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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: 2much2loud on March 22, 2012, 01:08:30 PM

Title: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: 2much2loud on March 22, 2012, 01:08:30 PM
I have seen the good/bad lot numbers for the 7s.  How bout the good/bad lot numbers for the 2.25 ounce 3.5 6's
Thanks Greg
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: camodawg on March 22, 2012, 01:11:48 PM
I'd like to know also.
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: Longshanks on March 22, 2012, 01:36:57 PM
I haven't seen and difference in the 3/2/6's or 3/2/7's. The 3.5/7's have some bad lot #s. Havent heard anything about the 3.5/6's.
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: davisd9 on March 22, 2012, 01:50:13 PM
Great lot number, whatever new Hevi-Shot #6s 3.5s Academy had on their shelves:

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(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af161/davisd9/100_02722.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af161/davisd9/100_0279.jpg)
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: dpittman on March 22, 2012, 01:55:50 PM
Shot 2 out of 300505 today. PG670 193/10/40.  SSX 216/10/40. velocity of these 2 shots was 1283 and 1298 fps. I am concerned about this velocity as it is very high. I shot other shells thru my chrono today also that are right on so I know the chrono is good. The recoil on these shots was very severe. I am shooting 870SM 23".
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: nyhunter on March 22, 2012, 04:45:44 PM
870 sm, 23" polished barrel, .660 jelly head choke. measured 40yds and 10" circle. 300549 and 300752 were ordered this year.
300549 = 135
100575 "from 3-4 years ago" = 198, 200
300752 = 232
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: allaboutshooting on March 22, 2012, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on March 22, 2012, 01:50:13 PM
Great lot number, whatever new Hevi-Shot #6s 3.5s Academy had on their shelves:

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af161/davisd9/turkeytarget.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af161/davisd9/100_02722.jpg)

(http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af161/davisd9/100_0279.jpg)

That is a "lot" of dead bird. Congratulations.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: 2much2loud on March 22, 2012, 07:58:50 PM
Well my six boxes of shells and Indian Creek .665 came today. The lot numbers on all six boxes were 300756....hope its a good one I havent seen it listed on here yet....I am just glad it is not 300549
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: nyhunter on March 23, 2012, 05:49:07 AM
I hope so to, keep us posted,Its gonna be a great day here in the southern tier to shoot. you better get out and fire a few of those to see.
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: GSLAM95 on March 23, 2012, 06:38:16 AM
Are there any bad lot #s of 20 gauge #6  in 3" loads?
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: 2much2loud on March 23, 2012, 03:45:19 PM
Shot the new loads today and dissapointed. Clean SBE 2 24 inch barrel brand new out of the box .665 Indian Creek Choke. Best pattern was a 167 in the 10" worst was 145 in the 10". The wierd thing was that the first shot was the 145 with the clean barrel and the last shot was the 167, it was like the dirtier the barrel got the better patterns were, like it needed to be seasoned. I did have a few 3.5 H13 7's left from last year and got 276 and 288 in the 10" circle.
On one board I counted 164 in the 10" , 292 in the 20", with a total of 362 on a 4x4 sheet of cardboard. I always thought that there was usually 425-450 #6 pellets in 2.25 oz of shot, I cant imagine almost a hundred pellets did not even hit the board. Like some one in another post said ..there was a considerable amount of recoil that with the sevens...did they lighten the load and speed them up? I wish I would have brought some extended range to try with the new combo.  With all that said I am just going to stick with this set up just because the patterns were very even..., my POI matched my POA , and I bought six boxes :(

Lets hear your thoughts on the amount of shot and recoil as well as the patterns improving as the barrel was getting dirtier
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: Michigander on March 23, 2012, 09:41:24 PM
Your choke probably just needs to break in a little.
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: Cutt on March 24, 2012, 05:53:08 PM
Last year was my first Season with Hevi-13, and I only had 1 box of 3.5 2.25 #6's to try, as I bought mostly 7's and went with them.

Although after shooting the 1 box of 3.5 2.25 #6's, lot # 300513, I was impressed and decided to switch to them this year as I was getting anywhere from 190-210 in the 10 @ 40.

Fast forward to this year bought 5 boxes of the same exact load 3.5 2.25 #6's, although a different lot# 300787, and was not that impressed as my numbers dropped off in the 150-160 range in the 10 @ 40.

Rather than mess around, I decided to go with them anyways, even though the #'s dropped off. But now my next dilemma, I had to buy a few more boxes to make sure I have enough for the Season, and again they are a different lot# 300756.

I still have to shoot a couple of the new lot#'s 300756 to compare? But I can tell you one thing? If this new lot # drops off even more than the last lot, or if my POI changes, I will not be shooting Hevi-13 next Season, just too much money to be constantly changing and checking things? hopefully they do not change for the worst, but I can only hope better?
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: 2much2loud on March 24, 2012, 09:13:52 PM
Hey Cutt I feel your pain. Let me know how you make out with that lot number. I am sticking with these shells and think I may get better numbers as my choke breaks in. I know it's a dead turkey but for price I expect a little better from hevi shot
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: flayer on March 24, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
lot numbers with the hevi-13 vary to much for the price now. I think hevi-13 needs to do a little more research on there loading for true pattern numbers to stay up. :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: Jbird22 on March 25, 2012, 08:15:15 PM
My patterns show that lots 300184 and 300308 are VERY good while lot 300491 is not as good (30-40 pellets less) but is acceptable.
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: Cutt on March 25, 2012, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: JBIRD22 on March 25, 2012, 08:15:15 PM
My patterns show that lots 300184 and 300308 are VERY good while lot 300491 is not as good (30-40 pellets less) but is acceptable.

Is it safe to say, the higher the lot #, as compared to lower lot #'s, the worse the count?

It just seems to me with all I read, previous lower lot#'s are always better than the higher more recent lot #'s? I don't think I ever read where a higher lot#, was better than a previous lot #? If this is the case, we all should know the outcome before even shooting, as the just seem to get progressively worse?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but have any recent higher lot#'s gotten better than any lower lot #'s?
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: mnhunter2 on March 25, 2012, 09:29:03 PM
I shot my first 3.5 2.25 oz of 6's from lot 3007xx with a new sum toy .650 choke, at 40yds got 140 in 10" and had 280 in 20".  I am not going to waste any of the old lots that shot well, they will all be used on turkeys that will soon be dead!  What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Hevi 13 #6's
Post by: Jbird22 on March 25, 2012, 10:01:49 PM
Cutt, it sure seems that the higher lot #'s are not as good (count wise) as the lower lots.

mnhunter2, I'm getting around 140 with my "worse" lot # also. I'm gonna use the "worse" ones in the thicker woods and save the "better" ones for the more open woods/fields.