Turkey hunting with a bow out of a pop up blind is ABSOLUTELY UNWATCHABLE. If you must bow hunt, how about trying to kill one Indian style (sans tent)...?
Sincerely,
Every turkey hunter.
Don't knock it til you've tried it, its pretty fun
I would much rather watch a hunter call a turkey in close and watch him execute a hard shot than watch clip after clip of turkeys being shot at 40+ yards. But that is just me and I can relate to blind hunting because I bow hunt and love to work turkeys close. If you run and gun a lot then I can understand how it can seem boring.
There's a lot of guys that would say the exact opposite - that killing em at 40 yards with several hundred projectiles launched at them at once isn't particularly challenging...
I would be happy if I could just watch a " HUNTING" show.Today's shows for the most part are nothing more than 30 minute commercials.
Shooting turkeys out of a blind with a bow or gun is not fun to me and i hate watching it on tv as well.
some of us like brunettes or blonds, others red heads
Quote from: jwhunter on February 19, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
Shooting turkeys out of a blind with a bow or gun is not fun to me and i hate watching it on tv as well.
some of us like brunettes or blonds, others red heads
Love those red heads!! :gobble: I hunted out of a blind once with a kid and his dad. I didn't like it and didn't like the idea of teaching the kid to do that. I wound up calling in the boys first gobbler while we were sitting by a tree later that season. He shot it with my 835 and he had to pick his hat up off the ground ;D
Quote from: redarrow on February 19, 2013, 11:01:24 AM
I would be happy if I could just watch a " HUNTING" show.Today's shows for the most part are nothing more than 30 minute commercials.
I DVR them. Only way to watch hunting shows is if you can fast forward through all the crap.
Quote from: ridgerunner on February 19, 2013, 11:32:44 AM
Don't speak for every turkey hunter....I don't feel the same and know many accomplished hunters who would disagree with your assessment ...don't paint with such a broad brush Rio.. To each his own..if its UN watchable....simple , don't watch. :popcorn:
Knew that was coming...
I was speaking in hyperbole, fellas.
However, I will throw more gasoline on the fire..(I'm bored):
Bowhunting out of a blind is nothing more than target practice. Being a good shot is a requirement, but being a good turkey hunter isn't...
Notice I didn't say all bowhunters are bad turkey hunters...but not a lot of skill is required to do what they're doing on some of these TV shows.
If a person wants to bow hunt turkeys I am fine with that, and do not care if they use a blind or not (not my style but I do not have anything against it). Thinking about giving it a go one day myself. I agree that watching a bow kill turkey on tv is boring, to me, but so is someone shooting them with a shotgun in a blind and decoys (understand this makes for the best footage for television). Just not for me. Live in person with a bow is probably a totally different story!
Quote from: Rio on February 19, 2013, 12:52:02 PM
Quote from: ridgerunner on February 19, 2013, 11:32:44 AM
Don't speak for every turkey hunter....I don't feel the same and know many accomplished hunters who would disagree with your assessment ...don't paint with such a broad brush Rio.. To each his own..if its UN watchable....simple , don't watch. :popcorn:
Knew that was coming...
I was speaking in hyperbole, fellas.
However, I will throw more gasoline on the fire..(I'm bored):
Bowhunting out of a blind is nothing more than target practice. Being a good shot is a requirement, but being a good turkey hunter isn't...
Notice I didn't say all bowhunters are bad turkey hunters...but not a lot of skill is required to do what they're doing on some of these TV shows.
Have you ever bow hunted turkeys???
IMO, there is A LOT more skill needed to kill a turkey with a bow than there is to pull a trigger with a 3 or 3.5 load flying at them at 1200 fps...
Again, just my opinion
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Hunting shows in general are unrealistic for most hunters, not all of can get on prime land loaded with birds due to exceptional food plots and management, or can even afford to pay to go on these types of hunts, we don't have groups of guys scouting for us or even have the money to set up a perfect permante blind somewhere, we hunt high pressured public land where skills and miles on the boots get the game, where good calling and years and years of knowledge are passed down. I only truly watch hunting to shows for that 1 min tips and tricks section and sometimes u don't even get that. Let's have a show where one guy does all of his own scouting and prep and has to hunt public land that isn't loaded with prime food plots and only allow 5 to 10 hunters a year on it.
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As far as hunting with a bow, that is cool, as far as hunting out a blind, to each his or hers own. Not a good idea to down others because of their choice. If you don't like it just don't do it, if you don't like watching it on the t.v. then just don't. I myself am going to hunt out of a blind this Spring due to health issues, gonna wait till I see the hairs on top of his head though, don't do shots over 40 yards...
Quote from: pappy on February 19, 2013, 01:34:15 PM
As far as hunting with a bow, that is cool, as far as hunting out a blind, to each his or hers own. Not a good idea to down others because of their choice. If you don't like it just don't do it, if you don't like watching it on the t.v. then just don't. I myself am going to hunt out of a blind this Spring due to health issues, gonna wait till I see the hairs on top of his head though, don't do shots over 40 yards...
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Have used a blind in the past,dont care for it,felt restricted on vision and hearing.That being said,this spring being my sons first year,we WILL use a blind.I dont feel its teaching them the wrong way or the easy way,I think the effect is just the opposite.I feel it keeps them interested longer(dont have to sit so still,can read a book,etc)and allows success to be somewhat easier,thus giving them a spark to keep em at it.Once they get a little older and have experienced some success/failure then let them decide which way they prefer.And yes TV "hunting" shows for the most part stink.Not realistic for the average guy at all.
Either way, those guys are getting paid (for the most part) to hunt turkey. Can you say the same for yourself?
Bow hunting turkeys is one of the hardest things I've ever done, blind or no blind.
Bow hunting for coyotes might be the hardest!!
As to any videos, I pretty much hate them all, mostly because it's not me on the video, and if I'm watchin' on TV, that means I ain't out hunting....
I do buy the Primos videos each year, kind of a tradition. #24 is pretty good I think....
mudhen
Quote from: Dray223 on February 19, 2013, 03:43:20 PM
Either way, those guys are getting paid (for the most part) to hunt turkey. Can you say the same for yourself?
I might not get paid cash wise but I sure do get paid when I base it on love/enjoyment for the hunt, tranquility and enjoying the beauty of nature itself (it would be nice to have the money to but the other reasons trump that for me). :toothy12: :toothy12:
Quote from: Dray223 on February 19, 2013, 03:43:20 PM
Either way, those guys are getting paid (for the most part) to hunt turkey. Can you say the same for yourself?
No. I get paid to hunt ducks and geese.
I hunt turkeys out of spite.
IMO bow hunting turkeys is the ultimate challenge for a turkey hunter. Blind or no blind. You are very restricted in opportunities when it comes to set up, cover, and getting on the turkeys in general. You aren't very mobile so you must make the turkey do what you want him to do. And that to some people is the ultimate challange. Now I also know guys that hate blind hunting and run and gun all the time with very good luck and to them that is the ultimate rush. It is a difference in ideaologies in this great sport of turkey hunting.
Im a run and gun man,and thats the bottom line. I have hunted out of blinds and hate it.But like its been said before that just MHO. There for I dont watch it on tv or particapate in hunting turkey in blinds.I enjoy chasing them through the woods trying to spark one lonley gobbler to respond.And as far as 40 + yard shot....booo get them close and watch the feathers fly from a 2 1/4 ounce of shot.
Quote from: Rio on February 19, 2013, 04:02:14 PM
Quote from: Dray223 on February 19, 2013, 03:43:20 PM
Either way, those guys are getting paid (for the most part) to hunt turkey. Can you say the same for yourself?
No. I get paid to hunt ducks and geese.
I hunt turkeys out of spite.
Do you Duck hunt out of a blind or in a pit?
If so then you sir are a hypocrite with the 1st post you made starting this thread!
Most importantly is that we are all TURKEY HUNTERS. The anti's love to see any bickering between hunting groups. To each their own hunting is hunting, and I embrace it all.. Remember divided we fall, just as the lion hunters in California did when they still had a season (traditional archers Vs modern archers). It's all GOOD!!!!
Hmmmmmmm
I am a new member and this is my first post, but i do have an opinion.
As far as watching the programs on tv that bow hunt out of "tents" hey man just don't watch them!
I have this same argument with one of my best friends and avid turkey hunters and IMO (and i have killed birds both ways) hunting turkeys out of a pop up requires far less skill than the good old fashion way. The bottom line is you can get away with waaaaay to much and still bring em in with good decoys and calls. How many birds have ya"ll killed playing on your phone, reading a magazine or standing up several times to stretch your legs from sitting on a uncomfortable chair without a pop up?
Now, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it at all, but i would like to see someone bow hunt sans "tent" one day. Ive challenged my buddy many times, but its like a crutch for him and he wont do it.
Just my .02 cents
Watching bowhuntin for turkeys is like watchin Earnest Goes To Camp without Earnest ;D
I would guess that bowhunting for turkeys from a blind can be compared to playing golf. It is chalenging and fun to those who do it, but boring to watch on tv to those who don't.
Rio,
So do you hunt out of a blind while hunting waterfowl? Due to no response I believe so. Do you hunt deer out of a "tent?" No response needed on that one. Do you use camo? Plastic ultra-realistic decoys? Hell, if you think everyone that hunts with a bow needs to do it without a blind why do you use one yourself on other species? Have you killed a turkey with a bow? Hard to speak about something with NO experience on it IMO. I think that whatever floats you boat is great but don't knock others that do it differently especially when you have zero experience on how they do it. I personally believe that getting a gobbler to commit to the decoys (yes, I use them), and shooting them at LESS than 10 yards with a longbow (out of the dreaded "tent") is challenging and ask everyone here if they disagree. I also shoot them without a blind with a shotgun so I CAN see both sides of the fence on this.
That song "Online" by Brad Paisley comes to mind but the difference between me and everyone else on here is that I know you. BTW great first post!
I hope everyone here has a great Spring however YOU decide to hunt!
It is the decoys, not the blind, that take most of the challenge out of it.
Charlie, of course I hunt ducks out of a blind. That's how you hunt ducks!! That's how ducks have been hunted since the beginning of time.
As for turkey hunting, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I'm guessing most Indians weren't packing a Double Bull.
In my original post, I merely stated hunting out of a tent doesn't make good TV, and that is a scientific fact!
As for the rest of this thread, that escalated quickly! I mean that really got out of hand. Brick killed a guy.
As I said before, not all bow/tent hunters are bad hunters. HOWEVA, there is no way anyone can make a lucid, intelligent, well thought out argument that this style of hunting requires a fraction of the skill that traditional hunting does. These guys on TV put their tent in a known strutting area, throw out 3 or 4 decoys and wait for a bird to come fight their Killer Dirty B. Hell, there's a show called Wild Outdoors with Jay Gregory where they try to exclusively shoot birds in the head with a bow. Does my "target practice" theory hold water in that case?
I have a buddy that has a lease in Rocksprings who invited me turkey hunting a few years ago. We all woke up the next morning, got dressed, drank coffee, etc....this cat rolls into the kitchen wearing blue jeans, a black short sleeved t-shirt, and a black cap. He went to the closest clearing to the roost (which also had a feeder in it), played on his iPhone and smoked a pack of cigarettes. He also killed two turkeys. Matter of fact, he killed his 4 turkey limit every year he was on that lease. Now tell me, would you consider someone like him to be a "good" turkey hunter? Not bashing the guy....he's a friend of mine, and I appreciated the invite, but if he had invited any of y'all with the stipulation you had to hunt out of a blind would you have been overly excited about it?
It is a legal method of taking a turkey. So is shooting them with a rifle in some states.....wouldn't want to see a hunting show on that either. Not my bag, baby....
Turkey hunting is a shotgun sport IMO. ;D I personally dont use blinds but if someone wants to, thats thier business. I'm an old school type of guy no blinds or decoys. I also like to get them in close.
Who cares how someone else likes to hunt? Personally I like hunting in or out of the blind. 90% of my turkey hunting is with my dad. We live 15 hours a part. So for us, getting out in the woods, sitting in a blind allows us to talk and joke around a bit that we couldn't do on the open ground. We like to video tape the hunt and have a good thermos of coffee in the morning and just enjoy our favorite hobby together. If that offends some people, or if you don't think it's the "right" way I couldn't care less. All I know is that as soon as the trip is over, we spend all year talking on the phone about the next year's turkey hunt. We love it that much and hunting together has made us very close. I have other hunting buddies down here, but there's nothing like sharing a pot of coffee with the old man while we sit in a blind, listen to the birds on the roost and have a good time watching them come in to decoys and put on a show. We even get a kick when that lonely hen comes walking in to !@#$ slap the crap out of his DSD hen... I wouldn't have it any other way.
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Falg_Cv1Er4&context=C4abbc99ADvjVQa1PpcFNHTBVxlGorpi1FGOU_0SmT4-5u5bvUlsE=
Quote from: Rio on February 21, 2013, 12:47:38 AM
Charlie, of course I hunt ducks out of a blind. That's how you hunt ducks!! That's how ducks have been hunted since the beginning of time.
As for turkey hunting, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I'm guessing most Indians weren't packing a Double Bull.
Man I wish I knew your duck hunting setup... Cause I'm pretty sure 100 years ago they weren't using 3.5" HM loads, spinners, a boat load of fancy decoys, fancy boats, fancy waders, highly developed choke tubes, nice warm blinds with stoves to cook breakfast... etc. And I bet since your a duck guide that you have a couple $100 Echos or RNTs....
Pretty sure they way you hunt ducks IS NOT the way it's been done since "the beginning of time".
Just try bow hunting turkeys out of a "tent" and see how easy it is.
Quote from: totallycluckedup on February 21, 2013, 09:30:22 AM
Who cares how someone else likes to hunt? Personally I like hunting in or out of the blind. 90% of my turkey hunting is with my dad. We live 15 hours a part. So for us, getting out in the woods, sitting in a blind allows us to talk and joke around a bit that we couldn't do on the open ground. We like to video tape the hunt and have a good thermos of coffee in the morning and just enjoy our favorite hobby together. If that offends some people, or if you don't think it's the "right" way I couldn't care less. All I know is that as soon as the trip is over, we spend all year talking on the phone about the next year's turkey hunt. We love it that much and hunting together has made us very close. I have other hunting buddies down here, but there's nothing like sharing a pot of coffee with the old man while we sit in a blind, listen to the birds on the roost and have a good time watching them come in to decoys and put on a show. We even get a kick when that lonely hen comes walking in to !@#$ slap the crap out of his DSD hen... I wouldn't have it any other way.
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Falg_Cv1Er4&context=C4abbc99ADvjVQa1PpcFNHTBVxlGorpi1FGOU_0SmT4-5u5bvUlsE=
Now this.....I'll hand it to ya....best reason yet to hunt out of a blind
Quote from: jhcats10 on February 21, 2013, 09:39:38 AM
Just try bow hunting turkeys out of a "tent" and see how easy it is.
I just told you how easy it was! Didn't you read my post? My buddy killed two turkeys
while playing Angry Birds and rocking an AC/DC t-shirt.
Argue all ya want. I'm right...lol.
Quote from: Rio on February 21, 2013, 09:47:41 AM
Quote from: totallycluckedup on February 21, 2013, 09:30:22 AM
Who cares how someone else likes to hunt? Personally I like hunting in or out of the blind. 90% of my turkey hunting is with my dad. We live 15 hours a part. So for us, getting out in the woods, sitting in a blind allows us to talk and joke around a bit that we couldn't do on the open ground. We like to video tape the hunt and have a good thermos of coffee in the morning and just enjoy our favorite hobby together. If that offends some people, or if you don't think it's the "right" way I couldn't care less. All I know is that as soon as the trip is over, we spend all year talking on the phone about the next year's turkey hunt. We love it that much and hunting together has made us very close. I have other hunting buddies down here, but there's nothing like sharing a pot of coffee with the old man while we sit in a blind, listen to the birds on the roost and have a good time watching them come in to decoys and put on a show. We even get a kick when that lonely hen comes walking in to !@#$ slap the crap out of his DSD hen... I wouldn't have it any other way.
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Falg_Cv1Er4&context=C4abbc99ADvjVQa1PpcFNHTBVxlGorpi1FGOU_0SmT4-5u5bvUlsE=
Now this.....I'll hand it to ya....best reason yet to hunt out of a blind
Yep, that's what I was thinking. Only reason I've seen that I'll agree with. I don't bowhunt turkeys, mainly due to how many I know my "archery purist" neighbors have boogered and I found dead on my land. But, it's not illegal, so I can't do much about it. As far as watching it on TV...... not a fan.
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It's like golf. I might enjoy doing it...but I don't like watching it on TV.
If its legal and you like to hunt them like that then by all means... thanks for the support for the hunting community. Different strokes for differnt folks. I view bow hunting turkeys with a bow one of the more challenging hunts to try. I prefer a run n gun style but I hunt out of a blind in the rain. It seems to me that if you know where they strut and you setup on them with a shotgun its easier to kill them. I've watched a guy on an old team realtree video shot a bird wiht a bow from the ground in a ghillie leaf suit. I was impressed. I support all legal methods of hunting. Some I choose to participate in and others I don't.
For me---most of the outdoor hunting show are unwatchable. All the staged scenes and editing prove to be an insult to my intelligence. In addition, it seems you get a few minutes of action ( many times contrived) with the rest of the show being commercials. But--some folks obviously like them--they seem to be pretty popular.