just wondering anyone is in the middle of this occupy mess. i heard some coffee shops and other buisness's are haveing to let workers go .because of the all the crowds and good payng patrons lost. i luckily live in a small town where we dont have this problem. 'yet'
the thing that gets me is most of them are obama supporters but what they are protesting is a result of some thier great leaders policies reckon this is all made up by the lib.s in the administration
i say why dont they occupy thier time with something productive instead of wanting everyone else to pay thier way
Well said brother,, well said.... :icon_thumright:
If they would put that much effort into finding a job, there would be no occupying anything. They would all be to busy. Just like you and I..
Quote from: Hognutz on November 20, 2011, 10:25:18 AM
If they would put that much effort into finding a job, there would be no occupying anything. They would all be to busy. Just like you and I..
:icon_thumright:
http://www.owsexposed.com/ (http://www.owsexposed.com/)
Beats me why they think civil disturbance will gain them anything but disgust. Time for the cold water and high pressure hoses this is not about their rights to protest it is about a bunch of spoiled adults (in age only) whining and sniveling instead of working. And yes the Obama friend Van Jones is right in the middle of it. Disgusting at best.
I kindheartedly agree with freedoms of this great and grand Nation, but enough of this whining because someone has more then you. Coveting and complaining sure isn't going to move anyone towards any improvement in their life, financially speaking, in all aspects throughout the entire world, somebody will always have more and somebody will always have less, the true answer is to earn your living as best as you can, prove yourself to yourself first, then let the world rotate on its axis and go on with your life.
Protesting is fine, it is a freedom of expression, but to base it on HE HAS EVERYTHING AND I HAVE NOTHING AND I SHOULD GET WHAT HE HAS...is stupid. :thanks:
EXCUSE THE LANGUAGE ON THE SIGN BUT THIS IS HOW OUR TROOPS FEEL ABOUT THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/ace250semo/occupy.jpg)
{Time for the cold water and high pressure hoses}
thats the line of the day LOL but that will never happen in our touchy feely dont hurt my feelings world today
Yes, some have and always will have more than others, but if the disparity in wealth and income continues to grow at the accelerating rate it has for the last thirty years, you will see more of this kind of thing, whether you like it or not.
im a perfect example of how you can make it in this. country i worked full time at a walking horse barn riding colts in the 8th grade and finally had to quit school so i could feed and cloth myself .we did'nt even have lights and running water any where on the place hauled water for horses and ourselves for four years as a result of a sorry parent imo
we were dirt floor poor ill just leave it at that.
and im only 35 years old this was not normal in the late 80s early 90s .i bet not many of those sorry white trash SOBs ever had to heat water on a wood stove to take a bath. or had to wait 2-3 weeks to go to town to wash cloth's
fast foward 17-18 years i had a hard time for a long time i got my stuff together pretty quick when my little girl came i now have a decent house two paid for trucks a few guns and get to hunt some. noone ever helped me or gave me nothing my wife i work really really hard for everything we have and i be dang if i want people to use the power of the goverment to take what little i have worked my tail off to get
there is work out there if you look for it maybe not top magement but theres work after work i find extra work all the time. it all boils down to you have more than me and i want what you have without working for it
It's a shame where this Country is going. Most of the 99%er's just want a chance at a decent job and a level playing field. Since most of the major industry is elsewhere it's going to be a hard road ahead. The do nothing Congress doesn't seem to care about anything about America except their own political agenda. I remember a time when the city of Johnstown which is near me was hard to get out of at quitting time because of all the traffic. You had the wire mill, wheel plant, car shops, multiple steel mills and now they're all basically shut down. When I worked at the car shops in the late 90's all the steel came from China. Seems hard to believe that steel can be shipped here from China cheaper than a steel mill 100 yards away from the plant. Ceo's used to make 40 times a workers wage. Now it's 400 times and more a workers wage. I'll go out on a limb and say I'm a 99%er. The trouble in todays world there is too too much corporate greed. It astonishes me that Ford goes to Argentina and builds a plant to make vehicles because it's cheaper, but it doesn't bring down the price of the vehicle at all. Honda and Toyota build plants here and their vehicles are a lot more expensive. They don't have trouble selling them and I doubt that they pay their CEO'S the way we do. Just my two cents.
oh yea i agree im right there with ya the tax code and regulations are another thing that is killing us kinda like death by a thousand cuts
Quote from: Strut Buster on November 20, 2011, 04:14:37 PM
It's a shame where this Country is going. Most of the 99%er's just want a chance at a decent job and a level playing field. Since most of the major industry is elsewhere it's going to be a hard road ahead. The do nothing Congress doesn't seem to care about anything about America except their own political agenda. I remember a time when the city of Johnstown which is near me was hard to get out of at quitting time because of all the traffic. You had the wire mill, wheel plant, car shops, multiple steel mills and now they're all basically shut down. When I worked at the car shops in the late 90's all the steel came from China. Seems hard to believe that steel can be shipped here from China cheaper than a steel mill 100 yards away from the plant. Ceo's used to make 40 times a workers wage. Now it's 400 times and more a workers wage. I'll go out on a limb and say I'm a 99%er. The trouble in today's world there is too too much corporate greed. It astonishes me that Ford goes to Argentina and builds a plant to make vehicles because it's cheaper, but it doesn't bring down the price of the vehicle at all. Honda and Toyota build plants here and their vehicles are a lot more expensive. They don't have trouble selling them and I doubt that they pay their CEO'S the way we do. Just my two cents.
Your points are valid and I believe if Ford or any Company wants to go to foreign soil let them but do not let them import back here for resale under any conditions. If this was done there would be a lot of jobs here. It is not a few corporations of companies that make this possible it is our own fault for buying the cheapest things we can (no reference to those that have to) thus making it possible for our factories to leave this nation. I received an email that is too Long to share but the bottom line was, this year buy local products if you can, give gift certificates for local services (car wash, movie theater tickets, grocery store certificates and local restaurants for dinners and lunches. When you do this you "are supporting the work force here in this nation". My two cents worth.
Quote from: mossy835 on November 20, 2011, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: Strut Buster on November 20, 2011, 04:14:37 PM
It's a shame where this Country is going. Most of the 99%er's just want a chance at a decent job and a level playing field. Since most of the major industry is elsewhere it's going to be a hard road ahead. The do nothing Congress doesn't seem to care about anything about America except their own political agenda. I remember a time when the city of Johnstown which is near me was hard to get out of at quitting time because of all the traffic. You had the wire mill, wheel plant, car shops, multiple steel mills and now they're all basically shut down. When I worked at the car shops in the late 90's all the steel came from China. Seems hard to believe that steel can be shipped here from China cheaper than a steel mill 100 yards away from the plant. Ceo's used to make 40 times a workers wage. Now it's 400 times and more a workers wage. I'll go out on a limb and say I'm a 99%er. The trouble in today's world there is too too much corporate greed. It astonishes me that Ford goes to Argentina and builds a plant to make vehicles because it's cheaper, but it doesn't bring down the price of the vehicle at all. Honda and Toyota build plants here and their vehicles are a lot more expensive. They don't have trouble selling them and I doubt that they pay their CEO'S the way we do. Just my two cents.
Your points are valid and I believe if Ford or any Company wants to go to foreign soil let them but do not let them import back here for resale under any conditions. If this was done there would be a lot of jobs here. It is not a few corporations of companies that make this possible it is our own fault for buying the cheapest things we can (no reference to those that have to) thus making it possible for or factories to leave this nation. I received an email that is too Long to share but the bottom line was, this year buy local products if you can, give gift certificates for local services (car wash, movie theater tickets, grocery store certificates and local restaurants for dinners and lunches. When you do this you "are supporting the work force here in this nation". My two cents worth.
Agreed, they shouldn't let them back in for any reason. If they want to go to foreign soil, sell them there then.
i try not to give out gift cards to big box stores and rest. only local if i can
if i can find or afford american i buy it useually its the cant find it part
Quote from: Hognutz on November 20, 2011, 10:25:18 AM
If they would put that much effort into finding a job, there would be no occupying anything. They would all be to busy. Just like you and I..
AMEN brother!!
Forget the water and hoses, brake out the rubber bullets and a few mini guns.
my opinion on the occupy Wallstreet Movement is this
I am about to go to the bathroom and have a movement, afterwards I wouldnt even give the results of my movement to the OWS idiots.
Occupy a desk!
Just read Timothy 3rd chapter and tell me it ain't like reading the evening paper or watching the nightly news. :jesus-cross:
It really bothers me that all the industry and good jobs are moving overseas, and everything says "Made in China." It used to bother me that everything said "Made in Mexico" but I'll buy that if I have to and have a choice between Mexico and China. But the American people are to blame for this in their quest for "cheaper prices" It's just proves that cheaper is not better in more ways than one. Made in the USA is out there but people are too stupid or lazy to find it and buy it.
Here locally we have a company named CountryMark. They own their own oil refinery in Southern Indiana and all their oil comes from KY, IN and IL oilfields. They claim to produce 20,000 jobs in the tristate area. It amazes me how people go to the foreign oil gas stations that sit right next door to the CountryMark gas station. I've bought every drop of gas from them since I watched their first commercial about three years ago! Most Americans don't and probably never will see or understand the problem with the U.S economy.
really cant blame the companies that go overseas like someone else said there is something bad wrong when its cheaper to make steel in china and ship it here when there is a steel mill right there in town .
our tax code and enviromental regulations are some of the reason for campanies goin overseas
Quote from: woodchip on November 21, 2011, 01:53:23 AM
It really bothers me that all the industry and good jobs are moving overseas, and everything says "Made in China." It used to bother me that everything said "Made in Mexico" but I'll buy that if I have to and have a choice between Mexico and China. But the American people are to blame for this in their quest for "cheaper prices" It's just proves that cheaper is not better in more ways than one. Made in the USA is out there but people are too stupid or lazy to find it and buy it.
Here locally we have a company named CountryMark. They own their own oil refinery in Southern Indiana and all their oil comes from KY, IN and IL oilfields. They claim to produce 20,000 jobs in the tristate area. It amazes me how people go to the foreign oil gas stations that sit right next door to the CountryMark gas station. I've bought every drop of gas from them since I watched their first commercial about three years ago! Most Americans don't and probably never will see or understand the problem with the U.S economy.
you are correct in where one source of the blame is...Also, for the super big stores looking for profit there isnt as much to be had from usa made products for them. The majority of folks think CHEAP while stores think PROFIT. Most hard working americans want there own home, family and way of life. For other manufacturing companies in countries like China a factory supplies the housing quite often and a couple dozen people live together, get paid very low wages so they can crank out products that cost a 1/4 of the price. Those folks probably arent happy about it either but have been raised like that so they dont know any other way of life. American companies have exploited third world countries for that reason as well.
The very machine I typed this on for instance..I just flipped over the keyboard. Its made in China. ::)
You can't make money by producing goods anymore. You CAN by owning stock in companies that do all the crappy things we complain about. You still have to work hard, but it's a different kind of work.
Quote from: 2ounce6s on November 21, 2011, 11:18:28 AM
Just ignore the idiot at the beginning, Samantha Bee's interview was great.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-16-2011/occupy-wall-street-divided (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-16-2011/occupy-wall-street-divided)
Kind of shoots their thinking to a flush able substance.
If the cops put as much effort into arresting the bankers and politicians that got us into this fix in the first place as they have dealing with a bunch of protestors then there would not be any need for any Occupy protests. The police response to all this is a waste of time and resources. If the cops had not been so heavy handed then we wouldn't even know the protests were happening.
Quote from: Dylan T on November 21, 2011, 03:28:36 PM
If the cops put as much effort into arresting the bankers and politicians that got us into this fix in the first place as they have dealing with a bunch of protestors then there would not be any need for any Occupy protests. The police response to all this is a waste of time and resources. If the cops had not been so heavy handed then we wouldn't even know the protests were happening.
Really???
I guess the police held a gun to the head of the guy in NY that raped the girl in the tent, huh? But that isn't news worthy. The guy that took a dump on the police car probably wouldn't have done so if the police hadn't twisted his arm so tight, huh? What about the new reports of the protestor in NY that was paying $700 a night for her hotel room? I guess that was the result of the police too, huh? Waste of resources? Wow. The OWS folks have already cost taxpayers millions in overtime pay for police officers and public service workers. What about the guy in NY that commented about his plans to throw a fire bomb through Macy's window? Did police make him say that?
REALLY!!!???
Quote from: Dylan T on November 21, 2011, 03:28:36 PM
If the cops put as much effort into arresting the bankers and politicians that got us into this fix in the first place as they have dealing with a bunch of protestors then there would not be any need for any Occupy protests. The police response to all this is a waste of time and resources. If the cops had not been so heavy handed then we wouldn't even know the protests were happening.
Enlighten us---what laws did the bankers break??
Quote from: Dylan T on November 21, 2011, 03:28:36 PM
If the cops put as much effort into arresting the bankers and politicians that got us into this fix in the first place as they have dealing with a bunch of protestors then there would not be any need for any Occupy protests. The police response to all this is a waste of time and resources. If the cops had not been so heavy handed then we wouldn't even know the protests were happening.
There is a video on here recently posted that you might want to watch before you defend a bunch of uncoordinated juvenile (not by age but by actions) delinquents for making a fool of them selves. you are wasting your time here trying to make something legitimate out of tomfoolery!!
Quote from: catdaddy on November 21, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: Dylan T on November 21, 2011, 03:28:36 PM
If the cops put as much effort into arresting the bankers and politicians that got us into this fix in the first place as they have dealing with a bunch of protestors then there would not be any need for any Occupy protests. The police response to all this is a waste of time and resources. If the cops had not been so heavy handed then we wouldn't even know the protests were happening.
Enlighten us---what laws did the bankers break??
They don't have to break the laws. They and others own a majority of the people who write the laws.
Quote from: Struttinhusker on November 21, 2011, 07:11:02 PM
Quote from: catdaddy on November 21, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: Dylan T on November 21, 2011, 03:28:36 PM
If the cops put as much effort into arresting the bankers and politicians that got us into this fix in the first place as they have dealing with a bunch of protestors then there would not be any need for any Occupy protests. The police response to all this is a waste of time and resources. If the cops had not been so heavy handed then we wouldn't even know the protests were happening.
Enlighten us---what laws did the bankers break??
They don't have to break the laws. They and others own a majority of the people who write the laws.
So what laws did the bank owned politicans pass that so rankle your socialistic mindset?
Maybe it's what they didn't pass. But since the meltdown, they did pass the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act which is now under attack by the Republicans. Congress's approval rating is at 9% so I don't think I am the only one who thinks they are not looking out for the interests of the average person. But we may have different ideas about what those interests are.
Quote from: Struttinhusker on November 21, 2011, 08:20:34 PM
Maybe it's what they didn't pass. But since the meltdown, they did pass the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act which is now under attack by the Republicans. Congress's approval rating is at 9% so I don't think I am the only one who thinks they are not looking out for the interests of the average person. But we may have different ideas about what those interests are.
Still does not justify what is going on nor make the persons doing the protests any more credible does it.
If credibility means raising public awareness of the growing income and wealth disparity in this country, yes they are credible. If credibility means they now have a concrete plan to do something about that, no. And if credibility means every single one of them is someone you would want one of your children to marry, then probably not. But the fact that so many of you are that concerned about them probably means there is more to it than tomfoolery.
I dont think the OWS numbnuts have a snowballs chance of making any difference in the socio-econimic world. Most of these people dont have a clue about what is really going on. They are the bleeding heart liberals who rally around a cause like moths hang around a porch light. If you have ever seen the movie PCU, you will understand what I am saying. They are not of the opinion that the "rich" should give them oppertunities to make it. They feel the rich owe it to them and should give it to them. They truely want socialism. These people only want to suck of the teet of society while they sit back in their hooka cafe's and pass the bong water. I believe these folks are in the same category as PETA, KKK, NAACP, SEIU, etc. They have a cause, but even if the cause will hurt everything to accomplish, they dont care. SOme things are worth fighting for. WHat they want is something worth fighting against.
Let`s start at square one!! Ford moved their new plant because of epa crap and union crap. Unions used to serve a great purpose when they weren`t so greedy!! Now unions are all about lobbying and stealing your money!! Yes, I was in the union, on negotiating committees for 21 years I`ve seen how it works. OWS should be occupying the pharmaceutical co., and the white house. I would bet that legalized insider trading for the select few might have something to do with wall street. Why do you think It`s so easy for China and these other countries to import their goods? Someone`s getting rich!! Who makes it so easy for them?? That`s right the brains at the top!! The bottom line is we the AMERICAN people got sold out!! Now the next problem is so many people have gotten used to extended benefits they`re gonna fall into a rut and expect the jobs to come to them. Problem is we don`t have any jobs left!! Obama just gave the solar chip plant to China!! It`s all about greed. Hell; you know things aren`t good when Jimmy Hoffa endorses the president!! We fought the vietnam war for 10 yrs?; Now we import goods from them. We fight wars over the way people are being treated in these countries and still we buy there product. It`s a frickin joke!!!
Quote from: Struttinhusker on November 21, 2011, 09:25:11 PM
If credibility means raising public awareness of the growing income and wealth disparity in this country, yes they are credible. If credibility means they now have a concrete plan to do something about that, no. And if credibility means every single one of them is someone you would want one of your children to marry, then probably not. But the fact that so many of you are that concerned about them probably means there is more to it than tomfoolery.
No I am not concerned about them people are just tired of the crying and whining instead of trying something productive. Out here a while back we had the bicycle rider crowd take over the road ways in the Seattle area to a point a young couple could not get their car on the street and to the hospital as the lady was in labor, the protesting idiots much like a gang would not move or let them by. Worried no but they can be glad it was not my wife for they would also have been on the way to the emergency room or morgue their choice not mine.
Once again, a potentially worthwhile movement is ruined by the idiotic, fringe participants it attracts...just like the Tea Party. LOL! It really sells some news, doesn't it? :D
I just had an Occupy Movement. Ahhhhh, I feel much better now.
Quote from: CASH on November 22, 2011, 12:32:46 AM
I just had an Occupy Movement. Ahhhhh, I feel much better now.
Me Too and I named mine "The Prez"!
Once again, I find myself being fascinated by these types of discussions occurring on this forum.
I also find it most interesting how many here tend to blame the tens of millions of people that are being adversely affected by the current political/socio-economic conditions into which this country has fallen on each of those individuals rather than questioning the system itself. The consensus by the vocal here seems to be one of, "If you are in a bad situation, then it's your own fault."
Sorry, but I can't agree with that. You can't tell me that all of those tens of millions of people are where they are at because they are all slackers. They are there for a reason,...and that reason is that the system is, at least in some respects, broken.
We laud capitalism and free enterprise, and at the same time condemn anything that resembles socialism or, worse yet, communism. Capitalism and free enterprise work great,....as long as everybody plays by the rules, but unfortunately, human nature and self-interest tend to get in the way. As individuals, we are programmed for self-preservation, and preservation of family and "tribe", through our genetics.
Over the last century or so, that "survival of the fittest" mentality has been convoluted to one of "survival of the financially fittest". That is all well and good,...as long as everybody is "surviving" under similar condtions and circumstances. When things start to fall apart is at the point where too many individuals and their "tribes" are not able to survive within the system. We seem to be rapidly approaching that tipping point. ...And when that happens, you can scratch the "financially" out of the survival equation.
The Occupy movement is nothing but a message to the power structure that runs the system,...the politicians, the corporations, the financial system, the "financially fit",...that it is time for things to change. The Occupy Movement does not have to be organized or well-planned. The message is still the same. ....You back all of your dogs into a corner, and then don't provide them with food and shelter, and they will eventually turn on you. ...And if you don't feed or shelter them while you yourself exist in the lap of luxury, well,...the outcome is predictable. History has this often unpleasant way of repeating itself, time and time again. Unfortunatley, there are no more Americas left on the planet for those that want to, to escape to.
There are plenty of good dogs in this country that have been backed into the corner. It is time for the snarling and growling to be heard.....
Quote from: GobbleNut on November 22, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Once again, I find myself being fascinated by these types of discussions occurring on this forum.
I also find it most interesting how many here tend to blame the tens of millions of people that are being adversely affected by the current political/socio-economic conditions into which this country has fallen on each of those individuals rather than questioning the system itself. The consensus by the vocal here seems to be one of, "If you are in a bad situation, then it's your own fault."
Sorry, but I can't agree with that. You can't tell me that all of those tens of millions of people are where they are at because they are all slackers. They are there for a reason,...and that reason is that the system is, at least in some respects, broken.
We laud capitalism and free enterprise, and at the same time condemn anything that resembles socialism or, worse yet, communism. Capitalism and free enterprise work great,....as long as everybody plays by the rules, but unfortunately, human nature and self-interest tend to get in the way. As individuals, we are programmed for self-preservation, and preservation of family and "tribe", through our genetics.
Over the last century or so, that "survival of the fittest" mentality has been convoluted to one of "survival of the financially fittest". That is all well and good,...as long as everybody is "surviving" under similar condtions and circumstances. When things start to fall apart is at the point where too many individuals and their "tribes" are not able to survive within the system. We seem to be rapidly approaching that tipping point. ...And when that happens, you can scratch the "financially" out of the survival equation.
The Occupy movement is nothing but a message to the power structure that runs the system,...the politicians, the corporations, the financial system, the "financially fit",...that it is time for things to change. The Occupy Movement does not have to be organized or well-planned. The message is still the same. ....You back all of your dogs into a corner, and then don't provide them with food and shelter, and they will eventually turn on you. ...And if you don't feed or shelter them while you yourself exist in the lap of luxury, well,...the outcome is predictable. History has this often unpleasant way of repeating itself, time and time again. Unfortunatley, there are no more Americas left on the planet for those that want to, to escape to.
There are plenty of good dogs in this country that have been backed into the corner. It is time for the snarling and growling to be heard.....
AMEN!
The above sounds good but in reality it does not hold water. No one is saying the unemployed are the problem (themselves) but the protesters do not have a clue why they are there and no one is going to listen to them and a bunch of liberal college professors and students. If Socialism and communism is so great and you want it move to a country that supports it but ah they are in worse shape than we are so none of you are packing. Wonder why if it is the way to go that the lovers of this kind of life style are not on their way? Just wondering?
I cant wait for that New York winter to kick in and freeze these commies
I am thnking about trying this "Occupy" idea on that bad "posted" land where the turkies gobble so much , this spring.
capitalism works. crony capitalism does not,and thats where we've been for many many years. occupy movement isn't enlighting anything usefull to anybody. why do you think our dear leaders are takeing up for them?
Those mean dirty old banks were forced by law to make bad loans
Turn it around? I hope so. But I'm afraid the media will decide who gets elected.
Quote from: longspur on November 22, 2011, 12:31:23 PM
capitalism works. crony capitalism does not,and thats where we've been for many many years. occupy movement isn't enlighting anything usefull to anybody. why do you think our dear leaders are takeing up for them?
Those mean dirty old banks were forced by law to make bad loans
Turn it around? I hope so. But I'm afraid the media will decide who gets elected.
http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/community_reinvestment_act_had_nothing_to_do_with_subprime_crisis.html (http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/community_reinvestment_act_had_nothing_to_do_with_subprime_crisis.html)
Mr Prez is technically "The First Turd"!
Eat yourself a Fiber One bar and you'll Occupy some Movement.
Quote from: bird on November 22, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Eat yourself a Fiber One bar and you'll Occupy some Movement.
That way, it's easier to "teargas" one's self. :D
Ain't that the truth. I bought some Fiber One pancake mix a couple of months ago and my wife flat refuses to use it. I guess I'll have to make my own pancakes.
Quote from: bird on November 22, 2011, 04:07:44 PM
Ain't that the truth. I bought some Fiber One pancake mix a couple of months ago and my wife flat refuses to use it. I guess I'll have to make my own pancakes.
Or get a less toxic mix! :TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Quote from: GobbleNut on November 22, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Once again, I find myself being fascinated by these types of discussions occurring on this forum.
I also find it most interesting how many here tend to blame the tens of millions of people that are being adversely affected by the current political/socio-economic conditions into which this country has fallen on each of those individuals rather than questioning the system itself. The consensus by the vocal here seems to be one of, "If you are in a bad situation, then it's your own fault."
Sorry, but I can't agree with that. You can't tell me that all of those tens of millions of people are where they are at because they are all slackers. They are there for a reason,...and that reason is that the system is, at least in some respects, broken.
We laud capitalism and free enterprise, and at the same time condemn anything that resembles socialism or, worse yet, communism. Capitalism and free enterprise work great,....as long as everybody plays by the rules, but unfortunately, human nature and self-interest tend to get in the way. As individuals, we are programmed for self-preservation, and preservation of family and "tribe", through our genetics.
Over the last century or so, that "survival of the fittest" mentality has been convoluted to one of "survival of the financially fittest". That is all well and good,...as long as everybody is "surviving" under similar condtions and circumstances. When things start to fall apart is at the point where too many individuals and their "tribes" are not able to survive within the system. We seem to be rapidly approaching that tipping point. ...And when that happens, you can scratch the "financially" out of the survival equation.
The Occupy movement is nothing but a message to the power structure that runs the system,...the politicians, the corporations, the financial system, the "financially fit",...that it is time for things to change. The Occupy Movement does not have to be organized or well-planned. The message is still the same. ....You back all of your dogs into a corner, and then don't provide them with food and shelter, and they will eventually turn on you. ...And if you don't feed or shelter them while you yourself exist in the lap of luxury, well,...the outcome is predictable. History has this often unpleasant way of repeating itself, time and time again. Unfortunatley, there are no more Americas left on the planet for those that want to, to escape to.
There are plenty of good dogs in this country that have been backed into the corner. It is time for the snarling and growling to be heard.....
Very well put and said!!
Quote from: bird on November 22, 2011, 04:07:44 PM
Ain't that the truth. I bought some Fiber One pancake mix a couple of months ago and my wife flat refuses to use it. I guess I'll have to make my own pancakes.
Maybe send a box or two down to the sit ins and let them blow some more hot in the air who knows it might even clear them out, nah they like it to smell.
Quote from: GobbleNut on November 22, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Once again, I find myself being fascinated by these types of discussions occurring on this forum.
And again let me remind some of you that may have forgotten. This is a private site, not a public one. So if you as an individual do not like the Liberal, Socialist, Obama, Occupy, Leftest Bashing threads on this site then there is a very easy solution for you. Don't open the thread, Don't comment to it, Do log onto the site. In fact do yourself a favor as this site is not going to change one bit whatsoever and just delete your account. But continued efforts by a select few to "Irritate those of us that value our rights as free Americans can and will ultimately lead to you being shown the back door. I do know that a couple of you have been given warnings about this and this will be your Last and Final warning. Take your Socialist Koolaid Liberal Crap elsewhere as it is not welcome here on OG.
If you feel inclined to respond then be forewarned to Thread Lightly and choose your words Very Carefully!
bird
Quote from: mossy835 on November 22, 2011, 06:19:13 PM
Quote from: bird on November 22, 2011, 04:07:44 PM
Ain't that the truth. I bought some Fiber One pancake mix a couple of months ago and my wife flat refuses to use it. I guess I'll have to make my own pancakes.
Maybe end a box or two down to the sit ins and let them blow some more hot in the air who knows it might even clear them out, nah they like it to smell.
I really am surprised that nobody hasn't released any trapped skunks within these encampments yet. :TooFunny:
Talk about occupying movements,,I started takeing some Pro-biotics awhile back and the movements I occupied was makeing the dogs leave the room.