Like many here, I have been dreading the implementation of obamacare and all of the "surprises" it would bring. (We have to pass this thing to find out what's in it...)
Aside from my 40 hour day job, I have delivered pizza for a local Pizza Hut restraunt for the past 3 years. My hunting buddy encouraged me to give it a try as a way to make some extra money, as he had driven and managed Pizza Hut restraunts for about 15 years. I found it to be a break from my day job, a way to put some cash in my pocket and have a couple hundred dollars extra every 2 weeks. All in all, it hasn't been bad.
Tuesday evening, one of the managers asked if she could talk to me outside for a few minutes. We went outside and she shared with me that Pizza Hut has decided to make some changes in their pay structure for drivers. (It wasn't sounding good already.) When I was hired, they were paying minimum wage, you kept all of your tips, and they paid anywhere from $1.15 down to about $.80 per delivery, depending on the price of gas and if you took more than one delivery on a "run". About a year ago, new drivers came in making minimum wage while in the store, but made only $4.25 while clocked out on delivery runs. I told myself I wouldn't even consider working for that...
ANYWAY, the manager explained that Pizza Hut (YUM brands, who also owns Taco Bell) has decided that in order to "stay competitive" they are going to have to cut the pay of all drivers hired prior to their pay schedule change back to that of current drivers. In other words, due to no fault of my own (or the other drivers, some who don't have other jobs) we will be taking a $3 per hour cut in pay while we are driving, which is about 3/4 of the hours we are on the clock.
As you can imagine, I was not a happy camper. I asked for the number of someone higher up in the Pizza Hut management to find out more information and express my frustration. They let me read a couple of pages of company issued "Talking Points" for managers to share when they told employees they would be taking a $3 per hour cut in pay. I couldn't help but think of how the government tries to convince us that all of the "hope and change" is going to be good for us as I read the "Talking Points" sheets. Yesterday I contacted the Arkansas general manager for Pizza Hut and talked with her for about 20 minutes. She tried to re-hash the information I had been allowed to read (was written for managers eyes only) and make the situation sound much better than it was. If I was a teenaged kid, I might have swallowed the swill and not asked any questions. I explained that I wasn't real thrilled about having to do the same job for $3 less an hour. She again tried to convince me that my tips and their mileage "reimbursement" (far less than the federally allowed $.565 per mile) helped to offset the cut in pay. I reminded her that I was already receiving that money, so it basically amounted to Pizza Hut keeping about $75 more out of every paycheck I would receive. About then is when she told me that Pizza Hut has been evaluating this change and trying to avoid it for the past 3 years (about when I started there) and basically it resulted from the changes coming from... DRUM ROLL PLEASE... "obamacare".
I have now officially been personally impacted by obamacare. I now like it a whole lot less than before... if that were possible...
I will be praying and considering over the next couple of weeks if it's going to be worth messing with anymore. After getting used to having the extra money, it would be an adjustment not having it available.
Expect little nuggets of Obamacare to pop up everywhere over the next several years. >:(
I'm sick of it...I pay over $ 600 a month now for family healthcare insurance thru my employer...which is probably not bad in this day and age...I am expecting it to go up to about $ 900 when Obamacare kicks in and who knows if the company will even offer healthcare at that time.
Nearly every US citizen alive today will at some time in their future be denied coverage and treatment for something that they could have gotten today. You are going to wait months for treatments you could have gotten in a matter of days today. It is going to set health care in this country back decades and people are going to die of things they could have been treated for today.
Quote from: Skeeterbait on May 23, 2013, 11:05:35 AM
Nearly every US citizen alive today will at some time in their future be denied coverage and treatment for something that they could have gotten today. You are going to wait months for treatments you could have gotten in a matter of days today. It is going to set health care in this country back decades and people are going to die of things they could have been treated for today.
agreed
When this junk passed and was signed into law my wife and I knew things were about to get really bad for us financially. My wife has MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Fibromyalgia and is a cancer survivor. Each month she receives a treatment for her MS and with that she is able to enjoy a fairly normal quality of life. At the beginning of the very next year when her deductible was 2500.00 it jumped to 4800.00 and we see it as only going higher as that junk law continues to crawl forward and eat up the nations earnings.
But as with all things we believe that our Lord will provide in someway and so far that has been the case.
Rick
Osamacare is a disaster. This plan makes healthcare so unaffordable that most companies will drop healthcare alltogether and pay the yearly fine for not haveing it because it's cheaper. Another nail in the coffin for this country. This administration is by far the worst i have seen in my time. Another phase of this plan is showing up on new patient forms at doctors offices, such as they now ask how many guns you own on the form! Outrageouse what does that question have to do with healthcare? I personally refuse to answer that question as it is none of their bussiness. There are some bad times ahead and i pray for all people who did'nt vote this idiot into office. If this was the old days osama would be strung up for treason!
Rick, that is awful. You pay 4,800 dollars for treatment that the gooberment gives to an illegal in the country for free! I have a seriouse problem with that, best of luck to you and your wife.
Quote from: Skeeterbait on May 23, 2013, 11:05:35 AM
Nearly every US citizen alive today will at some time in their future be denied coverage and treatment for something that they could have gotten today. You are going to wait months for treatments you could have gotten in a matter of days today. It is going to set health care in this country back decades and people are going to die of things they could have been treated for today.
Only the bottom-rungers in American society will be better off. I was at a cook out and drinking a couple of beers a while back and chatting with a physician that has hospital privileges. He told me point blank that the sorriest people in society that make their living being free riders get approval and get to see specialists faster under Medicaid than insureds and HMO patients do. If you play by the rules, work, pay your way, and have insurance, you end up getting screwed by the liberals' "Losers First" policies.
I work in the medical field. Distribution manager for a orthopedic implant manufacturer . We sell and ship nationally and to 40 foreign countries. Part of the Obama care is a medical device tax. To avoid a tax that would take one third of our profits we are moving our foreign sale and distribution over seas. I'm having to lay off 10 guys with families. We will lay off 7 to 10 more in customer service.
I work for a county fire dep't. I can't wait to see what next year's health insurance is going to be and cost me. Everything about the Muslim in Chief has been a disaster for America. >:(
It's already cost me about $75 per month in insurance premiums and more increases are expected.
I can't handle this much CHANGE, and sure HOPE it gets undone real soon!
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on May 23, 2013, 09:03:23 PM
I work for a county fire dep't. I can't wait to see what next year's health insurance is going to be and cost me. Everything about the Muslim in Chief has been a disaster for America. >:(
Could not have said it any better.....
my local hospital just anounced that they are laying off 80 full time employees due to obama care.
Do you work for PHI corporate or a franchise? Pizza Hut International is the parent company and owns company stores. Most of the stores in the U.S. are owned by local franchises.
Quote from: Muzzy61 on May 23, 2013, 08:43:33 PM
I work in the medical field. Distribution manager for a orthopedic implant manufacturer . We sell and ship nationally and to 40 foreign countries. Part of the Obama care is a medical device tax. To avoid a tax that would take one third of our profits we are moving our foreign sale and distribution over seas. I'm having to lay off 10 guys with families. We will lay off 7 to 10 more in customer service.
Is it an American company?
Is production of the devices done in America?
I certainly hope that the company will publicize its decision so that the idiots in the country that voted for Barry and Joe and support their policies receive an education on the law of unintended consequences.
Quote from: Turkey Trot on May 24, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: Muzzy61 on May 23, 2013, 08:43:33 PM
I certainly hope that the company will publicize its decision so that the idiots in the country that voted for Barry and Joe and support their policies receive an education on the law of unintended consequences.
Liberalism is a mental disorder. There is no cure. They can not be educated. No matter what happens it will not be there fault. People who voted for him the first time but not the second time will vote for someone just like him in the future. They voted aganst obama for one reason or another, not aganst liberals. Don't be fooled. The pubicans in office have no intention of changing anything. They just want control of it. "well...they repealed obamacare 5 times" OH HOW SWEET. They would have you believe the House has no power. And looks like most people do. And there are plenty enough pubicans to help democrats stomp any conservitive that gets any traction. And how many people who claim to be conservitive fell for Romney hook, line, and sinker. " Houston, we have a problem" :help:
Quote from: nystrut on May 24, 2013, 08:06:18 AM
my local hospital just anounced that they are laying off 80 full time employees due to obama care.
Yeh, THAT ought to help our healthcare. ::) This is already the largest single tax burden placed on the American people, as defined by the Supreme Court. :help:
Quote from: Turkey Trot on May 24, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: Muzzy61 on May 23, 2013, 08:43:33 PM
I work in the medical field. Distribution manager for a orthopedic implant manufacturer . We sell and ship nationally and to 40 foreign countries. Part of the Obama care is a medical device tax. To avoid a tax that would take one third of our profits we are moving our foreign sale and distribution over seas. I'm having to lay off 10 guys with families. We will lay off 7 to 10 more in customer service.
Is it an American company?
Is production of the devices done in America?
I certainly hope that the company will publicize its decision so that the idiots in the country that voted for Barry and Joe and support their policies receive an education on the law of unintended consequences.
It is an american company. Our founder is an orthopedic surgen who started his buiness in his garage 26 years ago here in North Florida, and still operates 2 days a week.. We have grown to a 350 million dollar company with 8 global offices. We produce the implants and instruments here in the USA. For the last 5 or 10 years some of the Directors have tried to get him to move some of the manufacturing over seas to save money. He has refused every time. But this damn medical device tax has finally forced him to. It's really sad....
REP have gas and DEM have healthcare between the two the working class people are screwed. If you think this is bad don't ever close your 401 account. I had to and talk about taking it MAN you really get screwed but hey look what we get from it. High cost of living, less money in the pay check, gay rights and more workers coming. My wife worked most of her life and due to medical issues can't work and more but was denied disability said she didn't meet their requirements, but a crackhead,dope smoking, drunk is good to go. It's a great system we have. More like a :TrainWreck1: :TrainWreck1:
Its gonna get much worse -Sad part is that your level of service will be steeply degraded , and your costs will go sky high
Waiting rooms are going to be slammed full with all same folks that have been exploiting welfare for decades very soon - In Canada , you have to wait months to get critical operations performed on you -brace yourselves for the biggest scam to ever be perpetuated on the taxpayer -
I think as the law starts to set in , votes will start to peel off the democrats , hopefully we can get enough conservatives in there to throw this bill away - until that day happens heathcare will become more and more expensive and will degrade in service level - except of course for the spongers of society , - heathcare just got a whole lot better for them
I can say for certain that my hc premium increases (10% last year and 7% this year) is a direct result of obamacare, the insurance companies received a hell of an increase in profit margin. Health insurance companies are making money hand over fist because of this travesty. There was nothing wrong with our healthcare prior to this idjit being elected, the problem was and is with insurance companies, especially when they dictate to a doctor what care they will provide to a patient.
For years the insurance companies were protected by republicans and now they are in bed with the democraps the worst part is they (and the oil companies) are also in the back pocket of every American who has investments, retirement plans or a pension. We demand our investments grow so we gain wealth, money in one pocket, and in order to do that the insurance and oil companies must make a profit from their consumers (us) which means money out of the other pocket. Meanwhile beaucrats in Washington have exempted themselves from paying for insurance, are involved in insider trading and have the ability to vote themselves raises.
Until 'We the People' rise up and take back our government and set it to operate as the founding fathers initially established, we will continue to erode. This sounds like the end-all-be-all solution but the problem is our population is too large and we would never be able to agree on the best course of action.
That is a enough to make a guy puke. Sorry to hear this. I just hope we don't get another one just like him. If you weaned out welfare, foodstamps and all the other federal income that the democrats shell out to those folks that are basically living off the gov't these guys like Obama would'nt come close to getting elected. That is what is wrong with America. Too many folks living the good life for nothing. Well hell no wonder they vote for guys like Obama. And we the people that are the working class pay their free ride. It's time it ended.
If you don't have enough brains to take care of yourself, you're supposed to die. Its the way this world is set up. Its the way other species survive. But along come the liberals. Oh we have to take care of these people and make sure they have food and water and shelter and medical so they can lay up and screw and make more idiots to vote. I never saw anybody that worked hard and tried to do right become dissabled and nobody would help them. Good people will help good people. If it was left that way good people would survive and bad people wouldn't be able to multiply so fast.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on May 26, 2013, 02:12:14 AM
That is a enough to make a guy puke. Sorry to hear this. I just hope we don't get another one just like him. If you weaned out welfare, foodstamps and all the other federal income that the democrats shell out to those folks that are basically living off the gov't these guys like Obama would'nt come close to getting elected. That is what is wrong with America. Too many folks living the good life for nothing. Well hell no wonder they vote for guys like Obama. And we the people that are the working class pay their free ride. It's time it ended.
The frustrating part are the folks that are directly effected negatively by this administration also voted for these jokers. It just makes no sense!!! But, not much is rational when dealing with the liberal mindset.
:TrainWreck1:
Obama is a disaster, enough said. Anything he does or stands for is bad medicine to this country. He attacks everything most of us stands for and what our grandfathers, fathers, brothers, sons has fought and died for. Just my 2 cents.
Quote from: Turkey Trot on May 24, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: Muzzy61 on May 23, 2013, 08:43:33 PM
I work in the medical field. Distribution manager for a orthopedic implant manufacturer . We sell and ship nationally and to 40 foreign countries. Part of the Obama care is a medical device tax. To avoid a tax that would take one third of our profits we are moving our foreign sale and distribution over seas. I'm having to lay off 10 guys with families. We will lay off 7 to 10 more in customer service.
Is it an American company?
Is production of the devices done in America?
I certainly hope that the company will publicize its decision so that the idiots in the country that voted for Barry and Joe and support their policies receive an education on the law of unintended consequences.
They won't learn anything. Any being capable of rational thought would not have voted for them, they are hopeless.
Sent from a gnarly phone with a kickstand
Back to the original post: What needs to happen is for all the drivers to quit. If you can't make money, there is no point in doing it. Let the corporation purchase and provide vehicles and employees to drive them, and see how that works out for them.
As for Obamacare being the "reason" for these changes, I suspect in reality, it is more of an "excuse" to do so. As always, corporate America is trying to pay for increased expenses by taking it away from their employees, never the stockholder or management.
I have been feeling the effects of "Obama" care since 2008!!!!
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on May 26, 2013, 02:12:14 AM
That is a enough to make a guy puke. Sorry to hear this. I just hope we don't get another one just like him. If you weaned out welfare, foodstamps and all the other federal income that the democrats shell out to those folks that are basically living off the gov't these guys like Obama would'nt come close to getting elected. That is what is wrong with America. Too many folks living the good life for nothing. Well hell no wonder they vote for guys like Obama. And we the people that are the working class pay their free ride. It's time it ended.
x10
Check out the analysis on Zerohedge about how well expert freeriders can do versus people working.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/entitlement-america-head-household-making-minimum-wage-has-more-disposable-income-family-mak
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-27/when-work-punished-tragedy-americas-welfare-state
Ok, that article just raised my blood pressure. :angry9:
That is ridiculous!!! :z-dizzy:
Quote from: Turkey Trot on May 30, 2013, 04:58:35 PM
Check out the analysis on Zerohedge about how well expert freeriders can do versus people working.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/entitlement-america-head-household-making-minimum-wage-has-more-disposable-income-family-mak
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-27/when-work-punished-tragedy-americas-welfare-state
That's even more sickening.