've done well with the Primos tightwad and a Carlson's X-Full choke in my 500 20ga. while patterning last year. I would say the Tightwad is probably the better of the 2.
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Don't know what the size is on the x-full Carlson,but the .575 Carlson is just as good as the Tightwad.
(I have both)
Undertaker non ported gave me better numbers than the tightwad ported
Quote from: cohuttariverrat on March 12, 2014, 09:15:31 AM
Undertaker non ported gave me better numbers than the tightwad ported
That's honestly the first time I think I've ever heard that. That being said I do understand every gun is diferent . I mean I've got an undertaker in my encore pro hunter and it shoots...decent, but the only reason its still in the gun is because I picked the barrel up just before last season and I now have 2 other PROVEN chimes to try that I'm sure will post up better.
Yea I know. Shooting HW7 the tightwad gave me in 130's and undertaker in 150's consistently . Clean bore before each shot as well. I have a new lot# this year and will try again
Thanks guys!!
I shot it this morning with the unported Undertaker he already had in it. The shot was 38yds with a 3" HWT #6. It wasn't a match winner, but he's happy.
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I use the .572 non ported Undertaker in my sons Moss Bantam. I like it well enough that I just bought another one for my 7 yr old daughter's Moss 510 mini.
I have a Mossberg 500 super bantam with a 22 inch barrel and i use the the .575 undertaker choke and hwt 7s and it puts up 160s in the 10 at 40 everytime.
I like the undertaker myself.
Last season the 40yd pattern was in the 150's with undertaker shooting hw7 in a bantam. Shot yesterday with a new lot# of #7's and got 182 with the undertaker. Probably will be selling a tightwad soon as its best was 130's.
Quote from: cohuttariverrat on March 15, 2014, 01:17:22 PM
Last season the 40yd pattern was in the 150's with undertaker shooting hw7 in a bantam. Shot yesterday with a new lot# of #7's and got 182 with the undertaker. Probably will be selling a tightwad soon as its best was 130's.
What was this lot #? Thanks
5p-10pj593 my bore is polished like a mirror as well
I personally like the undertaker myself. I have the ported and non-ported for my 500. Now I use it as my backup gun.
After all of your reviews I just picked up a undertaker choke for sons mossberg. It says don't shoot high density stuff though it but it seems that is what everyone is using. Wondering if anyone has had any negative results.
Quote from: strutter on March 16, 2014, 04:06:45 PM
After all of your reviews I just picked up a undertaker choke for sons mossberg. It says don't shoot high density stuff though it but it seems that is what everyone is using. Wondering if anyone has had any negative results.
They make a high density choke tube. I think it's called the Undertaker XT high density. I know a lot of people who do but I've never tried it. For safety reasons I usually stick to manufacturers recommendations.
I looked at their website but it only showed the high density in 12 guage only.
Quote from: BigStrutter on March 16, 2014, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: strutter on March 16, 2014, 04:06:45 PM
After all of your reviews I just picked up a undertaker choke for sons mossberg. It says don't shoot high density stuff though it but it seems that is what everyone is using. Wondering if anyone has had any negative results.
They make a high density choke tube. I think it's called the Undertaker XT high density. I know a lot of people who do but I've never tried it. For safety reasons I usually stick to manufacturers recommendations.
HTL "approved" H.S. Undertaker 20 ga. tubes part numbers:
Ported: 06717. Non-ported: 00653.
"Lead only" chokes:
Ported: 06727. Non-ported: 00666.
I found it for 12 and 20. Here's the link http://www.hunterspec.com/content/undertakerr-xt-high-density-ported-turkey-choke-tubes
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 16, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: BigStrutter on March 16, 2014, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: strutter on March 16, 2014, 04:06:45 PM
After all of your reviews I just picked up a undertaker choke for sons mossberg. It says don't shoot high density stuff though it but it seems that is what everyone is using. Wondering if anyone has had any negative results.
They make a high density choke tube. I think it's called the Undertaker XT high density. I know a lot of people who do but I've never tried it. For safety reasons I usually stick to manufacturers recommendations.
HTL "approved" H.S. Undertaker 20 ga. tubes part numbers:
Ported: 06717. Non-ported: 00653.
"Lead only" chokes:
Ported: 06727. Non-ported: 00666.
Nice info.....I feel like an idiot. lol I just looked at both of mine and the non-ported says 00666 (.575) Lead only and the ported says 06953 (.582) High Density. If I remember correctly (it was a few years back) I bought the ported a month after the other and just figured it was lead only as well. Looks like the ol' backup gun is going to get a Hevi Shot pattern real soon. ;D
They're ALL made from the exact same steel, so if you're getting good patterns with the "Lead Only" choke I would run it. The ONLY diference is the constriction/exit dia..
I looked and the high density for 20 guage only comes ported everyone here claims they are using the non ported undertaker with HW loads
I didn't dream up those part numbers, but ok...
Yea mine is non ported for high density loads
I believe you didn't make those #'s up but where did you find them. lol I cant find the 00653 non ported high density choke on the HS Strut site. I really would like to purchase this choke for my sons Moss 20 ga. Would love some clarification. Thanks!
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 16, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: BigStrutter on March 16, 2014, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: strutter on March 16, 2014, 04:06:45 PM
After all of your reviews I just picked up a undertaker choke for sons mossberg. It says don't shoot high density stuff though it but it seems that is what everyone is using. Wondering if anyone has had any negative results.
They make a high density choke tube. I think it's called the Undertaker XT high density. I know a lot of people who do but I've never tried it. For safety reasons I usually stick to manufacturers recommendations.
HTL "approved" H.S. Undertaker 20 ga. tubes part numbers:
Ported: 06717. Non-ported: 00653.
"Lead only" chokes:
Ported: 06727. Non-ported: 00666.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-S-STRUT-UNDERTAKER-TURKEY-CHOKE-TUBE-20-GAUGE-00653-FITS-GUNS-LISTED-BELOW-/221408705385?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338cfcbb69
Thank you sir!