Just wondering why does everyone try to get the tightest pattern @ 40 yds. Where I hunt it is thick and a 40 yd. shot is very rare. Wouldn't it be better to use a more open choke in these situations? If I was hunting an area with open woods or a lot of fields those tight patterns would be needed, but what are the chances of a miss @ 20 yds. with a tight choke pattern?
Yeah, the whole 40yds as a measuring stick theory i believe goes back to the old days of lead(which i still use once in a while), where a 40yd shot was considered a maximum range! The NWTF uses 40yds in their still shoots as well i believe! The very, very tight patterns that some guns throw do result in misses of close range birds im sure! I consider myself very lucky to have never missed a bird with what i consider a tight patterning gun!!!
Most of where I hunt the shots could be from 5yds to 50yds depending on the woods and terrain. I get very few days a year in the woods and I want to know that I can be effective at 40-50. I have a good set of rifle sights for the close up work and I have shot my gun at 10 and 20yds so I know it is on at those ranges. I have killed birds from 15yds to 49yds, if they are in close I hold a little lower.
Thanks guys that explains it.
I like gobbler head mashed potatoes! :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Any given spring I'm in 7-10 states hunting turkeys. I shoot tight patterning guns because they give me the ability to increase my chances of success with hung up and field birds.
Some, like yourself, see sacrifice in employing such patterns at close range but I try to minimize the disadvantages and challenges presented by by changing where I aim if a bird gets ultra close.
I have never encountered a region or locality in my travels where a 40 yard shot opportunity was consistently unachievable.
To blow their heads OFF :gobble:
Quote from: Richyb on February 19, 2012, 06:59:06 PM
To blow their heads OFF :gobble:
:z-winnersmiley: :you_rock:
:OGturkeyhead:all people don't have a lot of woods in south ga. mostly fields so these guys and gals like to pattern there guns for the long shot.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on February 19, 2012, 06:11:02 PM
Any given spring I'm in 7-10 states hunting turkeys. I shoot tight patterning guns because they give me the ability to increase my chances of success with hung up and field birds.
Some, like yourself, see sacrifice in employing such patterns at close range but I try to minimize the disadvantages and challenges presented by by changing where I aim if a bird gets ultra close.
I have never encountered a region or locality in my travels where a 40 yard shot opportunity was consistently unachievable.
Everyone's hunting area is different. Where my property is located there is a lot of cutover and mixed hardwood and pines that was logged 10 years ago. No fields where we hunt except for the camp yard and a narrow power line that cuts thru one corner. There are a few spots in the hardwoods where a 30 yd shot is possible but I hunt where the birds are hanging out. With our mild winters down south the green up comes early.
Sure would make hunting cheaper not doing everything possible for the long range tight patterns. Cheaper shells, factory chokes... :you_rock:
If you miss at close range regardless of the size of the pattern it's the shooter's fault. If you use a scope or red dot you shouldn't have a problem UNLESS you flinch!
I try not to get mesmerized and let turkeys get too close before I shoot. But if they do get too close, I let them walk out a ways ,if at all possible, before I cluck at them hard, stop them, and get their head up before I take the shot. Of course, It doesn't always work that way, since I sometimes get too excited and forget my plan and what I'm doing.
I prefer tighter patterns for the knockout punch. I also dont like eating pellets from spread out patterns.
This is why. I want turkey head mush, not cracked teeth from biting down on a hevi shot pellet in the breast. This was 38 yards with the "Little Monster" 20 gauge...
When I first started turkey hunting, I had a 20lb double beard gobbler hang up 43 yards away on the other side of a large mudhole in the middle of a cutover road. At that time my effective range was about 25-30 yards. I had to watch him for over and hour, and could not get him to come around the mudhole. I finally got him 3 weeks later, but From then on all my guns will shoot 40yrds or I will work on them till they do.
Quote from: gobbler74 on February 20, 2012, 09:10:33 AM
I prefer tighter patterns for the knockout punch. I also dont like eating pellets from spread out patterns.
My thought as well , :agreed:
I get to hunt if I am lucky 15 times in season due to work and family. I have 5 gobbler tags and I intend to fill them! I dont want to watch a tom at 45 steps turn and strut off while I think man I wish I had a 45 yard gun.
I like them tight but not to tight so when hes 15 yards or closer its not like shootin a rifle were you have to be dead on :drool:
Quote from: decoykrvr on February 20, 2012, 03:29:27 AM
I try not to get mesmerized and let turkeys get too close before I shoot. But if they do get too close, I let them walk out a ways ,if at all possible, before I cluck at them hard, stop them, and get their head up before I take the shot. Of course, It doesn't always work that way, since I sometimes get too excited and forget my plan and what I'm doing.
Agreed. It's always easier to get the turkey to move away for a farther shot than it is to get him to come closer. ;)