If the most common turkey choke constriction sizes for a 12ga rem are something along the lines of:
0.655 to 0.675 (most common range) With the smaller constriction being better for #7 and #6 and the larger better for #5 and #4.
What would this same range be for common choke constriction on an SP10?
In other words, what's the most common and most proven constriction sizes for #7, #6, #5, and #4 out of an SP10?
685 through 720 with the tighter end seeming most common.
many chokes are in the 690 -695 range
Does anybody know what the constriction is on the factory rem flush turkey choke that came with my SP10?
Pretty sure the factory choke is .720.
Thanks Ducks. Based on the most common range your mentioned I would assume that 0.685 - 0.695 might be better for #6 and #7 and above that would be better for #5 and #4...? As a general place to start?
Full Fan -
To be honest I'm in the choke/load research mode as well. I've been pushing the Federal 2 ounce high velocities for the past few years out of a Hasting .695 ported with good results - until last year when I ran out and bought more. I lined up a "always smoked them before" 40ish yard shot and 3 shells later the bird is sitting there looking at me like I was shooting blanks. I had patterned them at 25 yards just to insure POI and they were dead on, but after the miss I backed off to 40 yards and... well let's just say I never hurt that bird. What a difference a different lot of ammo makes...
So now I'm looking at the Federal hevi-shot #6's with flight control and my .685 non-ported choke. I ordered a couple of boxes from Dunns. I'll try this out before deciding to buy another choke. I'm also getting older and am putting a Quick Shot on my SP-10, I have a hard time getting my head down on the stock and still being able to see through my glasses at the beads. If this combo gives me 200 at 40, I'll call it good. If not, I probably will bow out of the 10 gauge club and go to my Xtrema-2 (3.5 inch) or 11-87 (3 inch). If I have to buy new chokes, may as well be for a gauge with more ammo options. Hate to say that, but it's reality. The Quick Shot will mount right to the Xtrema receiver.
Full Fan - BTW -I saw here somewhere here where someone measured his Remington factory flush choke and came up with .728
Ducks
I got 235 at 40 with the federal #7s so im doubting you will see 200 with 6s. Im shooting a Browning though and will say you should give the kicks 690 with that sp10.
Thanks, Rockhound. Does Federal still make the 7's? Can't find them!!!
You're the second guy who says give the Kicks a run. Might have to try that.
Have you tried the 6's? Curious if you have a pellet count.....
Ducks
Hinterlandoors.com for the #7's -- get it while you can guys , I am suspicious that the Federal HW may have already been discontinued..... you can play it safe and buy a few boxes , or run the chance -
You may not think so , yet but the #7s have ridiculous amounts of energy -I have a scrap piece of 1/2- 5/8 hardwood sandply and every single pellet passed right through it like a hot knife through butter - I have the same choke thanks to Rockhounds helpful posts , and got 218 in a dirty barrel on a windy day -- My gun will probably knock it up to the 230-240 with some tweaking
Great information guys.
Rockhound - aren't all Kicks chokes ported and therefore not recommended for use with the Federal HW FCW?
Ducks - I'd be interested in knowing what you get with those #6 Fed HW FCW loads.
Has anybody tested any of the H13 loads? I see they have a 2oz #5, #6 and #7 available. Do the Federals perform better?
Where are you finding hevi 13 in #7 for a 10 gauge? All I can find are 5's.
???
Ducks
Hinterland outfitters does have the Federal #7 tungsten in 10 gauge in stock. I bet it hs been discontinued given it costs $5 more than the same in #6. To me that's a dead give away.
I have a 10 gauge reloader - I can reload lead shells no problem, but hevi shot is its own animal. I should research that some more. Components are pretty easy to find - recipes are a little harder. Kind of like asking a duck call maker his radius. If you know what I mean, you know what I mean (I'm not telling mine!!). :lol:
Ducks
Hinterland had #7 Federals for $25 a box two weeks ago , I bought a case of it - now its 29$ :(
The 20 gauge Federal #7 is very hard to get right now -
In about 2-3 weeks most people will be able to figure out if Federal has , or has not discontinued the HW in turkey like they did for ducks -If it has been discontinued it will simply be harder to get , after time impossible - When the seasonal shopping starts in a few weeks , most of what is remaining will be drained out -- hope this isnt the case ,
Old Gobbler - No doubt you are right. One more load bites teh dust... Therefore....
Go big or stay home. I want a great patterning, dedicated turkey gun that will absorb the recoil of a hard htting, clean killing, turkey load at 40 yards - so I ordered a .690 Jell Head for my SP-10 and will be shooting the 2 1/4 ounce Nitro Mega Weight shells as recommended on their site. A few extar FPS over the MH210 2 1/2 ounce load, maybe a little less recoil, maybe a few less pellets in the pattern, but I do prefer a faster payload. Also from what I've read on this site that choke should work well with the Nitor stright #7 heavy shot if I want to really clog the 10 inch circle.
Now for optics... I'm leaning towards the Quick Shot as I like the field of view. Some guys prefer a scope - anyoen have thoughts about the better approach for a 10 gauge?
Ducks
Ducks - My mistake I was reading the shot sizes in the H13 MagnumBlend loads. Other than the MagnumBlend, H13 only makes a 10ga stright #5 load.
Quote from: M R Ducks on February 10, 2013, 08:38:00 PM
Old Gobbler - No doubt you are right. One more load bites teh dust... Therefore....
Go big or stay home. I want a great patterning, dedicated turkey gun that will absorb the recoil of a hard htting, clean killing, turkey load at 40 yards - so I ordered a .690 Jell Head for my SP-10 and will be shooting the 2 1/4 ounce Nitro Mega Weight shells as recommended on their site. A few extar FPS over the MH210 2 1/2 ounce load, maybe a little less recoil, maybe a few less pellets in the pattern, but I do prefer a faster payload. Also from what I've read on this site that choke should work well with the Nitor stright #7 heavy shot if I want to really clog the 10 inch circle.
Now for optics... I'm leaning towards the Quick Shot as I like the field of view. Some guys prefer a scope - anyoen have thoughts about the better approach for a 10 gauge?
Ducks
I think you took the correct course of action with the choke constriction - the 690 range chokes are far more versatile
The bigger dia 720 Rhino seems to only perform best with the
triplex H210 -
I have a aimtech see through saddle mount on my sp10 and the main sighting device is a Burris M-TAC scope , I have a top picatinny ring with a FF2 as a backup or close in sight - previously I had a Bushnell plex shotgun scope , but once I got the far clearer self illuminated Burris scope that went right on the SP10 - The 4X Burris scope is so bright and clear
(http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t456/oldgobbler3/2013-01-26_14-24-50_320.jpg)
OG, thanks!
Ducks
Quote from: Full_Fan on February 10, 2013, 04:21:12 PM
Great information guys.
Rockhound - aren't all Kicks chokes ported and therefore not recommended for use with the Federal HW FCW?
Ducks - I'd be interested in knowing what you get with those #6 Fed HW FCW loads.
Has anybody tested any of the H13 loads? I see they have a 2oz #5, #6 and #7 available. Do the Federals perform better?
Federal had a list out awhile back that listed safe chokes with the fcw and kicks was on it. Charlie Boswell will also say they are safe and they are a great choke for everything i have run through them besides the new tss load and you cant really choke it that tight. I have shot dozens of fcw lead and several heavyweight fcw in my 10 as well as tss and hevi 13 and those things are built like tanks. In my 835/kicks combo i honestly bet i put close to 3 or 4 hundred of the lead fcw through it.
It appears to me that if the price increased they had to order fresh stock