I was lucky enough to win the 2024 Sumtoy giveaway! Got my Mossberg 500 20 gauge outfitted with a .562 from him, and the results are incredible, as they have been with everything I've ever had from William. Every turkey gun I use now has a tube from William in the end of it. Thanks William and OG!
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He does make some awesome products and is always willing to help...
I have a couple of his chokes on my guns and I was impressed with the results I got as well. Great guy to work with!
William is a genius, and very generous to the site ..I am very grateful!!!
Almost unfair advantage to us hunters! Almost. ;D
I had a very very opposite experience. I won last year's and was pretty disappointed. The tube I got did not have any indication of constriction on the box or on the tube itself. I think it was forgotten. I called and emailed after extremely poor performance out of my setup. I was hoping for a change in construction or maybe just swap it for one that I knew was actually what I had asked for. The response I got was. "That's a 410 for ya, try different things". While I understand every gun will have it's preference in choke and load, I expected a lot better customer service than "tough sh!t . Go spend some more money"
I'm running a SumToy in my Retay and love it
I've got Sumtoy chokes in my 12 and 20 and both outperform anything else I've tried...and I've tried a lot. They each have loads they don't like, but guess what? They all do.
Thanks William and thank you for being a site supporter.
Jim
I got a Sumtoy for my Weatherby 20 gauge and it shoots lights out with Apex 9's TSS. Love it!
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Quote from: msm210 on May 05, 2024, 11:00:10 AMI got a Sumtoy for my Weatherby 20 gauge and it shoots lights out with Apex 9's TSS. Love it!
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What constriction?
Quote from: BDeal on May 05, 2024, 05:54:56 PMQuote from: msm210 on May 05, 2024, 11:00:10 AMI got a Sumtoy for my Weatherby 20 gauge and it shoots lights out with Apex 9's TSS. Love it!
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What constriction?
562-5
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562-5 is an unbelievable choke and William has always been more than generous with his time, knowledge and product.
Great dude.
How tight is the 562 with TSS #9's at 20 Yards?
Quality guy putting out a quality product for sure!
Quote from: BDeal on May 14, 2024, 10:40:53 AMHow tight is the 562 with TSS #9's at 20 Yards?
I'm a miss them clean or kill them kind of guy.
562-5 puts out a 6" pattern at 20 yards.
I am running his choke on my tristar 410. Killed two turkeys with it this year. It is easily a 40 yard gun.
Tried a couple different chokes and then tried Sumtoy. Own three of William's now!
Quote from: Kyle_Ott on May 16, 2024, 08:53:40 PMQuote from: BDeal on May 14, 2024, 10:40:53 AMHow tight is the 562 with TSS #9's at 20 Yards?
I'm a miss them clean or kill them kind of guy.
562-5 puts out a 6" pattern at 20 yards.
That's about what mine measures with a Carlson .565. I would like it a little tighter.
I bought 2 chokes for my 12 gauge Invector+ last year. 665 and 675, I believe. They patterned well, and the 665 was the one that made the cut for my TSS barrel (I'm shooting an over/under). I tested several chokes and loads, and the Sumtoy was great. However, at the end of the season when I went to clean the gun I couldn't get the choke out of the barrel. I thought it had seized, which I couldn't understand because I used lube every time I changed chokes during patterning. I didn't put many rounds through it either. I had to get vice grips to twist it out. After cleaning, I tried to put back in, and it wouldn't go. My other chokes still fit fine, so I'm assuming the tube swelled. Not complaining, because I didn't seek any kind of resolution or explanation because I understand things happen. Was a little disappointed though. I will say that his willingness to answer questions and help me choose the right constriction to try was very generous. I'll keep trying the 675, and hopefully it will make it in the rotation one day,
William and his wife are good people and easy to work with.
After trying various chokes on different guns I went with Sumtoy and glad I did.
I've said it before ... their customer service is second to none