https://www.youtube.com/live/LzUD8ICkwGs?si=YotDPhma6eWcYefz
Start watching about 3:28:00
THIS..... is who holds the future of the Pennsylvania turkey population in her hand.
Somebody PLEASE tell her what day of the week it is.....
The whole board is like that. Going to those Townhall meetings are a joke the GC.has an agenda and their gonna stick by it come hell or high water. Im glad I get a free license now. :firefighter:
Pennsylvania has always employed sound management strategies. Don't expect that to change anytime in the foreseeable future.
Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on July 31, 2025, 03:51:52 PMPennsylvania has always employed sound management strategies.
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Surely you jest.
Did NOT expect to see them go against Sunday hunting ! Wow.
Hen survival has been shown in recent studies from multiple states to be the number one factor in population growth. Yet they will allow Sunday hunting in the fall, but not the spring?! A dead gobbler is a dead gobbler and has very little (if any) effect on population trajectory. Opening up 5-6 extra days of the season isn't going to hurt a thing, especially when PA already has such a conservative season framework. Hate it for the PA hunters!
Then the commission asking about sacrificing the second tag to let them get a 2-day youth hunt. lol. Just give the kids another day to hunt!!!!!! ~70% of the youth weekend harvest would be on the first day anyway.
Did you catch the part about only 2% of the fall harvest is hens ??
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I have heard 100s of wildlife and fisheries presentations and given many myself and that is easily one of the poorest I ever heard. No real answers strategies and a lot of mumbling. I would be embarrassed that that was on the web.
Quote from: Yoder409 on August 01, 2025, 11:11:06 PMDid you catch the part about only 2% of the fall harvest is hens ??
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Yeah and I'm still not sure where the 2% number got crossed up? 2% of the overall hen population? From their website it says over half the fall harvest is hens.
This is the same woman whose guidance has the PA season opening dead last. After New York, Michigan, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Quebec and Ontario.... All states and provinces lying predominantly or entirely north of Pennsylvania.
In no way trying to defend the presentation or the turkey management decisions involved, it seemed quite obvious that she was not comfortable with having to get up in front of the public and speak. That is a common problem for a lot of folks. Her superiors should realize that they should not be putting her in that position...or at least not without a support structure in the form of either some well-organized reference materials or another biologist at hand to fill in the gaps.
Compound her discomfort with having to deal with questions from a group of game commissioners that are also not well versed in wild turkey biology or management...and most likely have personal agendas that guide their judgement and decision-making...and this is what you get. Having dealt with the Game Commission in my state for decades, I have seen it over and over and over again.
As for the presenter, she may be a perfectly competent turkey biologist otherwise, but she was floundering like a fish out of water in the role she was placed in. The agency itself is as much to blame for that as anything.