Good?
Bad?
Ugly?
Gonna go with the Hevi shot tube since I have gotten such great results from it in my 20 gauge and Hevi-13 #7's
I prefer straight 6's but the Magnum Blend keeps coming up everywhere.....I need a little input on them please. And no I don't believe that 75 yard bologna they have on their marketing....that is rediculous. They will be used in the normal 40 yard and under setting.
Thanks!!
In my 835 with a 20 inch barrel I use the hevi choke tube and mag blends and get a great even pattern. Numbers chasers can beat it all day with straight 7s but I have had great luck with them in the field. Really bloodies some heads. Hope this helps, I will use them until they are gone.
Good: They produce some excellent patterns in my Old 11-87 21" barrel.
Bad: They are expensive.
Ugly: What they will do to a turkeys head!
Bass Pro Shop had them on sale a couple weeks ago, may still. I purchased a couple boxes because I had just used the last of my Nitro's on an Ol Kentucky long beard. They pattern nearly as good as the Nitro's through my .660 Rhino.
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If you had two ounces of #7 shot it would be enough to cover all the 40 yard shots and slam every turkey out there.
So you want less numbers of shot in larger sizes than needed for what purpose?
These are still great shells and they do the job, so not the worst decision in the world.
I just want some gobblers that gobble on a consistent basis that will respond to my calls.( A rare find this year in Bama land.
If your gonna shoot a 20GA, stick with the straight 7's even if it means you have to order them.
+1....there is a reason #7 are harder to find...and likely need to be ordered....they are the best
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Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 27, 2013, 09:48:59 AM
If your gonna shoot a 20GA, stick with the straight 7's even if it means you have to order them.
I forgot to mention...these will be for 12 gauge use....I shoot the straight 7's in my 20.
Thanks for the replies so far!!
Quote from: RAJ on April 27, 2013, 09:05:20 AM
If you had two ounces of #7 shot it would be enough to cover all the 40 yard shots and slam every turkey out there.
So you want less numbers of shot in larger sizes than needed for what purpose?
These are still great shells and they do the job, so not the worst decision in the world.
I just want some gobblers that gobble on a consistent basis that will respond to my calls.( A rare find this year in Bama land.
You and me both buddy....I am trying for a single season GS and cannot manage to kill an Eastern. Very little if any gobbling and no response to calls.
I would shoot straight7s if it was legal here. Up until last yr we were only allowed to use 4, 5, or 6 shot here in De. Now we can shoot 7 1/2 shot as long as there is 4, 5, or mixed with it.
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You and me both buddy....I am trying for a single season GS and cannot manage to kill an Eastern. Very little if any gobbling and no response to calls.
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Same here. Very little gobbling and birds that won't commit. The worst season I have ever seen.
I shoot MagBlend in my 12 ga. SX3 and get 253 hits average @40 yds. with about 60 hits in the vitals. They knock em in the dirt too.
Quote from: cahaba on April 27, 2013, 06:35:32 PM
You and me both buddy....I am trying for a single season GS and cannot manage to kill an Eastern. Very little if any gobbling and no response to calls.
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Same here. Very little gobbling and birds that won't commit. The worst season I have ever seen.
I shoot MagBlend in my 12 ga. SX3 and get 253 hits average @40 yds. with about 60 hits in the vitals. They knock em in the dirt too.
The Magblends I had in 12GA 3" and 3.5" were pretty lousy. The 3" were the worst. I tried 2 different chokes at a taped 40yds with the 3" magblends and got 125 with the Haymker .670 choke and 156 with the Super Max choke out of my 870. The Moss 835 with Star Dot choke that shoots the Hevi-13 3.5" #7 loads so well did I think 190 with the 3.5" magblends. Nothing to brag about. These were the newer loads out this year.
Kelly at Hevi-Shot told me that magblends are 1/3 of each 5's, 6's, and 7's. So since I know that, that means there is nowhere near the amount of shot as the straight 7's. So really getting patterns over 220 shot would probably be rare at a true 40yds. It could be some of the older shells had more 7's than the newer loads, too.
My 870sm with the Hevi choke really like the 3.5" Mag Blends. It shot a little over 200 at 40.
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on April 27, 2013, 08:16:50 PM
My 870sm with the Hevi choke really like the 3.5" Mag Blends. It shot a little over 200 at 40.
And really that is probably a very good pattern with the Magblends.
I'm not gonna call folks a liar, but after I know that Magblends have 1/3 of each 5's 6's and 7's, and folks that say they are getting these high pellet counts of 230 or more, well I just say do the math when 250 to 270 are excellent patterns for straight Hevi-13 7's in 3" and 3.5" at a true 40yds in a true 10" circle. So something is'nt adding up with all these high counts. I know some shells will shoot better than others, but not by that much. 190 in the 10" was what my 835 and Star Dot choke did with the 3.5" magblend. Now it could be the Star Dot didn't like them like it does the straight 3.5" Hevi-13 #7's. And I only shot one shot. But that should have gave me a decent sample. I wasn't impressed. Stuck a 3.5" 2.25oz #7 load in the 835 with the Star Dot choke and got 300 shot in the 10".
Magnum blends are amazing. Plain and simply. I easily get 230+ in a ten inch circle out of my mossberg and my Beretta extrema. In the past two weeks I have seen 3 Gobbler and two coyotes fall to mag blends and the extrema with one of the coyotes running at 50+ yards. The magnum blends do have a lot of 7's in the shell, but they are shooting 1200fps instead of 1090 of the standard load. I recently stocked up on magnum blends and will be shooting them for the next few years
Well my point is no they don't have a lot of 7's. They have only a 1/3 of 7's from what you would get with straight 7's. The rest are 1/3 of each of 5's and 6's. So I got to question a lot of these higher pellet counts or the actual yardage that guys are shooting at. It's one or the other. And I will say the 3.5" magblend is the hardest kicking shell I have ever shot.
And I'm not stating that to single anyone out here. But I know a lot about patterns and numbers and what it takes to get the patterns that ones are claiming. If the number of pellets in the magblends is'nt close to the # of pellets in the straight 7's, then your not going to get close to the same patterns that guys are getting with the straight 7's. And that is a fact.
I was surprised that they broke 200 for me. Actually was 211.
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on April 27, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
I was surprised that they broke 200 for me. Actually was 211.
I would say that is really good for the magblends. That was the 3.5" loads correct?
You are correct. I also shot the 3" shells in a 21" 870 with a .660 JH that produced a 219 but I used a 12" circle on that one.
All my patterns were at a taped measured 40. I'm seeing 230+ out of 3 1/2 and 210+ out of 3". And by looking at the patterns the magnum blends are more 7's than anything else.
Well maybe I ought to send you the magblends I have left in 3" and 3.5". I doubt you would get close to them numbers. The Star Dot doesn't shoot the straight 6's that well, but with lot # 300325 of the 3.5" 2.25oz #7's I have got 361 and 360 in the 10" at a taped 40yds.
Here's the lot #'s of the magblends I was shooting.
3" magblends was lot 201141
3.5" magblends was lot 301039 the best I can read it.
I'll show you a sample of the 835 and Star Dot choke with 300325 of Hevi-13 2.25oz #7's at a tape measured 40yds.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF5071.jpg)
Now to go from that down to 190 shot in the 10" well like I said is very disappointing. And that 8" rectangle strip was where I later put a piece of 8" duct tape and traced around it with a black sharpie since a guy on another forum wanted to know how many shot could a guy put in a 8" piece of duct tape at 40yds. There's 98 shot in what would be that piece of tape. Of course I put the tape in what I thought was the densest part of that pattern.
Now grant it not all Hevi-13 3.5" #7 loads will shoot near that well. But I would say that typically 280-300 would be the norm for most of these same loads from different lot #'s out of my 835 and Star Dot choke at 40yds for 10" numbers. But that's not why I posted it. I posted it to show that my combo will shoot tremendous patterns with the straight Hevi-13 #7's in 3.5". And to shoot the same combo with the 3.5" magblends and only get 190...well which one do you think I should be shooting. My whole point was why even shoot the magblends. Years ago I learned from reloading shells that making a load to fast will spread the pattern a lot of the times. But I don't think that the 1200fps on these magblend loads is the only thing that is hurting the numbers. It's the actual number of pellets you have in each shell vs what you have with the straight 7's. It's a no brainer to me what is going on here in the 10" numbers at 40yds.
i like the magnum blends out of my gun. i will be honest and say i have never counted each little hole on the paper and i have never shot the hs#7 3.5in shells. but out of everything i have shot the magnum blends have held the best even pattern out of my combo. ive also killed every turkey ive shot at with them from 15 yards to 53 yards...the 53 yarder was further than what i thought on a lease road or id never taken that shot for ethical reasons. (yardage ranged later)
i have alot of magnum blends left and i will stay with them until i run out which should be in about 15-20 years with my current stock lol
also about my pattern i have a mueller quick shot and my poi/poa is the same and my 10 in circle is true..even though ive never counted the holes there is plenty, plenty, plenty. i guess ill count them next time i shoot a shell or two.
And by all means use the magblends if they are working for you. I know they will kill any turkey tah walks at 40yds with a good gun and right turkey choke.
But I also wanted to point out that a lot of guys need to remember when counting your 10" numbers is that I try and only count the snowman pellets as one. That's the pellets that may be a #6 or #7 and have either a smaller #7, #8, or #9 stuck to it. So I'm just pointing out it also is how you count your pellets. Typically if I have a shot that is a bigger shot or hole and a smaller hole right next to it touching that is counted as 1 shot by me which is the snowman pellet I am speaking of. If you ever remove this shot from a turkey or phonebook or any material you shoot at with thes loads, you will see sure enough of what I mean. If you have 2 shot holes touching that are approx the same size, I count that as 2. I learned this by looking at the pellets from a 3" #7 load.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 27, 2013, 10:14:14 PM
And by all means use the magblends if they are working for you. I know they will kill any turkey tah walks at 40yds with a good gun and right turkey choke.
But I also wanted to point out that a lot of guys need to remember when counting your 10" numbers is that I try and only count the snowman pellets as one. That's the pellets that may be a #6 or #7 wnad have either a smaller #7, #8, or #9 stuck to it. So I'm just pointing out it also is how you count your pellets. Typically if I have a shot that is a bigger shot or hole and a smaller hole right next to it touching that is counted as 1 shot by me which is the snowman pellet I am speaking of. If you ever remove this shot from a turkey or phonebook or any material you shoot at with thes loads, you will see sure enough of what I mean.
i tried not to be biased by stating i havent tried the 7's. lol! i do like the mag blends though. one of the reasons i havent counted the holes is for the reason you are talking about. there are too many and too many different sizes. i could tell by the pattern it was even and tighter than the other loads i tried, that being said if i had the 7's to try and they wouldve done what everyone says they do i wouldve stuck with them.
my gun will not shoot the remington nitro 4's well nor the winchester hv 6's. the thug 5's and hevi 6's was decent with the hevi 6's running a close 2nd to the mb's
i want to add that the win hv 6's and rem nitro 4's was so bad in my gun that it is very important to do some pattern testing instead of running in the store and just grabbing a box and hitting the woods.
Quote from: turkey buster on April 27, 2013, 10:25:53 PM
i want to add that the win hv 6's and rem nitro 4's was so bad in my gun that it is very important to do some pattern testing instead of running in the store and just grabbing a box and hitting the woods.
That's so true.
Thanks for your comments.
And I have some more magblends I will try later on. But 125 out of a 3" magblend load is pretty pathetic. Heck a guy might as well just shoot lead with numbers that low. I actually was shocked to see that pattern from a $70 Haymaker choke. But I did get my money back for the choke.
the 3 inch mag blends averaged 170s out of my 870 sps turkey with a jellyhead 665 those put the same numbers as what the 7 s did thats out of a dirty barrel gonna try some other chokes out this summer ive shot birds with both magblends and 7s both had plenty of knockdown power at 30-40 yards want to try and get to the 200 mark next year with magblends and id be happy have a few boxes of 7s left if anyone has any magblends they want to get rid of thinking of trying a hevishot choke any other reccomendations
I'm a mag blend fan. I have an 870 with a .665 indian creek tube and it is deadly with the magnum blends. I get 200+ hits in the 10" at lasered 40 yards consistently. I had one shot early this spring that I counted 235 in the 10". I have not polished my barrel yet. From what I can tell, the shot size is not split into thirds. There seems to be a little more of the 7s than 6s, and more 6s than 5s. I'm no expert, but that's the way it looks to me. They are moving a little faster than the straight 7s or 6s, so that's a plus as well IMO. I can't tell much recoil difference between the magnum blend and straight 6s. Federal flight control 3.5 inch 7s hurt...magnum blend doesn't for me anyway. I've killed 4 turkeys with mag blend this spring...it kills them dead. All 40 yds or closer for me so far. I try to keep it at 40, but if a guy misjudged one by a little, he'd be just fine from what I've seen. Fudge factor. Oh, those 200 + hits were coming from 3 different lot numbers, and I haven't seen a huge difference from one to another as of yet. Hopefully they stay consistent.
The 1/3 of 5's, 6's, and 7's came from me talking on the phone complaining about how bad these 3" magblends shells shot to Kelly Sorenson who is Vice President of Sales/Marketing for Hevi-Shot. That came straight from her. Kelly said all the magblends are loaded with that ratio of shot. And I could of played around with some chokes and found maybe better results with both of my guns with these loads. They in my opinion ought to do 1/2 7's, and 1/4 each of 5's and 6's. Then they would shoot a lot denser patterns. But I can't see getting 240 to 250 out the 3.5" magblends I have. Nor can I see getting 200 shot with the 3" magblends. But I may be wrong. Like I said the 3" magblends only did 125 and 156. The 156 was with a Mad Super Max .675 that has shot 297 shot in the 10" at a tape measured 40yds witha the Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's. I have gotten other patterns of 283, 264, and 250's with a lot of these same loads and different lot #'s from different chokes from my 870.
For those interested.... I just # counted my 870 Super mag 23" barrel w/ .665 Jellyhead at 40 lasered yds from tip of barrel to target. Low 60's degrees, Mag Blend put 219 hits in 10".
125 out of magnum blends is unheard of I don't think I've ever heard of anything less than 160. I've got a few boxes iv stocked up for the next few years all with different lot numbers and from what I've seen mag blends are pretty consistent from box to box. And I have shot lethal patterns at 65 yards although I'd never shoot a turkey at that distance.
I've got 24 boxes of 3" Mag-Blends but have yet to shoot any yet.
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Quote from: jrmcclure on April 28, 2013, 03:03:35 PM
125 out of magnum blends is unheard of I don't think I've ever heard of anything less than 160. I've got a few boxes iv stocked up for the next few years all with different lot numbers and from what I've seen mag blends are pretty consistent from box to box. And I have shot lethal patterns at 65 yards although I'd never shoot a turkey at that distance.
Trust me you ought to know by now I know what I am saying. Not saying you are saying that. That was with the Haymaker(Indian Creek) .670 choke. 125 shot in the 10" circle. I went and double checked my patterns the last time I shot just to be sure before I threw them away. And only 156 in the 10" from my best 870 choke which is the MAD Super Max .675. 156 is terrible. And look at how the MAD Super Max .675 choke would shoot some of the old stuff of Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's at a tape 40yds. Now granted this was probably about 3yrs ago. And temp was about the same. It was 72 degrees when I shot this one. And this is what I call a barnburner choke for my 870 28" polished barrel. And I taped that from tip of choke to target myself at exactly 120ft pulling the tape as tight as I could.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00316.jpg)
And here's the whole 20" of that pattern which was 501 shot. Now those that know patterns will know that is smokin for a 3" shell of #7's.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00185.jpg)
I dont believe the 1/3 ratio myself. I call bull on that no matter who says it, just the same as how they still say they are 13/g/cc shot. I'd be willing to bet that lot #s that are loaded during the spring have less #7s than they do the rest ofthe season due to having to load and sell so many that they dont use as many as the shells they load other times of year when they can focus more on quality rather than quantity.
Quote from: Rockhound on April 28, 2013, 11:51:50 PM
I dont believe the 1/3 ratio myself. I call bull on that no matter who says it, just the same as how they still say they are 13/g/cc shot. I'd be willing to bet that lot #s that are loaded during the spring have less #7s than they do the rest ofthe season due to having to load and sell so many that they dont use as many as the shells they load other times of year when they can focus more on quality rather than quantity.
And you probably have a point. But I would also bet money that the magblends I have shot so far with the guns I used that a lot of other guns wouldn't shoot the higher numbers that they may have shot with other blend loads that may have had more 7's in them. I think what your getting at is the variance of shot size that is sometimes produced. I don't know all of how they make this shot, but I sure would like to see some one take the 3" loads I have left and see in person a 200 10" at a true 40yds. I'd bet money it wouldn't happen.
I have a couple boxes of 3" but I've never patterned any of them. I also have a box of 10 gauge. I need to pattern and if they shoot good I'm gonna put up 10 boxes or so
I would bet a magnum blend is filled with a 1/3 of each...but with7's being the smallest it will have more of them the fill its 3rd on down to less 5's than even 6's.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 29, 2013, 01:08:13 AM
Quote from: Rockhound on April 28, 2013, 11:51:50 PM
I dont believe the 1/3 ratio myself. I call bull on that no matter who says it, just the same as how they still say they are 13/g/cc shot. I'd be willing to bet that lot #s that are loaded during the spring have less #7s than they do the rest ofthe season due to having to load and sell so many that they dont use as many as the shells they load other times of year when they can focus more on quality rather than quantity.
And you probably have a point. But I would also bet money that the magblends I have shot so far with the guns I used that a lot of other guns wouldn't shoot the higher numbers that they may have shot with other blend loads that may have had more 7's in them. I think what your getting at is the variance of shot size that is sometimes produced. I don't know all of how they make this shot, but I sure would like to see some one take the 3" loads I have left and see in person a 200 10" at a true 40yds. I'd bet money it wouldn't happen.
To clear things up. My numbers were with a 3.5" load. I'd be happy to shoot one of your 3s. Probably gonna be similar to what you saw with your gun. Who knows though. So far it's working fantastic for me...I hope they can resist the urge to monkey around with the recipe.
I think they should skip the 6's, and load 65% #7's and 35% # 5's.
Quote from: turkey buster on April 29, 2013, 07:20:17 AM
I would bet a magnum blend is filled with a 1/3 of each...but with7's being the smallest it will have more of them the fill its 3rd on down to less 5's than even 6's.
Yea but what I'm getting at is spring time when handloaders are buying #7s by the 7 lb bag and nitro rah orders a few hundred pound you never know what you might get
Yea but what I'm getting at is spring time when handloaders are buying #7s by the 7 lb bag and nitro rah orders a few hundred pound you never know what you might get
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I got ya
Your right that if they are using a 1/3 recipe on each with the blends that natrurally since the 7's are lighter there will be more of them to equal the 1/3 like the 5's and 6's. But what I also didn't state is there are some 5's and 6's already in the straight 7 loads of Hevi-13. I say this because the I dug them out of the turkey I shot back in 2010. I think I dug out 23 shot or so and posted a picture of it. Some of them that were buried way deep in the breast of the brid looked almost as big as proably a #4 lead. But all the shots looked like to me that they shot plum throuh the neck of the bird aond out the other side. And I will just say that turkey was a good 40yds and few extra for misjudging.
I do think they need to just dump the 5's altogether, and go with what the one guy said like 2/3 7's and 1/3 6's or 3/4 7's and 1/4 6's. They would pattern way better if they did for hits at 40yds for 10 and 20" numbers.
But I honestly believe that the folks(customers) callling Hevi-Shot about offering them a blend of say 5, 6, and 7 shot would be the best of both worlds is the reason why Hevi-Shot went to offering the Magblends. They probably had no choice to give those customers what they ask for even if they really and truly didn't need it. And it could be that Hevi-Shot came up with this idea themself. But think of all the folks that used to talk a bout making a blend years ago. There is truth in numbers is what I say. I'm sure Hevi-Shot got flooded with calls and emails to do this.
But at least now I have tested the blends and seen what they would do. I have a few more boxes to test later as well. I'll try some different chokes like the Hevi-Shot choke and Pure Gold in my 870 and see how the other 3" Magblends with a diffrent lot # than this one will do. I do believe I can improve on the 156 that I got with the MAD Super Max .675. The Hevi-Shot choke is .662 and the Pure Gold is .670. Maybe the blends want a little tighter choke. But typically from what my pattern experience has taught me shooting lead over the years that the larger shot will like a little more open choke. But that isn't written in stone.
Great chatting with you guys on this topic.
Brad
I don't shoot Magnum Blends, but I shoot HWT 6's & 7's, Hevi 6's & 7's and Nitro Blends in both 2x5x7 and 4x5x7.
If you can consistently place the core of your pattern on a gobblers head and neck I don't care which of them is in your gun that turkey is dead! I would like to try the 3.5" Mag Blends in my 935, but with a stock of Nitro's and Blue/Gold Fed's I probably won't.
Brad - I am surprised your 835 shot them poorly, but from what I have seen here if a gun won't shoot 6's it won't shoot Mag Blends. I know I shot one Mag Blend one Hevi 6 in my 20 and compared the two. At a taped 40 yards, the Blends went 129 and the 6's went 138.
Quote from: Daman on April 29, 2013, 04:52:19 PM
I don't shoot Magnum Blends, but I shoot HWT 6's & 7's, Hevi 6's & 7's and Nitro Blends in both 2x5x7 and 4x5x7.
If you can consistently place the core of your pattern on a gobblers head and neck I don't care which of them is in your gun that turkey is dead! I would like to try the 3.5" Mag Blends in my 935, but with a stock of Nitro's and Blue/Gold Fed's I probably won't.
Brad - I am surprised your 835 shot them poorly, but from what I have seen here if a gun won't shoot 6's it won't shoot Mag Blends. I know I shot one Mag Blend one Hevi 6 in my 20 and compared the two. At a taped 40 yards, the Blends went 129 and the 6's went 138.
Well the 835 did get 190 out of the 3.5" magblend load from the Star Dot choke. I was expecting better. I did shoot a 3.5" Hevi-13 2.25oz #6 load from the 835 and Star Dot and got 180. But I never said my gun wouldn't shoot 6's. I have said it just don't shoot them nearly as dense at the 7's.
I think it was last year I did get 243 shot out of the 835 with MAD Max .680 choke using a Hevi-13 3.5" 2.25oz # 6 load at a tape measured 40yds. But I could not get near that on the 2nd shot. So I do think the capability for the 835 to shoot 6's is there, I would just need to find the right choke. But a lot of the outcome of the results I'm gonna guess is coming from the variance of the size of shot from load to load. And that's even if it is the same lot #. Now granted some lot #'s tend to shoot a lot better than others from shell to shell and are pretty consistent, but that's not saying all lot #'s will. But I think it goes back to what rockhound was saying earlier. But my bet is when Hevi-Shot loads these Hevi-13 loads on their ammunition lines that the shot just keeps getting mixed with the old stuff that is getting low. So in time the mixture could be a lot different from week to week or month to month depending on who is actually making this shot.
My gun loves 3.5 hevi 7s and will shoot over 300 everytime but so far this season I know of 7 birds total that have fallen to magblends and these were mostly with the 3 inch shells. My gun will do over 200 with the magblends so honestly I dont think it will matter too much which shell I put in there when shooting a turkey at 40 or less. I can say that the majority of the birds that I did see killed with mag blends did not even flinch after they were hit. To me it comes down to whatever I pull out of my vest that day because I know that my gun will shoot it well if it is in my vest. In my mind you cant go wrong with magblends if you get a decent pattern with all the power behind the shot the blend in sizes.
The higher velocity of those heavier shot is what makes the mag blends so popular. Its like shooting deer with a 243 win vs a 300 mag. I agree that witn a good dense pattern you are gonna kill a turkey under 40 regardless if its with the hs mb's or the hs 7's. Ford vs Chevy boys. :lol:
Quote from: turkey buster on May 02, 2013, 09:45:25 AM
The higher velocity of those heavier shot is what makes the mag blends so popular. Its like shooting deer with a 243 win vs a 300 mag. I agree that witn a good dense pattern you are gonna kill a turkey under 40 regardless if its with the hs mb's or the hs 7's. Ford vs Chevy boys. :lol:
The straight HS-13 loads were rated at 1090fps and the Mag Blends were 1200fps the last time I looked. Best case, it's a 110fps difference.
From my experience with my chrony, I've found the straight loads to be pretty close and the Mag Blends to be considerably slower than spec. Real world has been 50fps or so at the muzzle. IME, it's hardly a .243Win vs .300Win comparison.
On a different note, unless they've changed the formula this year, the Mag Blends aren't 1/3 each of #5, #6s, and #7s. I cut four shells of four lots a couple from 2011 and 2012. I found less than an ounce combined of #5s and #6s. Average was around 3/4oz.
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Quote from: turkey buster on May 02, 2013, 09:45:25 AM
The higher velocity of those heavier shot is what makes the mag blends so popular. Its like shooting deer with a 243 win vs a 300 mag. I agree that witn a good dense pattern you are gonna kill a turkey under 40 regardless if its with the hs mb's or the hs 7's. Ford vs Chevy boys. :lol:
The straight HS-13 loads were rated at 1090fps and the Mag Blends were 1200fps the last time I looked. Best case, it's a 110fps difference.
From my experience with my chrony, I've found the straight loads to be pretty close and the Mag Blends to be considerably slower than spec. Real world has been 50fps or so at the muzzle. IME, it's hardly a .243Win vs .300Win comparison.
On a different note, unless they've changed the formula this year, the Mag Blends aren't 1/3 each of #5, #6s, and #7s. I cut four shells of four lots a couple from 2011 and 2012. I found less than an ounce combined of #5s and #6s. Average was around 3/4oz.
K maybe a 243 vs 300 was an over estimate but it was just a point that they both do the job and one just a little harder. :z-guntootsmiley: