I spoke with Reps for Winchester @ NWTF Convention yesterday. I asked him if they were going to discontinue Xtended Range and said, absolutely not. I told him that its rumored on all the turkey forums and he says, "Please let everyone know we will continue with Xtended Range. No changes expected".
He was not interested in getting on the forums and just was not very concern.
Told him we turkey hunters wanted 3 changes:
1. Boxes of 5
2. Higher payloads
3. #7 shot
Not sure what he thought.
Well, if they are going to continue making it, they'd better get busy. In most places all you can find are #4's.
Bird season opens up in a month in some states.......
Quote from: BowBendr on February 16, 2013, 02:58:01 PM
Well, if they are going to continue making it, they'd better get busy. In most places all you can find are #4's.
Bird season opens up in a month in some states.......
That's probably the better question for a Win rep, bowbendr -- When will your company begin shipping for the 2013 season, what date can hunters expect their load offerings on the shelf?
Quote from: K9Doc on February 16, 2013, 02:49:22 PMHe was not interested in getting on the forums and just was not very concern.
There's the problem right there.
As a company, I would be very concerned that word had gotten out all across the country that we had discontinued the shells. Meanwhile, everybody is out buying other makers shells getting ready to hunt soon.
They're gonna quickly lose market share.
Quote from: K9Doc on February 16, 2013, 02:49:22 PM
I spoke with Reps for Winchester @ NWTF Convention yesterday. I asked him if they were going to discontinue Xtended Range and said, absolutely not. I told him that its rumored on all the turkey forums and he says, "Please let everyone know we will continue with Xtended Range. No changes expected".
He was not interested in getting on the forums and just was not very concern.
Told him we turkey hunters wanted 3 changes:
1. Boxes of 5
2. Higher payloads
3. #7 shot
Not sure what he thought.
Why do we want boxes of 5 shells. I would rather hevi make boxes of 10.
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Why do we want boxes of 5 shells. I would rather hevi make boxes of 10.
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I was just thinking the same thing.
Makes me wonder why MidwayUsa would put it on ther site. If it was to make me believe a lie to get me to buy something else then I'm pissed.
I will stick to my Fed Heavyweights.
Boxes of 5 would reduce the cost when you are attempting to find out which shell / choke combo works best in your gun. I sent about 10 different partial boxes with 6 or 7 shells in each to a friend in Ky.It can get costly.
Quote from: redarrow on February 16, 2013, 05:38:28 PM
Boxes of 5 would reduce the cost when you are attempting to find out which shell / choke combo works best in your gun. I sent about 10 different partial boxes with 6 or 7 shells in each to a friend in Ky.It can get costly.
So boxes of 3 would be preferable??
I'd rather have 10.
Me too!
Good shells are pretty easy to sell if you are reasonable in pricing.
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Xtended range are gone the rep at the convention didn't even have any at tje booth for advertising but they had everything else that should tell you something
Hmmmm. Why boxes of 5? Seriously? It wasn't until recently that I didn't have to worry about Ammo prices. New choke or two. $65-150
Now Ammo: Hevi-shot $50 for 10.
HvyWt $50+for 10 Now I want to try 6's and 7's
You still got the math?
We are up to $350. Did it pattern well?
That's why 5 shells are appealing to the Avg. turkey hunter.
Many of you guys are not average.
Best advice I can give you is take advantage of friends with the same guns and wanting to try things. Couple buddies and I go in together if we want to try a different shell. Dirt road monks and I send chokes back and forth to try. Agree very much it can get expensive, but I love it so much the cost does not bother me much. 95% of my play money goes to Turkey hunting (calls, shells, chokes, camp, etc.).
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Quote from: K9Doc on February 16, 2013, 02:49:22 PM
Told him we turkey hunters wanted 3 changes:
1. Boxes of 5
2. Higher payloads
3. #7 shot
Please go find him again and stress that we also would love to see #7s in an effective 20 gauge load as well!
:theman:
FullChoke
i am not familiar enough with this load...is this load led or tungsten alloy?
Quote from: Eric Gregg on February 16, 2013, 10:21:39 PM
i am not familiar enough with this load...is this load led or tungsten alloy?
It is tungsten based EG.
If they're going to still make it and sell it, how many boxes of #6 did they have on hand to sell at the convention ? I'm not there, but I can guarantee you that HeviShot was selling outta their booth..
Quote from: BowBendr on February 16, 2013, 10:39:19 PM
Quote from: Eric Gregg on February 16, 2013, 10:21:39 PM
i am not familiar enough with this load...is this load led or tungsten alloy?
It is tungsten based EG.
If they're going to still make it and sell it, how many boxes of #6 did they have on hand to sell at the convention ? I'm not there, but I can guarantee you that HeviShot was selling outta their booth..
Ammunition is not allowed to be sold at the convention, the Winchester had empty boxes of 20, 12, and 10 in lead turkey loads double x and super x for advertising, they had some steel waterfowl loads for advertising and were heavily advertising the new 17 super mag but they absolutely did NOT have even one box of xtended range out for advertising. This was a tried and true dedicated Turkey load if they were still in production they would have them there to advertise.
Hevi-shot was not present at the convention that i am aware of
Are these in the same price range as Hevi-shot and Fed Heavyweight?
Quote from: Rockhound on February 16, 2013, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: BowBendr on February 16, 2013, 10:39:19 PM
Quote from: Eric Gregg on February 16, 2013, 10:21:39 PM
i am not familiar enough with this load...is this load led or tungsten alloy?
It is tungsten based EG.
If they're going to still make it and sell it, how many boxes of #6 did they have on hand to sell at the convention ? I'm not there, but I can guarantee you that HeviShot was selling outta their booth..
Ammunition is not allowed to be sold at the convention, the Winchester had empty boxes of 20, 12, and 10 in lead turkey loads double x and super x for advertising, they had some steel waterfowl loads for advertising and were heavily advertising the new 17 super mag but they absolutely did NOT have even one box of xtended range out for advertising. This was a tried and true dedicated Turkey load if they were still in production they would have them there to advertise.
Hevi-shot was not present at the convention that i am aware of
Then thats my bad RH, and I stand corrected.... I do seem to remember Hevi selling the mag blends at the convention a few years ago when that shell was the new "craze"....maybe i'm thinking of the Dixie Deer Classic.....i'm gettin' old. ;D
Hevi Shot was absolutely sold at the convention Friday. I think it was Macks Prarie Wings booth and there was a Hevi Shot rep there. I was there at about 5:00 and they were about out. They also were letting people fill out the rebate forms there and sending it in form them. You could also get $10 off per box, as many boxes you wanted to buy, and if they didn't have the size you wanted they gave you a coupon with NWTF stamped on it to order it when you got home and I think this was with shipping paid.
We have a small local Sporting Goods store and the owner is a HUGE turkey hunter. Several years ago I suggested that he sell single shells for those folks who are patterning there guns and guess what he did it too at a very reasonable price. It was a big hit and he still sold a pile of shells.
By the way, I know a store where there are 4 boxes of Extended Range 6s and 4 boxes of 5s for 39.00 a box. PM if interested and I will give you the number. They are also a shipping and pick up point for UPS so I am sure they will ship them to you.
Good Luck and God Bless
RAY
Quote from: K9Doc on February 16, 2013, 09:47:56 PM
Hmmmm. Why boxes of 5? Seriously? It wasn't until recently that I didn't have to worry about Ammo prices. New choke or two. $65-150
Now Ammo: Hevi-shot $50 for 10.
HvyWt $50+for 10 Now I want to try 6's and 7's
You still got the math?
We are up to $350. Did it pattern well?
That's why 5 shells are appealing to the Avg. turkey hunter.
Many of you guys are not average.
I agree, and I'd rather spend that $350 chasing turkeys somewhere than putting lots of teeny tiny holes in paper. I went through my ammo box the other day, and have bunches of shells, usually four or five of a kind, from probably the last two decades. Most are lead loads, and at the time I bought them, didn't cost much, so I don't have a lot of money tied up, but it just shows how easy it is to get a bunch of shells that don't pattern well, and tend to end up in storage somewhere. At $5 plus per shell, I don't really want to end up with 100 shells that I'll never shoot from testing multiple HTL loads.
I asked the same thing and was told the same. He wanted to know where I heard it and I told him forums and such! He assured me that they were not doing away with them!! I hope not because they are killers and I do not want to go to hevishot! I just want 2 boxes a 2 3/4 for my son and a 3 1/2 box for me both in # 5. I have found the 3 1/2 in #4
QuoteWhy do we want boxes of 5 shells. I would rather hevi make boxes of 10.
Hevi does make boxes of 10. They did it with both the old white, and the newer bronze shells in #4, #5, and #6. I've bought the #6's in both 5 & 10 shell boxes myself. I've never seen a box of 10 in the #7's or the Magnum Blend. Those were always in boxes of 5 when I saw and bought them.
I want a discount when I buy a bigger box. HTL's expense justify's boxes of 5. I don't expect to ever see Lead shells in boxes of 5.
Quote from: Eric Gregg on February 16, 2013, 10:51:37 PM
Are these in the same price range as Hevi-shot and Fed Heavyweight?
Eric,
Of the big three HTL loads, the Win XRHD is in my opinion, the most reasonably priced at an avg. of 40.00 a box of 10.
Hevi-13 3.5-2.25-6's run about 31.00-35.00 a box of 5, and the best price I saw for the Fed Heviweight 3.5-1 7/8-7's was 24.00 a box of 5 through Dunns.
The Fed is a tricky shell due to it's FCW, but I have heard if you can get it to pattern, it's probably the best load of the 3. The Hevi-13 and Winchesters are easier to get better patterns quickly through less choke testing.
My gun really doesn't care for the Hevi-13, but I get great patterns from the XRHD Winchesters. I have enough of those to get me over 25 years of turkey hunting.
Still very sad that they are gonna be discontinued. I don't really believe the company rep on this one. He's just blowing smoke. If they were gonna be offered, they would be out there now. Turkey season is around a month or less away in our southern states, and they wouldn't be this behind on the 8 ball in production.
I still have a store where I can get 2 boxes locally, so I am still good. :funnyturkey:
Quote from: Tom Dooley on February 16, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Hevi Shot was absolutely sold at the convention Friday. I think it was Macks Prarie Wings booth and there was a Hevi Shot rep there. I was there at about 5:00 and they were about out. They also were letting people fill out the rebate forms there and sending it in form them. You could also get $10 off per box, as many boxes you wanted to buy, and if they didn't have the size you wanted they gave you a coupon with NWTF stamped on it to order it when you got home and I think this was with shipping paid.
They must have put a hault to it quick because they sure would not sell any yesterday at all, but my point really is if Winchester was still producing xtended why didn't they have them there for advertising?
Quote from: Rockhound on February 17, 2013, 07:17:26 AM
Quote from: Tom Dooley on February 16, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Hevi Shot was absolutely sold at the convention Friday. I think it was Macks Prarie Wings booth and there was a Hevi Shot rep there. I was there at about 5:00 and they were about out. They also were letting people fill out the rebate forms there and sending it in form them. You could also get $10 off per box, as many boxes you wanted to buy, and if they didn't have the size you wanted they gave you a coupon with NWTF stamped on it to order it when you got home and I think this was with shipping paid.
They must have put a hault to it quick because they sure would not sell any yesterday at all, but my point really is if Winchester was still producing xtended why didn't they have them there for advertising?
Bingo! :z-winnersmiley:
Winchester really made it believable with the discontinue! I'll stick with Mag Blends for now ;)
Quote from: Rockhound on February 17, 2013, 07:17:26 AM
Quote from: Tom Dooley on February 16, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Hevi Shot was absolutely sold at the convention Friday. I think it was Macks Prarie Wings booth and there was a Hevi Shot rep there. I was there at about 5:00 and they were about out. They also were letting people fill out the rebate forms there and sending it in form them. You could also get $10 off per box, as many boxes you wanted to buy, and if they didn't have the size you wanted they gave you a coupon with NWTF stamped on it to order it when you got home and I think this was with shipping paid.
They must have put a hault to it quick because they sure would not sell any yesterday at all, but my point really is if Winchester was still producing xtended why didn't they have them there for advertising?
I bought a few boxes at about 4:15 yesterday afternoon. They didn't have much left.
Hope the 3-2-7's work for me.
Also, Winchester did have some empty boxes of extended range over there to look at, but they weren't selling.
Must have been at a different convention than i was
Quote from: K9Doc on February 16, 2013, 09:47:56 PM
Hmmmm. Why boxes of 5? Seriously? It wasn't until recently that I didn't have to worry about Ammo prices. New choke or two. $65-150
Now Ammo: Hevi-shot $50 for 10.
HvyWt $50+for 10 Now I want to try 6's and 7's
You still got the math?
We are up to $350. Did it pattern well?
That's why 5 shells are appealing to the Avg. turkey hunter.
Many of you guys are not average.
You prolly aren't either - the average turkey hunter probably rolls with lead instead of HTL and puts it through a factory xtra full.
Quote from: skos29 on February 17, 2013, 09:10:43 AM
My God you all sound like a bunch of old ladies crying over some yarn that was discontinued at your local craft store. Sure seems to be a whole lot of speculation going on even after the Winchester Rep even told one of you all that they weren't going to discontinue the load. Instead of crying about it here why don't you put your concerns in an email and send it to Winchester or better yet, call them. Good God give it a break and stop your crying already.
Who is crying ?
Who is whining ?
This is your 2nd post in this thread saying so...
Point is, if you would go back and read various other threads from the past
months, you would know that numerous e-mails and calls have been sent to Winchester. They still stand by their story, yet there are none to be had and turkey season is approaching very soon. Some guys want to shoot them and they want to start patterning soon. If guys have to switch up what they've shot for years, it requires time at the board and maybe a change in chokes and it takes time to do that. That's all.
Instead of getting on here and pokin at people, why dont you go out and find a hearty supply of xrhd to suppy everyone on this board that needs some.....we'll wait......
Quote from: skos29 on February 17, 2013, 04:37:05 PM
You see, that there just proved my point. More whining and crying. :TooFunny:
I don't believe anyone is crying. BowBendr just explained to you what has been done by many forum members on here in response to Winchesters lack of information regarding this particular shell.
People put alot of time and money into patterning their shotguns, and the last thing they want to hear is that a particular shell that they have gotten dialed in, is no longer in production. For many, it means starting all over-not much fun.
So what you are mistaking for whining and crying are just people voicing their frustrations among their friends.
Its ok Mikey. He ain't here to add anything to the topic...just trollin'....... :anim_25:
4`s 5`s 6`s It only takes one bee bee to the head :toothy9:
Quote from: BowBendr on February 17, 2013, 06:40:16 PM
Its ok Mikey. He ain't here to add anything to the topic...just trollin'....... :anim_25:
good thing he wasn't here when we were pitching a bitch about the hevi being changed.LOL
Is the season here yet
Quote from: Old Gobbler on February 17, 2013, 08:27:20 PM
Is the season here yet
AMEN!
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My local store has a ton of 3" #5 i bought all the 3" #6s they still have 6 or 7 boxes of 3-1/2 #6s. Ill start buying them upi imagine
Quote from: Rockhound on February 17, 2013, 09:01:25 AM
Must have been at a different convention than i was
I've bought hevi at the convention every year for the last 4. This year was no different, Macks Prairie Wings had it this year with a $10 rebate on as many boxes as you bought not just two. The last few years hevi had a booth they were selling from. Also bought some fed HW from a different booth.
I sure hope the rep is correct. However, just my opinion, but keep in mind that it's the husband that is the last to know his wife is cheating. My money is on that extended range is gone.