went out to the shoots yesterday with the vinci,shot about ten rounds with it.after the last shoot i noticed the pin holding the trigger group was backing out.i pushed it back in and was looking at it when i saw the alignment was off where the buttstock screws in to the reciever.this happened to the first one i had,followed by the rubber comfortec inserts popping out.right on time before turkey season!Does anyone else have a vinci and have they encounterd this problem?i'm so frustrated right now its not even funny! thanks for any advice...ward
"advice"
You could always head down to the gun shop and swap her in on a new SX3 :D
thats the direction i think im headed!It's a long story but i had a bunch of problems with the first one i had,sent it back to benelli,then it was about 3 months of waiting.To their credit they just sent me a new gun,but it was ridiculous.It ended up being some sort of miscommunication between them and gander mountain,but if i hadn't started making some calls i probably still be waiting,ha ha!I guess i was wondering if anyone else had one and if theirs was doing that,like is it common for the stock to rotate?I am just concerned now because thats what the last one did before i started having the other issues with it.I don't know if that was the cause of the problems with the first one or not.I guess i'm going to find out sooner than later!
I would think if the stock is rotating, the nut that holds it on is loose. It should be an easy fix. Pull off the recoil pad, take the appropriate sized ratched, line the stock up how it's supposed to be, and tighten down the nut. Possibly it wasn't assembeled tight at the factory, and the recoil is making it work loose?
benelli are way over rated, i always thought i had to have one and i finally bought one, sure glad i bought the cheap junk instead of the high price stuff, sad to say when a mossberg out shoots a benelli,,,,,,
Quote from: Borden811 on March 12, 2012, 05:48:47 PM
I would think if the stock is rotating, the nut that holds it on is loose. It should be an easy fix. Pull off the recoil pad, take the appropriate sized ratched, line the stock up how it's supposed to be, and tighten down the nut. Possibly it wasn't assembeled tight at the factory, and the recoil is making it work loose?
That's what it sounds like. When I got my SBE II, the FIRST thing I did was go over it with a fine toothed comb, looking for any loose screws, pins, etc. and cleaned the bejesus out of it too. I found the stock retention nut to be a little loose and that got snugged up in a hurry. Hasn't backed out yet and that gun has had THOUSANDS of rounds through it, including some serious thumpers! If you can move the buttstock even a tiny bit, the nut needs snugged up.
What Reloader said.
Quote from: tyelper on March 12, 2012, 06:11:52 PM
benelli are way over rated, i always thought i had to have one and i finally bought one, sure glad i bought the cheap junk instead of the high price stuff, sad to say when a mossberg out shoots a benelli,,,,,,
Wow. That was "constructive" ::) Not. Not sure but did you say you have one or you bought one or...can't honestly tell by that post. The fact that a Mossy 835 can and will outshoot one doesn't mean a thing. I bought mine for waterfowl mainly, turkey scondary because I have 3 835's and they SHOOT. I got the SBE II because it is reliable and fast and tough. I have gotten over the fact that it will never pattern as good as ny TH 835...
ok let me rephrase that mine is junk,,yes i bought a new nova and i wish i would put my money on a mossy 935,,,,,,,but it will shoot just not the gun that i thought it would be,,,,
mossberg!!!!lol..i love mine..
Comparing a nova to a Vinci or a SBE isn't even close to a fair comparison. And it only makes sense that a gun with an overbore barrel will most times out pattern a gun with one of the smallest inside diameter barrels on the market. That being said, with the right shells my SBE II will out pattern 8 out of 10 Mossbergs. Back to the topic at hand. Let us know if tightening the nut fixes your problems!
Quote from: tyelper on March 12, 2012, 07:04:45 PM
ok let me rephrase that mine is junk,,yes i bought a new nova and i wish i would put my money on a mossy 935,,,,,,,but it will shoot just not the gun that i thought it would be,,,,
That's because you bought a nova. There is a reason it's the cheapest gun they make.
Quote from: Borden811 on March 12, 2012, 05:48:47 PM
I would think if the stock is rotating, the nut that holds it on is loose. It should be an easy fix. Pull off the recoil pad, take the appropriate sized ratched, line the stock up how it's supposed to be, and tighten down the nut. Possibly it wasn't assembeled tight at the factory, and the recoil is making it work loose?
The stock on a Vinci is not held on like many other guns. The stock twist on and off for assembly. It could be it just does not fit tight enough where it is designed to twist apart.
Quote from: tyelper on March 12, 2012, 07:04:45 PM
ok let me rephrase that mine is junk,,yes i bought a new nova and i wish i would put my money on a mossy 935,,,,,,,but it will shoot just not the gun that i thought it would be,,,,
Hahaha you are judging Benelli by the cheapest PUMP gun they make. That's like judging mossberg on the maverick. Come in man that's beyond comical. Apples to apples compair the 935 to the SBE2 and see what you come up with as an all around shotgun.
Quote from: zach06 on March 12, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: tyelper on March 12, 2012, 07:04:45 PM
ok let me rephrase that mine is junk,,yes i bought a new nova and i wish i would put my money on a mossy 935,,,,,,,but it will shoot just not the gun that i thought it would be,,,,
That's because you bought a nova. There is a reason it's the cheapest gun they make.
Wow. A 935 better than the nova? What a blind side.
Quote from: joffutt1 on March 12, 2012, 08:14:48 PM
Quote from: zach06 on March 12, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: tyelper on March 12, 2012, 07:04:45 PM
ok let me rephrase that mine is junk,,yes i bought a new nova and i wish i would put my money on a mossy 935,,,,,,,but it will shoot just not the gun that i thought it would be,,,,
That's because you bought a nova. There is a reason it's the cheapest gun they make.
Wow. A 935 better than the nova? What a blind side.
As long as that stupid retainer clip stays intact, you better believe it! All day looooong better than a Nova. Nova in spanish means "no go" btw. :TooFunny:
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 12, 2012, 08:18:47 PMQuote from: joffutt1 on March 12, 2012, 08:14:48 PMQuote from: zach06 on March 12, 2012, 07:31:20 PMQuote from: tyelper on March 12, 2012, 07:04:45 PMok let me rephrase that mine is junk,,yes i bought a new nova and i wish i would put my money on a mossy 935,,,,,,,but it will shoot just not the gun that i thought it would be,,,,
That's because you bought a nova. There is a reason it's the cheapest gun they make.
You realized i was being sarcastic, right?
Wow. A 935 better than the nova? What a blind side.
As long as that stupid retainer clip stays intact, you better believe it! All day looooong better than a Nova. Nova in spanish means "no go" btw. :TooFunny:
I was being sarcastic.
Didn't mean to rant,lol!Yes the vinci's stock twists in the back of the reciever.There is a triangular shaped mark on the stock that aligns with a groove on top of the reciever.After some shooting the marks are not in alignment,like the stock is rotating on its own,possibly due to recoil?This is my second vinci,the one i originally had started to do the same thing and then i started to have other problems after it started doing that,so i sent it in and instead of repairing it they sent me a new one,the one im talking about now.Thats what i'm worried about.I guess i'll just keep my fingers crossed that it's nothing,thank you everyone for your replys!I'll know if theres a bigger problem this weekend when i do some patterning with some 3' shells.....ward
My super Vinci is pretty tight so I have not had any problems with it rotating on its own. Hopefully you won't have any more with yours.
Do you notice any obvious cracks or wear at the point where the parts meet?
for what they cost,shouldn't nothing ever break on them
Quote from: tyelper on March 12, 2012, 06:11:52 PM
benelli are way over rated, i always thought i had to have one and i finally bought one, sure glad i bought the cheap junk instead of the high price stuff, sad to say when a mossberg out shoots a benelli,,,,,,
X2
you all missed the point, i was compairing the 935 to the nova no t to the black eagle,,,,,
I have an SBE and a Baikal. As far as turkey hunting, they both pattern about the same. But the Baikal is A LOT CHEAPER. After I get my scope mounted on the baikal I would not hesitate to take either one on a hunt.
Quote from: tyelper on March 13, 2012, 07:00:03 AM
you all missed the point, i was compairing the 935 to the nova no t to the black eagle,,,,,
We know. Like comparing apples to oranges.
Quote from: tyelper on March 13, 2012, 07:00:03 AM
you all missed the point, i was compairing the 935 to the nova no t to the black eagle,,,,,
No. Apparently you missed the point. You just cannot compare a nova to a vinci or a SBE II or well any other semi auto for that matter. Your experience with a gun that just happens to wear the brand name is irrelevant if it isn't even in the same class of gun...
I own 3 Vinci's and 1 Super Vinci. I've never had any problems from any of them. Is the screw tight on the stock where the barrel meets the stock?
I also own a SBE 2 and M2 20 ga. My first turkey gun was an 835 which I sold after I got my first Benelli. There is no comparison.
This is my pattern out of my SBE 2. Don't really see a need for improvement. 327 hits in a 10" circle at 40 yards it also has a great 20" pattern as well.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/01Foreman400/7e7155ce.jpg)
Quote from: tyelper on March 13, 2012, 07:00:03 AM
you all missed the point, i was compairing the 935 to the nova no t to the black eagle,,,,,
as mighty said, you are missing the point. that is not even close to a good comparison. You are comparing the best mossberg has to offer to the worst benelli has to offer.
thats like me saying the Chevy SUCKS because of the Malibu is terrible compared to the lexus i bought. Mossberg is by no means a lexus but you get the point.
if you judge a brand by the lowest they offer Mossberg would be nothing but junk like the maverick and remington would be worthless just like the 887 they came out with.
if you are going apples to apples put the 935 against the SBE11 like i said before and see what you come up with. Benellis are not for everyone and people have preferences, some warranted and some not, but to say they are junk is comical.
THANK YOU Foreman!I completly forgot i had changed the shim awhile back,and if that nut loosend up a little,it would let the stock rotate slightly independantly of the big threaded insert that goes into the receiver.I was thinking about it today and the threaded insert has a pin that hold the shim in alignment,and the pin is slightly smaller in diameter than the hole in the shim,so if that nut worked loose that would allow the stock to turn slightly while the big insert in the stock would still be tight!I'll tear her down later and check it and tighten it up real good and see what happens this weekend.I couldn't figure out how it was moving as it is a really tight fit when installing the stock.Thank you very much,i'll post an update later after i tighten it up and shoot it some more.Thanks again....ward
lmao............to each thier own ill stick with the 870...