I have seen a few trumpets with flattened mouthpieces recently. I thought it was just a fad and wouldn't really make a difference. @Bwhana was kind enough to allow me to try one of his trumpets that had a flattened mouthpiece. Man that is a game changer. If you get a chance give one a try. I think you will be surprised by how consistently you are in the sweet spot immediately.
I like the mouthpiece to be oval shape at the tip , I can get more different sounds that way
I agree that they can be easier to play and more versatile.
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I imagine it's a lot more work for the maker since they can't just turn it down round on the lathe. Maybe that's why we don't see as many.
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The only point of a flat mouthpiece is to imitate the feel of a wingbone. That is why Mr. Billy makes a flat mouthpiece and that is why Mr. Battey did it on the new trumpet. It does naturally help the caller relax the lips. If you prefer a wingbone or use one more than a turned trumpet then you will probably prefer a trumpet with a flat mouthpiece.
I've been hunting with trumpets 20 or so years and I have a couple with flat mouth pieces.I don't see anything special. I actually am not a fan of them.I'll take a round or slanted mouth piece any day .
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I think the main concept of the flat/oval mouthpiece is it mimics the real wingbone shape more. It will appeal to folks who like that and can run them well. I get good sounds from round, but the other allows for a better seal with looser lips and more control for me.
Everybody's lips are different. Some like the MP flat or oval, some like it round and some don't care. And some like the oval VERTICLE!!! I won't mention any names, lol.
Point being, there's no right or wrong or better or worst....totally individual. Have fun!!!
You can get more than one hen sound with a flat mouthpiece... IMO
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2024, 01:01:52 PM
You can get more than one hen sound with a flat mouthpiece... IMO
You can do that with any mouthpiece
Quote from: EZ on March 30, 2024, 11:52:22 AM
Everybody's lips are different. Some like the MP flat or oval, some like it round and some don't care. And some like the oval VERTICLE!!! I won't mention any names, lol.
Point being, there's no right or wrong or better or worst....totally individual. Have fun!!!
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Quote from: davisd9 on March 30, 2024, 01:13:52 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2024, 01:01:52 PM
You can get more than one hen sound with a flat mouthpiece... IMO
You can do that with any mouthpiece
Never said you couldn't... I just made a comment about the flat mouthpiece ...
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2024, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on March 30, 2024, 01:13:52 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2024, 01:01:52 PM
You can get more than one hen sound with a flat mouthpiece... IMO
You can do that with any mouthpiece
Never said you couldn't... I just made a comment about the flat mouthpiece ...
I am aware of that, but that statement is not just applicable to flat mouthpieces. It may be easier for some to do it on a flat mouthpiece but different hens come from air control and techniques.
Quote from: davisd9 on March 30, 2024, 03:35:25 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2024, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on March 30, 2024, 01:13:52 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 30, 2024, 01:01:52 PM
You can get more than one hen sound with a flat mouthpiece... IMO
You can do that with any mouthpiece
Never said you couldn't... I just made a comment about the flat mouthpiece ...
I am aware of that, but that statement is not just applicable to flat mouthpieces. It may be easier for some to do it on a flat mouthpiece but different hens come from air control and techniques.
I will agree with your statement, but for some it may be easier for them to get those sounds on a flat mouthpiece instead of a round.. Like EZ said lips are different for people in using mouthpieces..
Mr. Buice told me once he preferred the wingbone mouthpiece, he took the time to put one in several trumpets he played over the phone for me.
I prefer a flat wingbone type MP in a trumpet if I'm not using a wingbone.
Quote from: aclawrence on March 30, 2024, 09:07:10 AM
I imagine it's a lot more work for the maker since they can't just turn it down round on the lathe. Maybe that's why we don't see as many.
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Great reply, especially with polymer tips as they have to be filed by hand to shape. The flat is easier than the oval but they do take more work especially if you want them to look like instrument grade work.
I personally like an oval too. I make a smaller oval that plays much like a round but has that little extra surface area to give some more rasp.
Quote from: crow on March 30, 2024, 03:55:07 PM
Mr. Buice told me once he preferred the wingbone mouthpiece, he took the time to put one in several trumpets he played over the phone for me.
I agree Crow. I have a Watkins that has 2 separate hen bone mouth pieces and they sound much better. I just worry about breaking them when I hunt with it.
Quote from: aclawrence on March 30, 2024, 09:07:10 AMI imagine it's a lot more work for the maker since they can't just turn it down round on the lathe. Maybe that's why we don't see as many.
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Bingo, you are absolutely correct. Ovals specifically take longer as they have to be filed and sanded by hand, flats are a little easier but still take time compared to just turning the tip.
This is one of the many cool things about trumpets. They are so versatile. You can change your sound based on playing style, hand position, lip tension, air speed and mouthpiece. So many factors go into making the trumpet's notes.