Still rule the HTL market in sales, patterns and still target shoot trophies if the shot was properly sized and not averaging .5-1 full size smaller than the label?
NOPE!
probably not. but as long as it slams heads the way it does now i will always use it :icon_thumright:
I doubt it.
Shane
nope
I think so
Quote from: VAHUNTER on February 15, 2011, 10:04:43 PM
probably not. but as long as it slams heads the way it does now i will always use it :icon_thumright:
:agreed:
NO
I am switching this year.. With the lies in the past and the irregular pellet sizes it just is not worth it to me anymore.. Heck Tranz had an average of 8.5s in his 6 load, who knows what we may end up getting in our 7s..
Too me their shells winning the shoots is like a PGA tour pro using a non regulation driver or the banned wedges.. Its unfair..
OR OUTLAW BALLS!! :lol: :TooFunny:
Nope.
Im may try something else myself this year.
personally i have never seen small holes on my patterns smaller than a #6 using #6's. now 7's yes.
i think H13 produces a great load. the best available off the shelf load at this time. atleast when it comes to turkey loads. JMO
Lesson learned...do research "before" posting pattern results. Embarrassed to say the least!!
What are the guidelines for loads? Does 12 #6 pellets, and balance being "whatever," in a 2oz load constitute a #6 load?
No doubt they make a good shell as the results speak for themselves, but "they should be what they are marked." jmho
:deadhorse:
Instead of labeling their shells #7's, or #6's, they could try "Lethal to 50 Yards", and "Lethal to 60 Yards". They'd probably sell even more shells that way. :TooFunny:
Quote from: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on February 16, 2011, 06:51:38 AM
Instead of labeling their shells #7's, or #6's, they could try "Lethal to 50 Yards", and "Lethal to 60 Yards". They'd probably sell even more shells that way. :TooFunny:
more like LUCKY at 50 and really really LUCKY at 60 yrds!!!!! :o
Quote from: S.C.C on February 16, 2011, 07:57:35 AM
Quote from: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on February 16, 2011, 06:51:38 AM
Instead of labeling their shells #7's, or #6's, they could try "Lethal to 50 Yards", and "Lethal to 60 Yards". They'd probably sell even more shells that way. :TooFunny:
more like LUCKY at 50 and really really LUCKY at 60 yrds!!!!! :o
:TooFunny: :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Heck I don't care as long as they SMASH a turkey's head like a MACK TRUCK!!! :fud: :newmascot:
I'll still shoot em! :smiley-char092:
bird
Quote from: bird on February 16, 2011, 09:23:53 AM
Heck I don't care as long as they SMASH a turkey's head like a MACK TRUCK!!!
I'll still shoot em!
bird
What he said.... :icon_thumright:
Quote from: bird on February 16, 2011, 09:23:53 AM
Heck I don't care as long as they SMASH a turkey's head like a MACK TRUCK!!! :fud: :newmascot:
I'll still shoot em! :smiley-char092:
bird
Yep.
Quote from: bird on February 16, 2011, 09:23:53 AM
Heck I don't care as long as they SMASH a turkey's head like a MACK TRUCK!!! :fud: :newmascot:
I'll still shoot em! :smiley-char092:
bird
thats what i'm saying :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
whats with Bash Hevi13 anyways??? if you dont like them dont buy them. that will be more shells available for the ones that use them :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
I think I will be set for a while. These are all hunting loads!
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e119/birdhunter50613/Guns%20and%20Calls/P1090134.jpg)
Quote from: VAHUNTER on February 16, 2011, 10:47:02 AM
Quote from: bird on February 16, 2011, 09:23:53 AM
Heck I don't care as long as they SMASH a turkey's head like a MACK TRUCK!!! :fud: :newmascot:
I'll still shoot em! :smiley-char092:
bird
thats what i'm saying :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
whats with Bash Hevi13 anyways??? if you dont like them dont buy them. that will be more shells available for the ones that use them :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
I know, man who cares if there is smaller shot. Last year was the proving grounds for me. The #6 and #7 loads are devastating to turkey heads out to 50, 60, 70 yds. I shoot TSS, but if for some reason I switched, I'd shoot 3.5", 2 1/4 oz, #6. My pattern numbers would come down, but my killing effectiveness would not.
Yes, they would still rule the HTL market.
EM uses better wads and better buffer than their competitors. If HS was perfectly round, it would still outperform the other available HTL offerings simply because they use better components. They also offer heavier payloads than the competition.
I have taken Hevi Shot and spent time to pick out shot until I had consistent pellets. It takes a while to do BTW. They shot very similar numbers as just scooping the shot from the bag. The reason? There is enough larger pellets to set off the smaller, resulting in a similar number of pellets per load.
H13 is the worst IMO as far as a micture of pellet sizes. When I buy HS in bulk, the pellets are much more consistent. I have only purchased one lot that had terrible variation in sizes, but the variation was for larger shot and snowmen type pellets. The lot had mostly round pellets, hardly any small pellets, but a bunch of large and irregular pellets. Since then, most lots have been pretty good with most of the shot being the same size, few small pellets, and few irregular pellets.
This has not been the case on the H13s I have dissected, and I've dissected 100s of h13s. They tend to have a large amount of large pellets and irregular pellets, but even then not many small pellets. When they have a mixture, its usually larger and irregular pellets based on my experience dissecting so many. Some lots were good, some terrible.
I feel this is the main reason why you can purchase h13 and have a similar number of hits for a few boxes, then have lower counts for a few boxes.
I feel it's best to at least check your pattern for a given lot. Most shells dissected from the same lot have been consistent for that given lot IME. Most of the time when you are at the store you can just find several boxes of the same lot. Most of the time when you order shells, they are of the same lot IME.
I suggest those of you that shoot factory ammo in CF rifles or pistols to buy from the same lots when you can as well.
Hope this helps,
Reloader
NO,it would not
Quote from: S.C.C on February 16, 2011, 07:57:35 AM
Quote from: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on February 16, 2011, 06:51:38 AM
Instead of labeling their shells #7's, or #6's, they could try "Lethal to 50 Yards", and "Lethal to 60 Yards". They'd probably sell even more shells that way. :TooFunny:
more like LUCKY at 50 and really really LUCKY at 60 yrds!!!!! :o
no way. with the patterns these shells put up theres no doubt in my mind I can smoke a bird at 50 every time. I have not patterened my gun at 60 though but Im confident the pattern would still be there
I just added another box last week. I'm still probably not done since I like to test.
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Dear Old Gobbler members,
Yes, please stop using those shells immediately....
Best Regards,
All the turkey Ive slayed with them over the last few years
yea there all junk!!! just send them to me. i will start disposing of them one at a time the first of April :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 16, 2011, 08:55:32 PM
I just added another box last week. I'm still probably not done since I like to test.
Hoarding is not nice! Send me some of those and that way all will be better :z-paddy-smiley113:
Quote from: Gobble! on February 16, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
Quote from: S.C.C on February 16, 2011, 07:57:35 AM
Quote from: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on February 16, 2011, 06:51:38 AM
Instead of labeling their shells #7's, or #6's, they could try "Lethal to 50 Yards", and "Lethal to 60 Yards". They'd probably sell even more shells that way. :TooFunny:
more like LUCKY at 50 and really really LUCKY at 60 yrds!!!!! :o
no way. with the patterns these shells put up theres no doubt in my mind I can smoke a bird at 50 every time. I have not patterened my gun at 60 though but Im confident the pattern would still be there
Just trying help keep all the back orders down this year!! :icon_thumright:
Quote from: bird on February 16, 2011, 09:23:53 AM
Heck I don't care as long as they SMASH a turkey's head like a MACK TRUCK!!! :fud: :newmascot:
I'll still shoot em! :smiley-char092:
bird
:agreed:
:icon_thumright:best shell. A few longbeards have met their demise to the #5's :you_rock: