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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 12 ga Turkey Gun Pattern Pictures => Topic started by: sugarray on March 24, 2012, 01:39:56 PM

Title: Patterns from 3/23 with MB 835, TSS and Win XR, PG and IC chokes
Post by: sugarray on March 24, 2012, 01:39:56 PM
Again, patterned with a great new friend.

All patterns, unless noted, are shot at 40 yds.  Mossberg 835 with 20" barrel.  Temp mid 70's.

First shot to get close at 10-15 yds.  I had the site and the base off the gun.  Pretty weird.
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/89b1d5b5.jpg)

These are lining in the Mueller Quick Shot.  IC .710, TSS 2 oz #8

(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/eca47dc1.jpg)
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/ed859ebf.jpg)
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/78129169.jpg)
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/5f675697.jpg)

Now, here is a PG .670, TSS 2 oz #8 at 40 yds
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/56379393.jpg)

Now at 10 yds to compare to my IC .710 at 10 yds
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/e2630738.jpg)
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/DSC01015.jpg)

Here is PG .670 and Win XR 3.5", 2 oz #6 at 40 yds
10"=147, 10"-20"=173 > total in 20"=320
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww336/sugarray40/Hunting/patterns/7dd4f42a.jpg)
Title: Re: Patterns from 3/23 with MB 835, TSS and Win XR, PG and IC chokes
Post by: sugarray on March 24, 2012, 01:43:24 PM
What do you think of the variation with the IC choke in the same load?

What do you think the of elongated, ovoid pattern of the IC vs the more round pattern of the PG?
Which would you rather hunt with?
    I know I need to shoot a couple of more with the PG to get a better idea of consistency.

What do you think of the Win XR pattern?
    I'd like to get a .675, .680, .685, .690 to try as well.  Not sure how opening it up would work.
Title: Re: Patterns from 3/23 with MB 835, TSS and Win XR, PG and IC chokes
Post by: bird on March 24, 2012, 01:48:03 PM
For a factory load I really like that PG and Win XRHD for a hunting pattern.
Title: Re: Patterns from 3/23 with MB 835, TSS and Win XR, PG and IC chokes
Post by: devin4484 on March 24, 2012, 01:57:15 PM
I like the pure gold patterns alot better even with the xr.  The tss no.8 look tough to beat
Title: Re: Patterns from 3/23 with MB 835, TSS and Win XR, PG and IC chokes
Post by: sugarray on March 24, 2012, 02:55:06 PM
Quote from: Spuriosity on March 24, 2012, 02:14:34 PM
That is a good bit of variation with the T8s and IC. More than I like, but sometimes unavoidable. The good news is, the worst pattern is awfully good. I'm wondering what a .720 would look like?

I would love to see more from the PG as you said to check consistency. The PG XRHD is a great hunting pattern, very forgiving with a decent range cushion.

I wonder what that .720 would be like too.  Not enough to get one yet though.   ;D

I'll get some loaded up and see what the PG does with a couple of more through it.

That XRHD is a great hunting pattern. 
Do you think opening up to say .690 JH would improve the pattern or worsen it?
Title: Re: Patterns from 3/23 with MB 835, TSS and Win XR, PG and IC chokes
Post by: cannonball on March 24, 2012, 09:08:32 PM
Nice. :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Patterns from 3/23 with MB 835, TSS and Win XR, PG and IC chokes
Post by: duckaholic25 on March 25, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
I am getting similiar numbers with a jelly head .690 win xtd #6s out of my 835.
Title: Re: Patterns from 3/23 with MB 835, TSS and Win XR, PG and IC chokes
Post by: Gadget on March 27, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
Yeah the IC is throwing some inconsistent patterns there. The PG is more round and even but I do think it's too tight for that gun. I think you should try the 696 PG buckshot choke. Has anyone shot that choke with the 835 and TSS?, it should do good in that gun. That's what I would want to try.

Rick