I bought two ssx chokes for mine and my dads guns. Mine shoots good enough for me. Im shooting Hevi #6 and getting 157 at 40 yards. Dad wont buy the expensive hevis so he is shooting win high velocity number 6. and also tried the remington nitro #6 through it. We have had a time with this gun since we got it. Just cant find the right combo for it to produce like I want. It is well capable of killing turkeys, bc I have killed two with it. But the very best number we got out of it in its entirety is 57 at 40. I know its shoots great at 30 yards. with any choke at shell. it throws a good even full spread pattern at 30. But we have yet to get anything better than 57 at 40. Seems like after 30 yards it falls apart no matter what we do. Im sure if he would shoot hevi then it might put up better numbers but idk what else to do since he dont wanna shoot those.
Any advice? Im beyond annoyed with this gun.
What is the gun and barrel length?
Quote from: bird on February 26, 2012, 03:38:32 PM
What is the gun and barrel length?
Barrel measures 24" and gun is 43 1/4" in total without choke.
What brand and model is your Dad's gun?
Quote from: cannonball on February 26, 2012, 03:54:22 PM
What brand and model is your Dad's gun?
Remington 870 express
Open your choke up. You're too tight. JH .665, IC .665 of PG .670
PS. ...... I bet if you tell your dad that the SSX is a made in China that he will tell you to get it out of his gun anyways ?
Quote from: bird on February 26, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
Open your choke up. You're too tight. JH .665, IC .665 of PG .670
I had a hastings .665 I believe it was in it before with same results. But Ill give it a try.
I am shooting a Jellyhead .665 in my 870. I shoot Hevi's, but I sighted my Mueller red dot in with some Winchester HV 5's that I had to save my Hevi's. I didn't count the pellets with the lead shells, but I know I was getting over 100 hits in a 10" circle from 40 yards with lead. I would look at another choke and deep clean the barrel if this hasn't been recently done.
Quote from: Trevor2 on February 26, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
I bought two ssx chokes for mine and my dads guns. Mine shoots good enough for me. Im shooting Hevi #6 and getting 157 at 40 yards. Dad wont buy the expensive hevis so he is shooting win high velocity number 6. and also tried the remington nitro #6 through it. We have had a time with this gun since we got it. Just cant find the right combo for it to produce like I want. It is well capable of killing turkeys, bc I have killed two with it. But the very best number we got out of it in its entirety is 57 at 40. I know its shoots great at 30 yards. with any choke at shell. it throws a good even full spread pattern at 30. But we have yet to get anything better than 57 at 40. Seems like after 30 yards it falls apart no matter what we do. Im sure if he would shoot hevi then it might put up better numbers but idk what else to do since he dont wanna shoot those.
Any advice? Im beyond annoyed with this gun.
I have a couple of questions and a suggestion or two that you may find to be of help.
First of all, I'd recommend that you deep clean both the barrel and the choke tube. If you've already done that, then I'd recommend that you make sure the magazine end cap is tight. That's all that holds the barrel tight in the receiver.
I recommend "hand tight" and then using some padded pliers, tighten it 4 more clicks. It's good to mark the cap and the barrel band, so you can see if it's always in the same place. Some red nail polish is good. Just put a line across the cap and the barrel band.
If a Remington barrel moves, just as the shot is fired, it can scatter the shot.
Since you've seen this problem with other chokes with that gun, I just want to make sure of a couple of things.
You are shooting at big paper (cardboard) at least 3 feet x 3 feet and then circling the best 10" pattern after you've shot, correct?
You're shooting at some hunting like temperature, in the 40s at least?
Something is amiss. I have 21", 24", 26", 28" and 30" Remington barrels for 870s and 11-87s that throw excellent patterns with those same chokes and 3" Winchester HV shells with 1.75 oz. of #6 shot. That same combination won 2 World Championships, with Roger Burrell behind the gun.
Please let me know if there's something I'm missing. That should be a very potent combination.
Thanks,
Clark
Quote from: Trevor2 on February 26, 2012, 03:23:42 PMI bought two ssx chokes for mine and my dads guns. Mine shoots good enough for me. Im shooting Hevi #6 and getting 157 at 40 yards. Dad wont buy the expensive hevis so he is shooting win high velocity number 6. and also tried the remington nitro #6 through it. We have had a time with this gun since we got it. Just cant find the right combo for it to produce like I want. It is well capable of killing turkeys, bc I have killed two with it. But the very best number we got out of it in its entirety is 57 at 40. I know its shoots great at 30 yards. with any choke at shell. it throws a good even full spread pattern at 30. But we have yet to get anything better than 57 at 40. Seems like after 30 yards it falls apart no matter what we do. Im sure if he would shoot hevi then it might put up better numbers but idk what else to do since he dont wanna shoot those.
Any advice? Im beyond annoyed with this gun.
Dude, he's your dad!
Buy him a box or two of hevi 13!
Quote from: allaboutshooting on February 26, 2012, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: Trevor2 on February 26, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
I bought two ssx chokes for mine and my dads guns. Mine shoots good enough for me. Im shooting Hevi #6 and getting 157 at 40 yards. Dad wont buy the expensive hevis so he is shooting win high velocity number 6. and also tried the remington nitro #6 through it. We have had a time with this gun since we got it. Just cant find the right combo for it to produce like I want. It is well capable of killing turkeys, bc I have killed two with it. But the very best number we got out of it in its entirety is 57 at 40. I know its shoots great at 30 yards. with any choke at shell. it throws a good even full spread pattern at 30. But we have yet to get anything better than 57 at 40. Seems like after 30 yards it falls apart no matter what we do. Im sure if he would shoot hevi then it might put up better numbers but idk what else to do since he dont wanna shoot those.
Any advice? Im beyond annoyed with this gun.
I have a couple of questions and a suggestion or two that you may find to be of help.
First of all, I'd recommend that you deep clean both the barrel and the choke tube. If you've already done that, then I'd recommend that you make sure the magazine end cap is tight. That's all that holds the barrel tight in the receiver.
I recommend "hand tight" and then using some padded pliers, tighten it 4 more clicks. It's good to mark the cap and the barrel band, so you can see if it's always in the same place. Some red nail polish is good. Just put a line across the cap and the barrel band.
If a Remington barrel moves, just as the shot is fired, it can scatter the shot.
Since you've seen this problem with other chokes with that gun, I just want to make sure of a couple of things.
You are shooting at big paper (cardboard) at least 3 feet x 3 feet and then circling the best 10" pattern after you've shot, correct?
You're shooting at some hunting like temperature, in the 40s at least?
Something is amiss. I have 21", 24", 26", 28" and 30" Remington barrels for 870s and 11-87s that throw excellent patterns with those same chokes and 3" Winchester HV shells with 1.75 oz. of #6 shot. That same combination won 2 World Championships, with Roger Burrell behind the gun.
Please let me know if there's something I'm missing. That should be a very potent combination.
Thanks,
Clark
Thanks clark. I will check the cap. I just ordered everthing to polish the barrel and we were just shooting standard 12" circle targets. I will definately let you no how it ends up. Shooting at 58 degrees as well, with slight wind.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on February 26, 2012, 04:41:10 PM
Quote from: Trevor2 on February 26, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
I bought two ssx chokes for mine and my dads guns. Mine shoots good enough for me. Im shooting Hevi #6 and getting 157 at 40 yards. Dad wont buy the expensive hevis so he is shooting win high velocity number 6. and also tried the remington nitro #6 through it. We have had a time with this gun since we got it. Just cant find the right combo for it to produce like I want. It is well capable of killing turkeys, bc I have killed two with it. But the very best number we got out of it in its entirety is 57 at 40. I know its shoots great at 30 yards. with any choke at shell. it throws a good even full spread pattern at 30. But we have yet to get anything better than 57 at 40. Seems like after 30 yards it falls apart no matter what we do. Im sure if he would shoot hevi then it might put up better numbers but idk what else to do since he dont wanna shoot those.
Any advice? Im beyond annoyed with this gun.
Dude, he's your dad!
Buy him a box or two if hevi-13.
I would but with these recent price hikes im gonna shoot what I got and go back to winchesters as well.
Have you check the POA verses POI ? sounds like that my be off. I use a kicks gobblin thunder .655 out of my 870 and it shoots the win. Pd loads very good.
Quote from: nyhunter on February 26, 2012, 05:07:19 PM
Have you check the POA verses POI ? sounds like that my be off. I use a kicks gobblin thunder .655 out of my 870 and it shoots the win. Pd loads very good.
Ya its hitting low. If he aims at top of head he will hit mid neck to waddles.
Quote from: Trevor2 on February 26, 2012, 05:09:50 PM
Quote from: nyhunter on February 26, 2012, 05:07:19 PM
Have you check the POA verses POI ? sounds like that my be off. I use a kicks gobblin thunder .655 out of my 870 and it shoots the win. Pd loads very good.
Ya its hitting low. If he aims at top of head he will hit mid neck to waddles.
Hey Trevor,
That "Big Paper" may tell you a lot about what's going on with that gun. The end cap tightening has also helped a lot of Remington shotguns.
It will be good to hear how it goes.
Thanks,
Clark
Quote from: allaboutshooting on February 26, 2012, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Trevor2 on February 26, 2012, 05:09:50 PM
Quote from: nyhunter on February 26, 2012, 05:07:19 PM
Have you check the POA verses POI ? sounds like that my be off. I use a kicks gobblin thunder .655 out of my 870 and it shoots the win. Pd loads very good.
Ya its hitting low. If he aims at top of head he will hit mid neck to waddles.
Hey Trevor,
That "Big Paper" may tell you a lot about what's going on with that gun. The end cap tightening has also helped a lot of Remington shotguns.
It will be good to hear how it goes.
Thanks,
Clark
I tightened the end cap and will shoot it as soon as the chemicals for polishing come in the mail. I normally shoot a piece of poster board but was out this time so just shot the target. Ill get some more before we shoot again just to make sure. Thanks again Clark.