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Title: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: arkrem870 on October 08, 2025, 06:18:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8WzJykWzfA

Tennessee study clip
Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: Tail Feathers on October 08, 2025, 05:26:46 PM
I doubt it.  Not anytime soon.  State agencies don't want to admit they were wrong.
Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: 3bailey3 on October 08, 2025, 06:45:23 PM
Can't see Akansas moving it back ever! Glad my home state, Ms. never caved and moved it back to begin with!
Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: arkrem870 on October 08, 2025, 09:13:12 PM
Arkansas proved this theory wrong a decade + ago. It's why many of us were confused when it took off like wildfire. And state agencies jumped on board wholesale with an easy pen stroke fix. Total hoax
Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: Notsoyoungturk on October 08, 2025, 09:56:37 PM
Tennessee still not start until the 11th.  It is possible this information was not available when they set the 2026 season dates.  We will see what happens in future years.
Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: zelmo1 on October 09, 2025, 06:13:46 AM
I hope not up here, I will lose 2 days at the beginning of the season. May 1st is still too late here but that's what we will be stuck with. We really need more support for our long range turkey management plan. I am vocal but don't have any juice where it is needed.  :OGturkeyhead: Z
Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: Greg Massey on October 09, 2025, 09:24:33 AM
Dates for my state have already been set for 2026 so I agree with others ... NO ....
Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: cwedding on October 11, 2025, 06:09:49 AM
Well... this information has been out there since April of 2024 and the TN commission has completely ignored the findings of this study when setting our seasons for 2025 and 2026. So I'm going to go with No, We will not be getting moved back to usual openers.

We interviewed Dr. Harper and Dr. Beuhler in April of 2024 if you'd like to hear more about this study-

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-turkey-hunter-podcast-with-andy-gagliano/id859529852?i=1000652354433


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Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: GobbleNut on October 11, 2025, 09:15:00 AM
It seems to me that IF it has been clearly established that the traditional/earlier season starting dates have no impact on breeding/fertility, then any decision to return to those traditional dates might best be determined by polling the state's turkey hunters to see what they prefer?...

Having said that, it is counterintuitive to me to think that starting to hunt BEFORE turkeys have had a chance to breed for a period of time prior to hunting them is a good idea...especially in struggling turkey populations. So, the question that comes to my mind is "when do the turkeys in a state actually begin to breed?"  Having a firm grasp on that might make establishing season dates based a bit more on science rather than "guess and by gosh" like it seems some states do.

My conclusion, or speculation, in this specific instance is that the TN turkeys in question are/were perhaps initiating breeding a week or two before the traditional early starting dates...which would indicate to me that there is some degree of breeding saturation occurring prior to hunting them. In my mind, that would account for the study's findings. 

Regardless, as a general statement, I am personally a proponent of a management strategy that includes not starting to hunt before the turkeys have had a reasonable opportunity to breed. I just fundamentally think that is a good idea. :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Will openers move back to traditional dates?
Post by: Tail Feathers on October 12, 2025, 07:25:39 PM
100% agree Gobblenut.  That should be the main consideration for setting seasons.