Bought a Benelli M2 20 gauage,,,any suggestions for loads and choke...going to use it as a little for turkey,,,and would like to get the tightest pattern I can out of it,,thanks
Federal Heavyweight 7's and a SumToy 562-5. My M2 does around 170 in a 10" circle at 40 with that combo.
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Quote from: alloutdoors on March 02, 2014, 06:12:07 PM
Federal Heavyweight 7's and a SumToy 562-5. My M2 does around 170 in a 10" circle at 40 with that combo.
My M2 20 ga. Should arrive at Sumtoy tomorrow. Shipped a box of the heavyweights along with it.
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I get very good patterns with the factory full choke and FED HW #7's
i cant ask for better.
I just shot two loads through my M2 yesterday with an Indian Creek .555 choke.
The first load was HeviShot Mag Blend. At 40 yards I only got 115 hits in a 10" circle.
The second load was Nitro H276C (4x5x7). At 40 yards I got 135 hits in a 10" circle.
Both loads performed worse than I expected. I was hoping for 175+/- a few.
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Quote from: archdriver on March 03, 2014, 02:27:42 PM
I get very good patterns with the factory full choke and FED HW #7's
i cant ask for better.
Nothing wrong with that pattern, but everything tends to look good at 30. If you are only going to shoot at 30 you don't need the HW's, if you are ever going to shoot past 30 you should have a choke that will let you take advantage of the full potential of the shell.
If you ever do want to ask for better, you can get it. Easily.
Carlson
Thanks guys for the information, still haven't made up my mind,,,I will use my M1,,,this season and look for a choke for my M2!!
Thanks again,
Longbeards
Try the Indian Creek after shooting a few rounds through it . I went from just under 100 in ten circle to 147 in the ten to 276/183 in the ten and twenty circles in my M2 with TSS.
Yours may settle in with higher numbers after a few shots .
Quote from: DC1. on March 04, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
Try the Indian Creek after shooting a few rounds through it . I went from just under 100 in ten circle to 147 in the ten to 276/183 in the ten and twenty circles in my M2 with TSS.
Yours may settle in with higher numbers after a few shots .
I did a deep cleaning on the barrel tonight and also picked up a few boxes of Fed HW 7's to try.
Hopefully the 7's will get the numbers up some. If not, I'll try another choke.
I hope to get set up to load tss in the near future. That stuff looks awesome on paper.
Sumtoy and Fed HW#7.... deadly in a 20ga.
Quote from: keith5579 on March 04, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: DC1. on March 04, 2014, 05:27:54 PM
Try the Indian Creek after shooting a few rounds through it . I went from just under 100 in ten circle to 147 in the ten to 276/183 in the ten and twenty circles in my M2 with TSS.
Yours may settle in with higher numbers after a few shots .
I did a deep cleaning on the barrel tonight and also picked up a few boxes of Fed HW 7's to try.
Hopefully the 7's will get the numbers up some. If not, I'll try another choke.
I hope to get set up to load tss in the near future. That stuff looks awesome on paper.
Not just awesome on paper, it is pure death on turkeys.
Quote from: alloutdoors on March 03, 2014, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: archdriver on March 03, 2014, 02:27:42 PM
I get very good patterns with the factory full choke and FED HW #7's
i cant ask for better.
Nothing wrong with that pattern, but everything tends to look good at 30. If you are only going to shoot at 30 you don't need the HW's, if you are ever going to shoot past 30 you should have a choke that will let you take advantage of the full potential of the shell.
If you ever do want to ask for better, you can get it. Easily.
I dont disagree that patterns can get much tighter and indeed the enrgy of fed hw can extend past 30 yrds (more likely 40-45 yrds) I just always wrestle with the conflict of sacrificing closer shots in exchange for long shots. For me, my money shot is 20-35 and I want optimum patterns for this range. I dont shoot with any optics or other sighting devices , so I like having a little more open patterns at these inside distances. Gets back to the old argument of turkey hunting being about calling a bird in close. I dont disregard peoples individual desire to shoot tight patterns , it is just my own preference.
I shoot a PG .555 with 3" Heavy 13 #6's and kill them close and far off, throws a great pattern.
My buddy is running a .570 Pure Gold out of his Benelli. Averages at 150 using Nitro 7's at 40 yards. He didn't want anything tighter then that. I was running a .555 IC out of my Benelli and averaged about 180 at 40 yards using Nitro 7's. I've since switched to Federal Heavyweight in size 7 and average about 150, but have switched to a Sumtoy. The Indian Creek had the wad catchers and didn't pattern the Heavyweights with the flight control wad very well. I'm happy with the heavyweights with the Sumtoy. Believe it is a 562. It's a 45 yard gun easy and that is plenty good enough.