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Post by: joey46 on May 18, 2025, 06:27:11 PM
Seemed to have lost a discussion.  Guess ok for the inmates to run the asylum. Too bad.  One of the biggest issues for today's modern day public land turkey hunters.  There is no seniority system for public land. Free access for all.  Mocking the new hunters or others in the area shows an unbelievable lack of class not fit for an established forum.  Whishy washy censorship a big disappointment.
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Post by: Old Gobbler on May 18, 2025, 08:50:53 PM
Perhaps I took it down because a former banned member who likes to re register fake accounts , came in here and made derogatory statements towards our valued members ...littered up the thread -

 I actually have a real life and trying to decipher the ramblings of individuals with severe psychological issues ...is not my thing , so I just take it down , and go about our real lives

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Post by: patternfreak on May 19, 2025, 08:57:35 AM
Seniority system for public land? I am "one of those young guys" at 27 years old, but this season was my 16th straight season of turkey hunting. Killed my first one at 11 years old and haven't quit since. I'd venture to say I have more experience chasing turkeys than most of the weekend warriors that are my "senior" on public land, so why should they get preference?
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Post by: Prospector on May 19, 2025, 01:05:11 PM
Quote from: patternfreak on May 19, 2025, 08:57:35 AMSeniority system for public land? I am "one of those young guys" at 27 years old, but this season was my 16th straight season of turkey hunting. Killed my first one at 11 years old and haven't quit since. I'd venture to say I have more experience chasing turkeys than most of the weekend warriors that are my "senior" on public land, so why should they get preference?

Public land is for the public. Old, young, experienced...and , yes, even dumb. I am personally against any kind of censorship even if it personally favors me. There are other ways to cut the crowds without reducing opportunities
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Post by: joey46 on May 20, 2025, 12:29:24 AM
I understand the situation but will adapt to it.  Will always challenge the elitist. No reason to sit back and see new hunters or any legal hunters, that includes influencers, mocked with impunity. IMO the new "ban culture" are the poster boys for selfish.
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Post by: arkrem870 on May 20, 2025, 09:47:51 AM
It's the guys that are speaking out against the commercial hunting of public lands that are selfish......not the ones who are hunting public lands for profit. $$

Strange times we live in. Social media is a hell if a drug.
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Post by: joey46 on May 20, 2025, 10:54:16 AM
Having trouble understanding your point. What's the difference in the two? What exactly is your latest ban crusade? Having trouble keeping up. If you haven't noticed commercial hunting on public land has been going on for decades everywhere.  One of the most common types of hunting out west and that doesn't include Alaska were most of the commercial hunting is done on public.  Always has been always will.  These commercial guides don't work for free.   The influencers don't either.   
The times really aren't strange but they are different.  Adaptability is the key to a stress free life.
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Post by: Zobo on May 20, 2025, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: Zobo on May 20, 2025, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: Old Gobbler on May 18, 2025, 08:50:53 PMI actually have a real life and trying to decipher the ramblings of individuals with severe psychological issues ...is not my thing


This could be my favorite thing ever written on this forum
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Post by: joey46 on May 20, 2025, 12:03:11 PM
You are obviously easy to please  :funnyturkey:

Pretty simple really.  Either you are on the "ban team" or the "reality team".  Very little common ground.  Yes at this time of my life and the time of year I have nothing better to do
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Post by: Greg Massey on May 20, 2025, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: Zobo on May 20, 2025, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: Zobo on May 20, 2025, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: Old Gobbler on May 18, 2025, 08:50:53 PMI actually have a real life and trying to decipher the ramblings of individuals with severe psychological issues ...is not my thing


This could be my favorite thing ever written on this forum
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:you_rock:


For sure, AMEN
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Post by: joey46 on May 20, 2025, 12:20:33 PM
Let's all bow our heads :angel9:
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Post by: NCL on May 20, 2025, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: joey46 on May 20, 2025, 10:54:16 AMHaving trouble understanding your point. What's the difference in the two? What exactly is your latest ban crusade? Having trouble keeping up. If you haven't noticed commercial hunting on public land has been going on for decades everywhere.  One of the most common types of hunting out west and that doesn't include Alaska were most of the commercial hunting is done on public.  Always has been always will.  These commercial guides don't work for free.  The influencers don't either. 
The times really aren't strange but they are different.  Adaptability is the key to a stress free life.

Your comparison of commercial filming on public land versus a commercial hunting guide on the same land has a fault. A commercial hunting guide is required to have a guide license, which are significantly more expensive than a regular license and insurance, another cost. To my knowledge where I live there are no attached financial requirements for filming on public land.
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Post by: joey46 on May 20, 2025, 07:39:31 PM
Why would there be? I can run up the road to a nearby WMA and film away with impunity.  Really have no objections if the filmers for profit are required some accountability in the form of a fee but that is a far cry from the "let's ban them dirty SOBs because they're attracting all these undesirable new people to my public land" we see here. Some need to Google the word PUBLIC and follow that Google with FREE ENTERPRISE. Basic high school civics.
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Post by: NCL on May 21, 2025, 12:40:35 PM
I was referencing a commercial filming on public land, not just anyone filming on public ground.
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Post by: joey46 on May 21, 2025, 01:20:03 PM
Gotcha but with states like MS requiring the filmers to have a hunting license it's becoming a moot point No real reason for them to have insurance either that I can see.  IMO more states will follow MS in this. If nothing else to be a money maker. Maybe we'll see a commercial filming license.  Be $10.00 for a resident and $500.00 for a non-resident if current trends continue. The residents will whine about the $10.00.  The commercial guys will pay the $500.00 and write if off as a business expense
 
The goal of many is to eliminate an entire industry by banning the commercial filming on public land . Some are a banning bunch. It's their last resort to return us to the 1980s. Would hate for any of the numerous banning hopes to come to pass. I like my camo netting, decoys, and TSS in my.410. Just a few of the items some elitist frown on.
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Post by: arkrem870 on May 21, 2025, 02:57:08 PM
Don't forget your trail camera use

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Post by: Zobo on May 21, 2025, 03:45:35 PM
Im not sure what you don't get Joey, nobody likes a profiteer who commercializes the temple :angel9:
Matthew 21:12
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Post by: WLT III on May 21, 2025, 06:07:50 PM
In this day and age, I reckon being an old fashion, Southern, "gentleman" turkey hunter, as myself, has its benefits. There is nothing that can be banned that would affect me in the slightest. :icon_thumright:
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Post by: joey46 on May 21, 2025, 06:23:34 PM
Quote from: arkrem870 on May 21, 2025, 02:57:08 PMDon't forget your trail camera use


Glad you're paying attention. You know you got the ball rolling on this again when you just couldn't help adding that last suggestion to your "surveys out" thread.
And the beat goes on. If some can quote Matthew I can quote Sonny and Cher.