Looking at the 3" lead loads to play with some. Which load seems to be the crowd favorite...the 3/2/6 red hull/black box or the 3/1 7/8/6 black hull/black box? I already had the 2oz loads and saw the thermacell add so figured I would ho ahead and get another to make it final.
Which seems to be the netter performer? Im gonna be shooting these through an 835 for testing. If they shoot well, what would be a good pattern at 40? Not even sure what's considered good numbers. I also plan to shoot a federal fc 3.5" 6...really hope it does well cause I will shoot them if they do. While we at it...what would be good for that load?
With hevi going up, I just can't stand not to have cheaper alternatives. Gotta give em a go since I already have em. May can use them and save some hevi in the 12, but the 20 is slanging tss :fud:
Actually I would like to see results of this as well....
I've been thinking I'll shoot 3.5 just becasue....I can and prob will get more lead down range...
BTW I found these another tread....
Win.#6 XX 3.5 2 1/4 oz = 145 in 10"@40
Win.#6 HV 3.5 2 oz = 98in 10"@40
Win.#5 HV 3.5 2oz = 127in 10"@40
this was from a 935 with TruGlo SSX 670 choke.
Win High Velocity period. Best lead load I have shot.
Quote from: Trevor2 on March 10, 2012, 04:13:06 PM
Win High Velocity period. Best lead load I have shot.
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Fountian you will probably want to try all the loads you mentioned . my 3" bps wont pattern the HV winchesters nearly as well as the 3/2/5 or 3/2/6 red hull winchesters in the black box or the 3/2/5 federals thats witha choke in the 670 range , but my franchi with a 655 choke loves the HV winchester load in 6's . I cant tell any difference in killing power with the slower lead loads just a lot more holes in the target . might just be that the back bored barrel with that choke likes the slower load . I had one of the older 835's years ago and that gun loved the old federal gold and blue box load but not the winchester as much .
Quote from: okiegobblers on March 10, 2012, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: Trevor2 on March 10, 2012, 04:13:06 PM
Win High Velocity period. Best lead load I have shot.
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X3. The "Old" Federal Premium pre-FC are great also.
My best results are with Win XX 3/2/6's. 125-130
The HV 3" 6's and 17/8 6's will both turn 110-115 out of my lead shooter.
Win 6's are all killers out of my 870.
my 835 will shoot the black HV real good,but she loves the red XX magnums to death
i have both and by mistake, the hv is 1 3/4 oz not 1 7/8. i have me now and will shoot em both hopefully tomorrow. i got a lot of different loads im shooting in the 835: hevi 13 3.5" 7s, hevi 13 3.6" 6, fed fc 3.5" lead 6, and the 2 winchester 3" lead 6 loads. if i can get good even patterns with a good count then i will go with the lead and rat hole the hevi. the main gun this year is the 20 with tss anyways, so this is the second man gun
Winn HV have consistently patterned better than all the others in my Remington's. The other Winn loads are good too. I ran 3.5 #6 federals through every choke I had and the best I did was a very spotty 120 at 40 yards. The old federals are solid shells and patterned well in my 12 and 20, I just don't want to shoot my stockpile up. :-\
Part Number STH1235
Black Shell, 12 Gauge 3 inch 1300 FPS 1-3/4 oz #5 shot. #5's give you a balance between # of shot and energy at range IMO... From what a few stores noted it tends to sell faster then other loads and was first recommended to me by a good DNR friend of mine and in his gun was very very deadly!
I don't think you can go wrong with #6, #4 only concern would be pattern, and do you really need 4 on a turkey at 40 or less yards?
patterned the old 835 this afternoon with some 3.5" Winchester black HV shells and a .679 Truglo GS
the first shot was a 2oz #6 245 hits in a 12 " circle
the second shot was a 2oz#4 152 hits in a 12" circle '
i shot the winchester 3/2/6 today in my 835 and got 143 with them...it was actually the best patterning load i shot. having bbl issues i was happy with this shot. im gonna try again tomorrow and see if it stays consistent. i sure hope it does.
Did you give the Winchester XXT12L6's a try?
which is that? i have the 3/2/6 and the 3/1 3/4/6. i did not shoot the hv 1 3/4 oz today, but will tomorrow.
Quote from: fountain2 on March 14, 2012, 10:02:08 PM
which is that? i have the 3/2/6 and the 3/1 3/4/6. i did not shoot the hv 1 3/4 oz today, but will tomorrow.
They are the Win XX 3.5" 2 1/4 oz loads my 835 loves the 6's out of a PG .670
I only bought 3" loads..nit real sure why, but figured they would be easier for my wife to handle and still kill to 40-45 plenty good
Quote from: fountain2 on March 15, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
I only bought 3" loads..nit real sure why, but figured they would be easier for my wife to handle and still kill to 40-45 plenty good
They'll definitely have less kick than the 3.5" beasts...but they'll still give a thump anyway. ;)
Quote from: Philippe on March 15, 2012, 07:01:44 AM
Quote from: fountain2 on March 14, 2012, 10:02:08 PM
which is that? i have the 3/2/6 and the 3/1 3/4/6. i did not shoot the hv 1 3/4 oz today, but will tomorrow.
They are the Win XX 3.5" 2 1/4 oz loads my 835 loves the 6's out of a PG .670
I just got a Comp n Choke XXXfull in .670 I wonder how they will shoot from my 835....
For many years my old standby loads were 3" HV 5's and 6's. Now I'm going to try the 3.5" HV 6's in my new SBE2. In my experience the Win HV loads are as good as it gets for lead.
what chokes are folks running the HV's through?
Winchester HV #5or6
Winchester Double XX #6
Quote from: Mild Bill on March 24, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
what chokes are folks running the HV's through?
Indian Creek .655 for the HV 3.5in 6s
Indian Creek .665 for the HV 3.5in 4s
Not shot the HV 5s but would guess .660 but dont know
Chris
Quote from: Mild Bill on March 24, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
what chokes are folks running the HV's through?
In my Benelli SBE I shoot Win. Supreme 3.5" HV 2oz. loads of #6 shot thru a Kick's GT .655.
For years I have shot 3 inch winchesters out of my 835, both the black HVs and the red XXs. The red XXs flat out perform the black one, not really that close. The black ones are 1 3/4 or 1 7/8 (cant remember which) and the reds are 2 oz.
This past weekend I ran a Win XX 3.5 inch, 2 1/4 oz load through it and WOW! did it perform well. Around 140 in 10 inch circle at 40 yards with factory xfull choke.
I'm running Win HV #5 thru a Jelly Head 660 with excellent pattern and dead turkey down wind of it. I'm running 3.5 but last gun I used 3's with great results as well with this set-up.
Quote from: Mild Bill on March 24, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
what chokes are folks running the HV's through?
My BPS in a 22.5" bbl and a 650 using HV #6s .The HV lead loads lean toward the tighter chokes.
It is also quite possible to have a choke way more open in certain guns and barrel lengths and still get good patterns. I like to have a few different chokes in case another hot shell comes along.
From all the posts I gather that:
WIN Supreme XX 3.5" shells and at 2.25oz load of #6 seems to perform the best for lead in Mossberg 835 with around a 670 restriction choke
If you want better patterns then go Heavy-13 blend or straight 7's
any other thoughts or recommendations for LEAD?
Quote from: Nick_The_Tinkerer on January 30, 2013, 12:08:20 PM
From all the posts I gather that:
WIN Supreme XX 3.5" shells and at 2.25oz load of #6 seems to perform the best for lead in Mossberg 835 with around a 670 restriction choke
If you want better patterns then go Heavy-13 blend or straight 7's
any other thoughts or recommendations for LEAD?
That is where I am going to start for lead - well those and the Fed FCW 2.25 oz 6's.
Quote from: Daman on January 30, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
Quote from: Nick_The_Tinkerer on January 30, 2013, 12:08:20 PM
From all the posts I gather that:
WIN Supreme XX 3.5" shells and at 2.25oz load of #6 seems to perform the best for lead in Mossberg 835 with around a 670 restriction choke
If you want better patterns then go Heavy-13 blend or straight 7's
any other thoughts or recommendations for LEAD?
That is where I am going to start for lead - well those and the Fed FCW 2.25 oz 6's.
X2 same for myself and Ill shoot what I have on hand just to see since I bought a lead sled I should be OK :icon_thumright:
In a 2-3/4" shell thru my Browning A5, #6 in both the Win X (gray box) and Win XX (black box) do pretty good. I tried the #5 HV shells, but they did terrible for me.