I'm truly ashamed this guy is our president. He's not my president.
And then he says that a minority of senators don't want to protect our children. He's a joke to our country to try and even use children to wage his war on our gun rights. That's why we Americans want our guns to protect our family. Now go to your corner and cry some more.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-slams-senators-opposed-gun-measure-215613530--politics.html
He jams his Obamacare down our throats and gets all pissy when his gun control attempts fail.. He's done enough damage. 2016 can't get here fast enough if it isn't too late already.
Quote from: alclark2 on April 18, 2013, 01:44:51 AM
He jams his Obamacare down our throats and gets all pissy when his gun control attempts fail.. He's done enough damage. 2016 can't get here fast enough if it isn't too late already.
I hear ya pal.
But the American folks will probably put another silly democrat in as president. I just hope it isn't Biden.
He lives in his own little idealogical world.He just doesn't get it and never will.He is an arrogant,shameless,useless politician that will use anything or anybody to further his agenda.The people who put this imbecile in office,and all the ones like him,get what they deserve.The reason it didn't pass WAS the will of the people,and b.o. can't take his views being rejected,like some spoiled little snot that doesn't get his way.He and his croneys only care about free speech when it's THEIR speech,we are to stupid to think for ourselves in their eyes.It angers and sickens me to no end that he is using those familys and memories of those poor children to suggest that somehow you and i are responsible for the act of an evil insane person.I am extremly fearfull for our country's future with not only people like him,but those who vote them into office over and over.Rant over...ward
And further more,we have a representative form of goverment.The senators/congressmen/women we elect are supposed to represent the will of the people from the region they are from,not the will of the democratic/republican/independent partys.And its sad that a couple of citys can decide the fate of a whole state,or a few states with high population densitys decide a national election.I am pretty sure when the founding fathers set up our system that they didn't envision what our goverment would become.Supposed to be a balance of power between the States and the Federal goverment,and that balance has been slowly tipping to the feds ever since the civil war.People need to be active/pay attention to your state goverment/local goverment elections.Don't rely on "sound bites" to glean your knowledge on canidates,the mainsteam media has become a propaganda machine for those who believe in socialism/nanny state.Ok no more coffee for me lol! rant over and out!..ward
Once again, he stands at his podium and lies to the American People and belittles those who stand against him and his socialistic agenda.
Where is the left wing journalist reporting on the atrocities in Chicago? Why isn't he talking about the state of his home town?!!!!
Newtown, CT
Nineteen of 20 Newtown children are white. All of a sudden the 2nd amendment should be repealed or altered.
Chicago children are mostly black. The media is silent about Chicago violence.
WHY?
Chicago: 446 school age children shot last year with strongest gun laws in country the media is silent.
The cesspool known as Chicago probably has the toughest gun laws in the country, yet despite all the shootings, murders, and bloodshed, you never hear a peep about this from the corrupt state run media.
In Chicago , there have been 446 school age children shot in leftist utopia run by Rahm Emanuel. 62 school aged children have actually been killed by crazed nuts in Chicago so far this year.
So why isnt this news worthy?
Is it because it would embarrass those anti second amendment nuts who brag about Chicago's tough gun laws?
Is it because most of the kids who were shot and killed were minorities?
Or is it because the corrupt media doesn't want to show Chicago in a bad light?
THE LIST OF MURDERED SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN IN 2013
18 YEARS OLD- 15
17 YEARS OLD- 16
16 YEARS OLD- 16
15 YEARS OLD- 6
14 YEARS OLD- 4
13 YEARS OLD- 2
12 YEARS OLD- 1
07 YEARS OLD- 1
06 YEARS OLD- 1
446 School Age Children Shot in Chicago so Far Last Year THE LIST OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN SHOT IN 2012
18 year old -110
17 year old - 99
16 year old - 89
15 year old - 62
14 year old - 39
13 year old - 21
12 year old - 10
11 year old - 2
10 year old - 3
09 year old - 1
07 year old - 3
06 year old - 2
05 year old - 1
04 year old - 1
03 year old - 1
01 year old - 2
So why isnt this news worthy?
The Political Leaders in Illinois;
All Democrats!
President: Barack Hussein Obama
Senator: Dick Durbin House
Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.
Governor: Pat Quinn
House leader: Mike Madigan
Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
Mayor: Rahm Emanuel
There is a reason why that party has a donkey as their symbol.
Think of the other word for donkey. ^-^
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Obama, is a waste of good fresh air.
:agreed:Great post Fallsflight!Hit the nail on the head with that.They like to constantly say the reason their gun laws don't work is because guns are coming in from the outside were gun laws are lax.Well if that is true why isn't there high gun crime rates outside of the city?No,they will only stop when they take all guns,they have wanted this for 40 years and they will never stop.And it's not about guns per se,its merely the vehicle on the road to absolute power.Every piece of legislation that bo/libocrats wants to pass increases that power and consolidates it.Your freedom dies the death of a thousand cuts.All disgused as "common sense", an ironic phrase coming from people who have none.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 18, 2013, 02:16:14 AM
Quote from: alclark2 on April 18, 2013, 01:44:51 AM
He jams his Obamacare down our throats and gets all pissy when his gun control attempts fail.. He's done enough damage. 2016 can't get here fast enough if it isn't too late already.
I hear ya pal.
But the American folks will probably put another silly democrat in as president. I just hope it isn't Biden.
I got a feeling it will either be Hillary or Cuomo. We are never going to get them out of the whitehouse until we stop giving out handouts. These people that live off the system along with all the gay rights activists, abortion activists, tree huggers, etc. are all selfish & put their wants ahead of the greater good of the nation. Until we stop this, the mindless sheep are still going to vote in the DEMs b/c they don't want the gravy train to stop. I have no use for Democrats at all....... >:(
One thing I know for sure. "Things would be a lot different if I were in charge" :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
It should be a requirement that in order to vote you must be a taxpayer.People who put no skin in the game shouldn't be allowed to play,period.
So he didn't get his way and it's time to point fingers and cry...sign of a real leader.
Quote from: the Ward on April 18, 2013, 09:52:08 AM
It should be a requirement that in order to vote you must be a taxpayer.People who put no skin in the game shouldn't be allowed to play,period.
It was that way long ago. The founders had it set up so if you were a land owner you got to vote. Now generations latter its all changed . If we give you fee tax payers money vote for me. Sicking. I would understand if you have did your time , your skin had already been in the game , walfare needs fixed.
I got a feeling it will either be Hillary or Cuomo. We are never going to get them out of the whitehouse until we stop giving out handouts. These people that live off the system along with all the gay rights activists, abortion activists, tree huggers, etc. are all selfish & put their wants ahead of the greater good of the . Until we stop this, the mindless sheep are still going to vote in the DEMs b/c they don't want the gravy train to stop. I have no use for Democrats at all....... >:(
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My thoughts exactly. Believe it or not, there are still a lot Obama supporters that feel he is the best president this country has ever had. Why? Because they have made comfortable lives for themselves by living off his policies and the government teet.
I am still waiting to see the internet and gun show loophole all the media keeps talking about...
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 18, 2013, 01:37:21 AM
I'm truly ashamed this guy is our president. He's not my president.
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That about sums up my feelings. He's a pathetic excuse for a human being.
In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the
University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always
temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until
the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous
gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority
always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from
the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a
dictatorship."
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200
years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
The Obituary follows:
Born 1776, Died 2012
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in
St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning
the last Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Obama: 19 Romney: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 Romney: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory
Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens
of the country.
Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low
income tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population
already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million
criminal invaders called illegals - and they vote - then we can say
goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
I got this in an email from a friend. I believe they must disarm us first and they are running into a little trouble in that area.
Even if a republican does get in in 2016 it will take years to correct the mess that has been made the past 5 years. Imagine what the next 3 is going to be. They can't even agree to disagree agreeably. haha. Very discouraging as a tax paying citizen.
1. Demand "a vote"
2. get said vote
3. realize it's not the vote you wanted
4. blame the system
5. throw a temper tantrum
A perfectly reasonable response from the President of the United States.
^^^ Very True Bama
My grandma told me that in all the years of living through all the presidents she couldn't recall a single one pointing the finger and throwing a tantrum like Obama.
He accuses the NRA of using dead children to further their cause, then he uses dead children to further his cause (childrens' parents at the announcement)...He says because of special interest groups, the legislation was defeated.He doesn't mention that the NRA is made up of individual citizens (you and me). He doesn't mention Mayors against illegal guns (a special interest group). He mentions the 40% lie (a survey taken in the early 90's before the NICS system was in place and the survey was conducted asking around 200 people their opinion). Then he cites the 90% lie...Maybe 90% of the people who were asked agreed to background checks. I guess you could find 90% of people who agree with your issue if you ask the right 100%!
Here's something a friend sent:
Gents
It's a given that the government desires to know who has what regarding guns. Good governments (UK & Australia) and bad (NAZI Germany and the USSR) have used registration records to facilitate confiscation.
Below is the legality of registration in the US. It's interesting that a convicted felon cannot be convicted of failing to register a gun :You can, they can't. Now tell me who registration can be used against and why?
Kevin
Haynes v. United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Haynes v. United States
Supreme Court of the United States
Argued October 11, 1967
Decided January 29, 1968
Full case name Miles Edward Haynes v. United States
Citations 390 U.S. 85 (more)
88 S.Ct. 722; 19 L.Ed.2d 923
Holding
Haynes' conviction under 5851 for possession of an unregistered firearm is not properly distinguishable from a conviction under 5841 for failure to register possession of a firearm, and both offenses must be deemed subject to any constitutional deficiencies arising under the Fifth Amendment from the obligation to register.
Court membership
Chief Justice
Earl Warren
Associate Justices
Hugo Black · William O. Douglas
John M. Harlan II · William J. Brennan, Jr.
Potter Stewart · Byron White
Abe Fortas · Thurgood Marshall
Case opinions
Majority Harlan
Dissent Warren
Marshall took no part in the consideration or decision of the case.
Wikisource has original text related to this article:
Haynes v. United States (390 U.S. 85)
Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), was a United States Supreme Courtdecision interpreting the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution's self-incrimination clause. Haynes extended the Fifth Amendment protections elucidated inMarchetti v. United States, 390 U.S. 39, 57 (1968).[1]
Contents [hide]
1 Background of the case
2 Majority opinion
3 See also
4 Further reading
5 References
[edit]Background of the case
The National Firearms Act of 1934 required the registration of certain types of firearms. Miles Edward Haynes was a convicted felon who was charged with failing to register a firearm under the Act. Haynes argued that, because he was a convicted felon and thus prohibited from owning a firearm, requiring him to register was essentially requiring him to make an open admission to the government that he was in violation of the law, which was thus a violation of his right not to incriminate himself.
[edit]Majority opinion
In a 7-1 decision, the Court ruled in 1968 in favor of Haynes. Earl Warren dissented in a one sentence opinion and Thurgood Marshall did not participate in the ruling.
As with many other 5th amendment cases, felons and others prohibited from possessing firearms could not be compelled to incriminate themselves through registration.[1][2] TheNational Firearm Act was amended after Haynes to make it apply only to those who could lawfully possess a firearm. This eliminated prosecution of prohibited persons, such as criminals, and cured the self-incrimination problem. In this new form, the new registration provision was upheld. The court held: " To eliminate the defects revealed by Haynes, Congress amended
The above and the fact that blatant violations in places like Chicago and D.C. are not prosecuted paints an entirely different picture than the one this admin. would paint!
Good start would be to deport 20 million illegal aliens from the U.S. that will be future voters if allowed amnesty.
i would hate to be president of this country bc this country is so far gone.....theyll never get my guns