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It's all a guessing game ....
Don't know and don't care. I have no interest in ever hunting there. Its their state, let them worry about it. States rights is a beautiful thing. ;)
The results vs. the facts on that first question will be.....interesting ;D
After this weird season, i'm sure we will see other states doing the same thing. Lots of people complaining
about not seeing or hearing and gobbling this spring.
Indiana is a one bird state. So not really a draw for non residents excepting the adjoining states or those chasing the Super slam. I've hunted Indiana a few times and compared to a state like Kentucky or Alabama with multiple tags available I didn't see nearly the amount of non resident pressure.
I did run into a couple locals that just couldn't believe someone would drive to Indiana for one Gobbler. I'm not into a slam of any kind but I do like hunting Easterns in rolling hills, and spring is just starting there when it's about over here.
I actually just took this same survey. I hunted Indiana for 4 days. Locals said "lots of pressure this year". I saw zero hunters and only one car at a gate and it too was an OOS'er (Kentucky).
I'm pretty sure I got in a guys spot one day tho, constant horn blowing then spinning tires as he left. Oh well, he should have got up earlier.
I heard 2 birds. But the weather was terrible and that's being nice. Constant rain. But that's usually the case anywhere I go lol
IMO, all States should go to a draw/quota for NR permits. After all are allotted, the left overs could be sold OTC....
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It is 100% true. Turkey hunters are their own worst enemy. Unfortunately, its a rather small % that ruins it for the rest. We've (both rez and non-rez) have lost more opportunities the past 5 years than we will ever lose to anti-hunters.
Every state needs to at this point.
The arms race is on.
I see some on social media saying they wont post anymore, some say they wont kill as many, some just say they wont share their kills but are still going to kill as many as they can.
Too little too late in the posting regard and those that are still going to kill their 20 turkeys a year, well, awesome. You essentially have helped zero.
If you're a killer, I would implore you to put some self restraint on yourself and not fill 10 tags in a single state. Perhaps even make rules on what is needed to take the shot. Those rules can get progressively harder.
I did the Indiana survey this week. Some of the questions were incredibly weird like a sixth grader wanting to know if they're popular with the class :toothy12:
I had the good fortune to tag out on private ground on the first day so I wasn't hitting public like usual. The chunk I hunted in 24 I hunted six days and only saw four trucks and they were locals.
Dang ol Indiana.......prob have information on their DNR website. And influenced thousands to travel and hunt. Now they are about to have to limit opportunity on us.
I'm a Hoosier and received the survey. I see and speak to many Turkey hunters and very few talk about non-resident hunters. So I really think the number is more like 3 per hundred or lower. A lot of private land in Indiana. As someone stated, not just a huge draw for this state. I personally do not think it is a big deal compared to say, Kansas, Tennessee, Missouri. But...the state is always looking to make a buck, so I'm sure they will come up with something. I'm fine either way.
Non residents have no representation in state government. Therefore they are easy targets. And restrictions against non residents are supported by residents because it doesn't affect the majority of residents to limit them. Even if it has no biological significance in wild turkey production.
Ark is correct. No representation= easy target. Yall know how I feel and next to Fla I hunt in one of the "victimized" states🙄. "We" our own worst enemy. Squeaky wheels get the grease , yada, yada.... don't cry when the only place you can hunt is your home state and you have to draw for even that opportunity....
Residents that didn't start the war, are now getting mad they are restricted when they want to travel to other states
Thus, in return they are barking in their own state to put restrictions on NR that want to come to their homes
It's starting to get comical really, how some who championed the restrictions the earliest, are now not liking being restricted themselves.
This is a spiral that won't stop until we're all miserable and limited to just our home states wondering "what happened"
Influencers started this crap with their huge followings of followers, but the reg ole boys are who barked at their legislators wanting to retaliate against the" influenced" crowds, but then in the long run are then being re-retaliated against (if that's a word)
It sounded like a great idea to the early season southerners, right up until states like MO, TN, etc are doing it back in return
The crowds absolutely suck/sucked, but I'm not so sure this is better.
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Quote from: arkrem870 on June 04, 2025, 01:44:37 PMNon residents have no representation in state government. Therefore they are easy targets. And restrictions against non residents are supported by residents because it doesn't affect the majority of residents to limit them. Even if it has no biological significance in wild turkey production.
Sounds almost like a representative democracy.
Right, more hunting pressure and more early season harvest couldn't possibly impact reproduction.
It's human nature to want something that's limited or in low supply. You see it every Christmas etc. same thing with these limited entry/draw/quotas..... now more people applying than were buying otc licenses before the quotas.
Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on June 07, 2025, 09:48:43 PMQuote from: arkrem870 on June 04, 2025, 01:44:37 PMNon residents have no representation in state government. Therefore they are easy targets. And restrictions against non residents are supported by residents because it doesn't affect the majority of residents to limit them. Even if it has no biological significance in wild turkey production.
Sounds almost like a representative democracy.
Right, more hunting pressure and more early season harvest couldn't possibly impact reproduction.
No data to back that up. We are still trying it a a decade + later.