Anybody got any info/comparisons/patterns, good or bad, on the Rem. Ventilator .655?
Using a 870 Express 28" barrel.Winchester lead loads #6(some #5)in the Longbeards,Supreme black box,and grey box Super X.
Thanks.
Best kept secret on the market! Shoots lead and hevi-13 great. I have two of those chokes myself
PM scdxt! I saw what his 1187w ventilator did with the grey box Winchester 6s.
Don't worry. Ol' brad will be along shortly to help you out with this choke
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Bought one last week and can't wait til I get to pattern it.....
I have the same set up as you have, 28" with same choke and I shoot the 17/8 oz super x win #6. Will put 125 in 10" at 40 yds. The win. 17/8 oz. #6 in the black box will do just a little better but not much. Keep the barrel clean and use a drill bit to keep the holes in choke clean. just turn the drill with hand, don't use an electric drill. cluck
Where can you find these for sale ? I know someone posted a link on here a while back but I cant find it and wanted to order one.
Quote from: campcreekfarm on February 19, 2014, 07:23:21 PM
Where can you find these for sale ? I know someone posted a link on here a while back but I cant find it and wanted to order one.
Here you go....
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/956890.htm
How do you guys think the winchester long beards would pattern out of the venilater?
Quote from: Ruger M77 on February 19, 2014, 08:13:03 PM
How do you guys think the winchester long beards would pattern out of the venilater?
Guys,
I can't say anymore than what I already said on here about the Rem Ventilator .655 choke for Rem guns. I'll say it in a nutshell for all to see here. If there is a better $25 choke out there on the market that was ever made in the past or currently being made, I sure in the heck don't know of it. You can compare chokes that cost $40, $50, $60, or even $70 or more to the Ventilator choke shooting most turkey loads whether it be lead or Hevi-13, and I would put my money on the Ventilator if you figure the price for only $25 shipped. And even if you throw the price out of the equation, I myself would still put my money on the Ventilator for 10" numbers at a taped 40yds.
I'll say this while I am on the subject. The only choke that I have had to beat the Ventilator for 10" numbers for max total shot in the 10" was the MAD Max .675 choke which was made by Indian Creek. And I ain't gonna say that it would even beat it consistently. That was only a few of the Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's I shot at the time to compare. I have owned a Indian Creek .668 and Pure Gold .670 and neither would out do the Ventilator .655 for 10" numbers if that will convince you more on what I am saying. I have shot both Jelly Head .660 and .665 and in my 28" barrel 870 and the Ventilator would smoke them. But I know others who love these chokes in their 870 barrels. More power to them. I can only say what I know worked in mine.
ILIKEHEVI-13 thats good to hear.Ive been shooting a older Stardot choke out of the 870 12(when I use it)and while it was adequate,it was just that,adequate.Best I could ever muster at 40 with Winchester lead in #6 was 85-90.Not terrible by any means but it just lacked that density for some extra wiggle room.Ive been looking for that choke that gives the little extra push to 40+/-.Not looking for patterns that look like screen doors like several of the HTL 7 setups do,just a really nice workable hunting pattern.
No problem at all. I had a Star Dot .665 choke in my 21" barrel I had at the time before I traded it for this 28" barrel I now have that shoots so much better and it wasn't much to put it bluntly.
I will tell you this choke is a superb Hevi-13 3" 1.75 oz choke, too.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/medium/DSCF00631.jpg)
Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's will do right around 280 or so with older loads in the 10" with this choke.
Quote from: jakesdad on February 19, 2014, 08:40:09 PM
ILIKEHEVI-13 thats good to hear.Ive been shooting a older Stardot choke out of the 870 12(when I use it)and while it was adequate,it was just that,adequate.Best I could ever muster at 40 with Winchester lead in #6 was 85-90.Not terrible by any means but it just lacked that density for some extra wiggle room.Ive been looking for that choke that gives the little extra push to 40+/-.Not looking for patterns that look like screen doors like several of the HTL 7 setups do,just a really nice workable hunting pattern.
ILIKEHEVI13 is right.... For the money its hard to find a choke that shoots like this one. And they look nasty sticking out that barrel....
I never shot any lead through my Ventilator, but the guy that told me about this choke who also told me about the Star Dot for the 835 by the way said that it was a super lead choke and Hevi choke, too. He said the Ventilator was one of the best lead chokes he has shot in his Rem guns. I gave my Ventilator to my friend Mark's son. He loves it.
Says for leadshot only on the choke.
Quote from: Oconeeguy on February 19, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
Says for leadshot only on the choke.
You need to read some more of my posts on this matter.
:agreed:I just ordered one one, waiting on it to arrive, have hevi-13 #6, mag blends and win gray box # 6's to pattern in it
Quote from: Oconeeguy on February 19, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
Says for leadshot only on the choke.
These chokes were built and designed before hevi was ever invented. That lead only is to keep some idiot from running duck loads in it.
Quote from: scdxt on February 19, 2014, 10:10:03 PM
Quote from: Oconeeguy on February 19, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
Says for leadshot only on the choke.
These chokes were built and designed before hevi was ever invented. That lead only is to keep some idiot from running duck loads in it.
Thank you!
I made a post on here about this topic. But I can't seem to find it. Maybe you or someone else can quote my post for me and post it here.
Some guy was asking if you could shoot Hevi-13 through a Ventilator choke?
I found that post. A guy was wanting to know if you could shoot htl through a Rem Super Full .665 choke. My answer below is still the exact same answer for shooting htl through a Rem Ventilator .655 choke as well.
Ok let's stick with the facts. I read some of what was posted above. Now here's the truth. That Rem Super Full choke is a .665 choke. It was made prior to all the Hevi-Shot craze and said lead only for a reason at the time it was made. It was to prevent shooters from using steel shot loads like duck or geese loads through it which may cause the choke to split due to the hardness of the steel shot. I don't know the specifics of the steel used on the choke. A lot of choke makers now use 17-4(ph) stands for pre-hardened, stainless steel. Now I'm gonna guess that choke was either made from that or a chrome moly steel like some other chokes were made from during that time frame or some that are still made from it today. Now can that choke fail shooting Hevi-13 loads through it? Yes it can. Any choke can fail shooting Hevi-13 loads through it. The chance of it ever happening to you...well I'll just say you probably got a better chance of being hurt or killed in a car accident, getting struck by lightning, drowning or getting cancer than for that choke to ever fail while you are shooting factory loaded Hevi-13 loads through it.
Now that's about the truth.
Now later on Remington offered a Rem Hevi-Shot choke that was .675 at the time. I doubt that choke was made out of any different steel than the Rem Super Full choke. At the time the Rem Hevi-Shot .675 was made, it was thought that .675 was the ideal choke diameter for Rem Hevi-Shot loads. It was later on that theory was later proven to not always be the case in a lot of scenarios with various Hevi-Shot loads. Several folks now use chokes all the way down to .643 on the SSX chokes for certain guns and other choke makers make chokes from .650 all the way up to above .675 for using Hevi-Shot with. But like I stated above that most choke makers now in this day and age are using 17-4 stainless steel to make their chokes from. But that don't mean the old moly steel chokes won't shoot Hevi-Shot through them safely.
The Lohman Long Shot and MAD Max chokes made about during the same time will shoot Hevi-Shot and they said lead only as well on them. Look at the old Star Dot chokes. On the back of my package, it says lead shot only. Now how many folks shoot Hevi-Shot through them? I have yet to hear of one fail with them. I don't know if they were made from moly steel or stainless steel. But just throwing that out there. The owner of Colonial Arms, Betty McDonald would more than likely be able to answer that question.
got one one my 870 express 26" barrel and with Winchester HV #5's it will put em down at 45-50 yards... ive shot quite a few at 45 yards with this set up
Rem870sm/ventilator .655/ 26" bbl
*professionally polished barrel
160-170 in a 10 @ 40 Win XX 3/2/6's Pb
260-280 in a 10 @ 40 Hevi 3/2/7's
*just got Win LB's 3 and 3.5/6's. Should be a killer with the LB's.
*bought a bunch of boxes of XX when I turned my best numbers to date with Pb. (170's.) Killed a couple of turkey's at 35-40 with the XX combo. Bad medicine.
I just ordered one
Awesome choke, it is one of my favorites. Lee
And I wanted to add something to what I left out above. The Rem Hevi-Shot .675 choke was also made to be .010 bigger in exit diameter at the time it was made for the Rem Hevi-Shot loads to supposedly allow a little more room for the hardness of this shot going through the choke vs using the Rem Super Full .665 choke. But Rem said that at the time the Rem Hevi-Shot .675 choke was made that optimum patterns were obtained in their tests using this .675 choke with Rem Hevi-Shot loads. Like I said with all the current Hevi-13 loads on the market depending on the size shot used of course that is not the case anymore if it was in fact the case then.
I haven't gotten the results presented here with the ventilator and 26" 870 I've got. Seemed overchoked on most patterns, splotchy and inconsistent, lead 5&6s, Hevi 6s and blends, no 7s. Still playing with mine.
QuoteI haven't gotten the results presented here with the ventilator and 26" 870 I've got.
Me either. My barrel is 28". My Ventilator hasn't put up big numbers with any shell.
What I have liked, is that the Ventilator throws nice even 13" 35 Yard patterns with small shot sizes like #6 and #7.5 Lead in my 870. It seems too tight for #5's, whereas .665 seems just about right.
Hevi13 #6's shot pretty well through my Ventilator, but didn't put up huge numbers.
"What I have liked, is that the Ventilator throws nice even 13" 35 Yard patterns with small shot sizes like #6 and #7.5 Lead in my 870."
This is exactly what i'm looking for in a choke.I'm more intersted in rollin heads than I am in counting holes.Real anxious to try the ventilator in my 870 when it comes and the weather warms up.
Guys,
A lot of the results will depend on the quality of the shells. Find you some of the older Hevi-13 #7's and you will see what I am saying to be true. I don't know about the new Hevi-13 loads. But you can't fault the choke unless you know you are shooting some of the good stuff in Hevi-13.