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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: cohuttariverrat on February 16, 2014, 08:37:04 AM

Title: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: cohuttariverrat on February 16, 2014, 08:37:04 AM
So Im struggling this year getting my hands on fed hw #7 without paying shipping. The fed rep at the convention said that basspro had good stock of them the fri night of the convention. Well saturday about 4pm the shelf was empty besides Fed hw #6. and 2.75 #7. So I picked up 2 boxes of #6. Can anyone give me a estimate of what to expect with the #6 if my gun was shooting in the 150's @ 40yd with the #7's?
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: mossyoakpro on February 16, 2014, 08:39:09 AM
Great question!!  I am considering giving the 6's a whirl myself....BPS was stocked up heavy on them Saturday.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: BandedSpur on February 16, 2014, 08:42:40 AM
Just based on number of pellets in those shells, if the 6s shoot with the same efficiency as the 7s, you would be looking at 113. I would pay the shipping for the 7s. The 6s are a vastly inferior shell. They have a huge surplus of energy at the expense of pattern density.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: SCDieselDawg on February 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
I walked this road last year. I found a surplus of HWT 6s locally and wanted to give them a go. My gun is a 26" 870. I searched around here on OG and was told to try the 6s with a unported .575 Carlson.  I haven't spent much time patterning this setup but I have shot it some. I've had it go 130-140 at 40 yds.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: owlhoot on February 16, 2014, 09:48:29 AM
Have to just try them.
I have a box too so just warm up and give them a shot.
Have 160 in  the tens with the 7's. Probably wont do that good with 6's.
But if they pattern good in the ten with that density they would be nasty.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: owlhoot on February 16, 2014, 09:55:39 AM
Well then 130-140 with these should work good  :icon_thumright:

Sorry SCDD , should have took the warning a checked the post.

Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: cohuttariverrat on February 16, 2014, 10:00:56 AM
Thanks guys! Suppose to get up to 67deg this weekend here so maybe this nasty winter is coming to an end.  I will continue the search for 7's just can't justify paying $15 to ship 2 boxes. Don't understand why basspro doesn't stock the 3in #7's online. This month they are offering free shipping also
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: stringtalker on February 16, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
There are more ammo than the federal #7's. My 20 gauge shoots the heavy 13's #5's better than the federal #7's. If you have a good even shot count in a 10 inch circle at 30-40 yards, then shoot it. the larger shot packs a mean punch anyway, but i went back to lead shot, the HTL loads aint woth 5 dollars a round, its just crazy. 98% of my turkeys are killed within 30 yards if you can call even just a little. There is no reason to try to find a gun that shoots at 40, 50 60 yards. We are shooting shotguns not rifles. Good hunting
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on February 16, 2014, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on February 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
I walked this road last year. I found a surplus of HWT 6s locally and wanted to give them a go. My gun is a 26" 870. I searched around here on OG and was told to try the 6s with a unported .575 Carlson.  I haven't spent much time patterning this setup but I have shot it some. I've had it go 130-140 at 40 yds.

130-140 at 40 yards with HW 6's is a REDICULOUSLY GOOD pattern for those shells in a 20 gauge and if I were you I'd buy up every #6 load in that I could find!!!  Even If you mis judge the range by a yard or...10, there isn't a turkey alive that will survive a load of those things. 
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: SCDieselDawg on February 16, 2014, 08:10:17 PM
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on February 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
I walked this road last year. I found a surplus of HWT 6s locally and wanted to give them a go. My gun is a 26" 870. I searched around here on OG and was told to try the 6s with a unported .575 Carlson.  I haven't spent much time patterning this setup but I have shot it some. I've had it go 130-140 at 40 yds.

I'll be honest that was one shell just to see if the choke was worth it. I need to shoot some more to check repeatability. I've got some new chokes and a bunch of these 6s. So it won't be long till I figure out something definite.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: savduck on February 16, 2014, 08:56:20 PM
Ive got a couple of boxes of the fed 6s. At forty out of three chokes. I shot 110, 113, and 119.

Thats sumtoy, ssx, and pure gold tempest 570.


I love my 7s, but wouldnt hesitate to hunt turkeys with those patterns with the sixes. They were all very evenly spread. There are some states that dont allow 7s.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: surehuntsalot on February 16, 2014, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on February 16, 2014, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on February 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
I walked this road last year. I found a surplus of HWT 6s locally and wanted to give them a go. My gun is a 26" 870. I searched around here on OG and was told to try the 6s with a unported .575 Carlson.  I haven't spent much time patterning this setup but I have shot it some. I've had it go 130-140 at 40 yds.

130-140 at 40 yards with HW 6's is a REDICULOUSLY GOOD pattern for those shells in a 20 gauge and if I were you I'd buy up every #6 load in that I could find!!!  Even If you mis judge the range by a yard or...10, there isn't a turkey alive that will survive a load of those things.


I have shot some of the HW 6's through my .575 Carlson in a 21" barrel 870 youth model  putting up 110-120 (very good hunting patterns)
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on February 17, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
Quote from: surehuntsalot on February 16, 2014, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on February 16, 2014, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on February 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
I walked this road last year. I found a surplus of HWT 6s locally and wanted to give them a go. My gun is a 26" 870. I searched around here on OG and was told to try the 6s with a unported .575 Carlson.  I haven't spent much time patterning this setup but I have shot it some. I've had it go 130-140 at 40 yds.

130-140 at 40 yards with HW 6's is a REDICULOUSLY GOOD pattern for those shells in a 20 gauge and if I were you I'd buy up every #6 load in that I could find!!!  Even If you mis judge the range by a yard or...10, there isn't a turkey alive that will survive a load of those things.


I have shot some of the HW 6's through my .575 Carlson in a 21" barrel 870 youth model  putting up 110-120 (very good hunting patterns)

We have the same setup, so I just might have to pick some up!  If I could get 110+ I'd buy up every round I could find and if I could get 130-140+, they's go with me on every future western hunt I ever went on!  Lol  I found a TON of the 6's at a local sporting goods store for super cheap but didn't pull the trigger on them...yet and I think Dunn's has a butt load of them too for way cheaper than the 7's.  Hmm...go figure...
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: savduck on February 18, 2014, 10:46:56 PM
The kinetic energy of the sixes is unreal. 110 to 120 is a sledge hammer. I'd shoot them all day long and never skip a beat.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: Captaintopwater on February 19, 2014, 07:06:57 AM
My 26" 870 with the ssx loves the HW 6s, but so far has just been so so with the 7s.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on February 19, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
Quote from: Captaintopwater on February 19, 2014, 07:06:57 AM
My 26" 870 with the ssx loves the HW 6s, but so far has just been so so with the 7s.

Well what's that tell ya?!  Lol.   If you're getting good patterns with the 6s I wouldn't even bother with the smaller shot, especially if they aren't patterning as good.  Like somebody already said...this 6s in a good pattern are a sledge hammer! 
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 19, 2014, 11:44:54 AM
Bass Pro currently has free shipping on their website.  Order from them!! :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: cohuttariverrat on February 19, 2014, 04:31:13 PM
Well tomorrow is suppose to be 71deg here. Im gona give em a shot. I will be shooting a Mossberg bantam 20 with undertaker choke then a tightwad choke. I'll post some numbers if anyone is curious. Im with you guys about getting above 110 at 40yd. If it gets in the 130's I will probably strut and drum around in my yard until the wife tries to shoot me
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: savduck on February 19, 2014, 09:37:31 PM
Fellas dont get caught up in the numbers game. A good even pattern with 100 pellets at 40 is gonna rip ones face off at that distance and more with these shells. If all you can get is sixes, they are way better than 8 out of 10 other 20 ga choices.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: R AJ on February 19, 2014, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: savduck on February 19, 2014, 09:37:31 PM
Fellas dont get caught up in the numbers game. A good even pattern with 100 pellets at 40 is gonna rip ones face off at that distance and more with these shells. If all you can get is sixes, they are way better than 8 out of 10 other 20 ga choices.

We need a hammer on the nail head icon for this one. :z-winnersmiley:

Let's think about some of these numbers as what will work.  I don't order a steam roller to take out an ant but it will definitely do the job.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: surehuntsalot on February 19, 2014, 10:27:53 PM
I know it doesn't go here,but since we are on the subject
   .565 Truglo GSX      Federal HW#6's
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/sr5865/S4021458.jpg)
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on February 20, 2014, 12:28:31 AM
Quote from: savduck on February 19, 2014, 09:37:31 PM
Fellas dont get caught up in the numbers game. A good even pattern with 100 pellets at 40 is gonna rip ones face off at that distance and more with these shells. If all you can get is sixes, they are way better than 8 out of 10 other 20 ga choices.

:you_rock:   :you_rock:   :you_rock:
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: cohuttariverrat on February 21, 2014, 07:14:27 AM
Well I got a chance to shoot 1 shell of #6 yesterday. I got 109 at 40yd and it was a nice even pattern. Good enough for me! Im not hung up on numbers but that sure is better than the 60 to 70 that lead gives me
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: savduck on February 21, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
You hold that bead on a gobbles head that load will kill em a lot further than we talk about on this board.
Title: Re: Fed HW# 6 ?
Post by: SCDieselDawg on April 25, 2014, 11:56:55 AM
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on February 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
I walked this road last year. I found a surplus of HWT 6s locally and wanted to give them a go. My gun is a 26" 870. I searched around here on OG and was told to try the 6s with a unported .575 Carlson.  I haven't spent much time patterning this setup but I have shot it some. I've had it go 130-140 at 40 yds.

I'm going to apologize publicly for being seriously incorrect with the above post. I've since shot this gun and cannot replicate the numbers I originally posted. I have read over the notes that I collect after each patterning section. I honestly do believe that I mixed my info from 7s with 6s. I'm am truly sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

My accurate results trend along with everybody else in the 100 range.