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Title: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 10:26:18 AM
Can trumpets, wingbones and other callers go bad over time? The reason I ask, I saw a recent video with Billy Buice checking a trumpet with pressure to see if it still held. Mr Billy was playing his first Ivory caller he made in the video ... The video is under: Vintage Turkey Calls and Literature Collector ... Facebook ....
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: outdoors on September 29, 2023, 11:13:52 AM
He might be doing that because he has his own specks
I have and still use on occasions my first wingbone I bought
About 13years ago
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: ol bob on September 29, 2023, 11:22:22 AM
No. I have played the Jorden call, and a couple of the Davis calls, and they still sound great, and that about as old as you can get.
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: ol bob on September 29, 2023, 11:22:22 AM
No. I have played the Jorden call, and a couple of the Davis calls, and they still sound great, and that about as old as you can get.
It was interesting to watch him in the video with the caller .. And they talked about if the caller was still playable ... which it was .... amazing .... thanks Bob..
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: crow on September 29, 2023, 11:35:22 AM
I had a trumpet that drew air nice and then it didn't, a tiny hole opened up at a knot in the wood ( a knot-hole, but the knot didn't come out just must have shrank) causing air leakage, CA glue fixed that.

I don't see internals changing, unless the wood wasn't properly cured.
Air leakage could be possible if glue came loose holding in mouthpiece.
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: crow on September 29, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Last year a very nice trumpet for sound/air draw changed. A stinkbug had crawled up inside partially blocking air-draw and sound
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 01:46:28 PM
Quote from: crow on September 29, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Last year a very nice trumpet for sound/air draw changed. A stinkbug had crawled up inside partially blocking air-draw and sound

:TooFunny: :TooFunny: This would only happen to you, you have got to stop leaving your callers in tal garage ...  :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Yoder409 on September 29, 2023, 02:18:32 PM
Quote from: crow on September 29, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Last year a very nice trumpet for sound/air draw changed. A stinkbug had crawled up inside partially blocking air-draw and sound


What did you notice first ??  The change in draw ??  The change in sound ??  Or the change in taste ???
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: greentrout on September 29, 2023, 02:26:08 PM
I think Mr. Billy was only checking because it was made of ivory. That was my guess anyway.
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: tal on September 29, 2023, 02:35:40 PM
 I've been looking for my pet stinkbug.
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: EZ on September 29, 2023, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 01:46:28 PM
Quote from: crow on September 29, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Last year a very nice trumpet for sound/air draw changed. A stinkbug had crawled up inside partially blocking air-draw and sound

:TooFunny: :TooFunny: This would only happen to you, you have got to stop leaving your callers in tal garage ...  :TooFunny:

A "stink bug baffle"!!!! Hmmmm....the wheels are turning  ;D
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: davisd9 on September 29, 2023, 03:49:30 PM
I am sure like anything if not taken care of then issues can arises. Most are made of woods and environmental issues can cause problems without proper care. Renaissance Wax protects calls outside and mineral oil inside.
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Bedge7767 on September 29, 2023, 05:01:52 PM
He didn't use metal threads in that call. He turned the ivory to fit and he was just checking the threads of the ivory.
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Ranger on September 29, 2023, 05:02:36 PM
He was checking for an occlusion. Ivory can change with small cracks becoming big problems if not stored properly or from just change in the pressure from turning the ivory. Even if the crack isn't all the way through the expansion can make big changes in pitch and tone. Nothing I knew, learned this from Dewey Johnson
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on September 29, 2023, 03:49:30 PM
I am sure like anything if not taken care of then issues can arises. Most are made of woods and environmental issues can cause problems without proper care. Renaissance Wax protects calls outside and mineral oil inside.

How are you putting mineral oil on the inside of the wood trumpets ... Care to tell us ?
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: 3bailey3 on September 29, 2023, 06:54:20 PM
Anyone have a link for us non book of faces folks?
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Yoder409 on September 29, 2023, 07:18:59 PM
Quote from: EZ on September 29, 2023, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 01:46:28 PM
Quote from: crow on September 29, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Last year a very nice trumpet for sound/air draw changed. A stinkbug had crawled up inside partially blocking air-draw and sound

:TooFunny: :TooFunny: This would only happen to you, you have got to stop leaving your callers in tal garage ...  :TooFunny:

A "stink bug baffle"!!!! Hmmmm....the wheels are turning  ;D

I smell smoke.    :toothy9:
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: davisd9 on September 29, 2023, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on September 29, 2023, 03:49:30 PM
I am sure like anything if not taken care of then issues can arises. Most are made of woods and environmental issues can cause problems without proper care. Renaissance Wax protects calls outside and mineral oil inside.

How are you putting mineral oil on the inside of the wood trumpets ... Care to tell us ?

Drop a few drops in end of barrel and let it run down and around. Turn it up on a towel and let excess run out. Wipe excess with cloth. Read it somewhere one time.
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 08:06:15 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on September 29, 2023, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on September 29, 2023, 03:49:30 PM
I am sure like anything if not taken care of then issues can arises. Most are made of woods and environmental issues can cause problems without proper care. Renaissance Wax protects calls outside and mineral oil inside.

How are you putting mineral oil on the inside of the wood trumpets ... Care to tell us ?

Drop a few drops in end of barrel and let it run down and around. Turn it up on a towel and let excess run out. Wipe excess with cloth. Read it somewhere one time.
Thanks
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: crow on September 29, 2023, 08:06:46 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on September 29, 2023, 02:18:32 PM
Quote from: crow on September 29, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Last year a very nice trumpet for sound/air draw changed. A stinkbug had crawled up inside partially blocking air-draw and sound


What did you notice first ??  The change in draw ??  The change in sound ??  Or the change in taste ???



it was the air draw, no smell at all, he was in his winter hibernation
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: crow on September 29, 2023, 08:12:28 PM
Quote from: EZ on September 29, 2023, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on September 29, 2023, 01:46:28 PM
Quote from: crow on September 29, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Last year a very nice trumpet for sound/air draw changed. A stinkbug had crawled up inside partially blocking air-draw and sound

:TooFunny: :TooFunny: This would only happen to you, you have got to stop leaving your callers in tal garage ...  :TooFunny:


go with a locust, really adds to the rasp

A "stink bug baffle"!!!! Hmmmm....the wheels are turning  ;D
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: TurkinTone on September 29, 2023, 08:23:04 PM
Quote from: Bedge7767 on September 29, 2023, 05:01:52 PM
He didn't use metal threads in that call. He turned the ivory to fit and he was just checking the threads of the ivory.


Nailed it.
Title: Re: Old / Older Callers
Post by: Tarheel on September 29, 2023, 10:58:36 PM
Quote from: Bedge7767 on September 29, 2023, 05:01:52 PM
He didn't use metal threads in that call. He turned the ivory to fit and he was just checking the threads of the ivory.


This......