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Contact Mr. Stowe, he makes a pocket trumpet.
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Mr. Bob Buckner made this adjustable trumpet. They play fantastic. When I run it shorter it is a little higher pitched but sounds great. But finding one maybe a trick. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220401/f8000f4e19f1dc9e501a9fc8e5d4ab10.jpg)
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I think both Billy Buice and Ralph Permar make a 5.5 but either would take some time to acquire.
Anthony Ellis T5 is slightly shorter. Martin Ellenburg's trumpets are shorter calls (may be too open a bell design for smaller hands). Permar makes some shorter, particularly the 1917 and 1920 calls are substantially shorter than most trumpets as they represent that first step after the Jordan. That would be a great option for her, a 1917, but you would likely have to wait out a list. Might also think about just a Jordan or a tree yelper, as both are shorter designs. The Jordan may be the best option as it's also smaller at the end. Less modulation of sound but may be a call that fits her hand great. All in all, if it's a trumpet I vote a Permar 1917.
As far as sound, shorter calls play quicker. That's really it. The rollover is much quicker. I actually prefer the clucks on shorter calls. Some folks prefer that quicker sound altogether, EZ, Tony Ezolt, being one of them. Tony loves a fast call and he can sure run one. She won't lose anything as far as sound by playing a shorter call, and she may very well gain a lot by just having something that fits her hand better.
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All good suggestions above, but a Wingbone may be a good choice for her. They are usually shorter and the smaller diameter may be easier for her.
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GREAT PIC!!!! That's a heart warming photo to any yelper man or woman, lol.
Yes, length certainly affects sound, but the people who build the calls already have that figured in. In general, the shorter calls have a quicker roll-over.
I put gobbler radius bones in shotgun shells with a little faucet washer lipstop to give out to kids at shows to practice on. These calls are no joke and it's surprising how good they sound.
One of my favorite yelpers is a 410 shell with a wing bone mouthpiece. Fred Cox made me a really nice one and also have a great one from Jim McNeil.
We'll definitely look into the suggestions from you all, not so easy to get some of these, especially these days, but the comments are greatly appreciated, Thank you!
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GREAT PIC!!!! That's a heart warming photo to any yelper man or woman, lol.
Yes, length certainly affects sound, but the people who build the calls already have that figured in. In general, the shorter calls have a quicker roll-over.
I put gobbler radius bones in shotgun shells with a little faucet washer lipstop to give out to kids at shows to practice on. These calls are no joke and it's surprising how good they sound.
Thanks so much EZ! That's interesting info you shared too. I did ask her about a getting a nice little wingbone and she informed me how gross the idea of putting a dead turkey's wing bone in her mouth would be, lol! I told her she eats chicken wings all the time, she said it's not the same thing; it's hard to rationalize with an 11 year old sometimes! I'm just glad and blessed she likes to go "turkying" with her dad from time to time.
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Anthony Ellis T5 is slightly shorter. Martin Ellenburg's trumpets are shorter calls (may be too open a bell design for smaller hands). Permar makes some shorter, particularly the 1917 and 1920 calls are substantially shorter than most trumpets as they represent that first step after the Jordan. That would be a great option for her, a 1917, but you would likely have to wait out a list. Might also think about just a Jordan or a tree yelper, as both are shorter designs. The Jordan may be the best option as it's also smaller at the end. Less modulation of sound but may be a call that fits her hand great. All in all, if it's a trumpet I vote a Permar 1917.
As far as sound, shorter calls play quicker. That's really it. The rollover is much quicker. I actually prefer the clucks on shorter calls. Some folks prefer that quicker sound altogether, EZ, Tony Ezolt, being one of them. Tony loves a fast call and he can sure run one. She won't lose anything as far as sound by playing a shorter call, and she may very well gain a lot by just having something that fits her hand better.
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Chester, thanks for your input, I was able to get in touch with RP and order the 1917 you suggested. It is over an inch shorter than the shortest trumpet I own so I think it'll fit her a little better. Of course by the time she gets it she may be fully grown, lol!
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Chester, thanks for your input, I was able to get in touch with RP and order the 1917 you suggested. It is over an inch shorter than the shortest trumpet I own so I think it'll fit her a little better. Of course by the time she gets it she may be fully grown, lol!
Over the past three or four years I usually get a call from Ralph every eight to nine months. That seems to be about the turnaround time on his list nowadays. Well worth the wait. This is my 1917 from him. In my opinion he's top three or four doing it and I personally value him and what he's done to preserve call history more than any other maker alive. He's an absolute treasure. The 1917 is a cool call with a cool history and it'll most definitely suit her well.
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Dang that's a beauty!!!
Real nice Dave....beauty
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The rollover can be faster and they will usually be a tad higher pitched. Someone may have already said that in this thread, so if so I did not mean to steal their comments. But I mainly chime in to also say that a really good cane reed call might be her best friend for a couple of years. There is a nice guy on ebay who makes a pretty decent one for less than twenty bucks and I have slayed birds with them. He could even shorter it a hair more if it would help her. If interested, let me know and I can help you run him down. Tiny little calls and they sound just about like a jordan yelper and are pretty easy to run. For the money you just cannot beat them.
That's a little heirloom right there! It's looks pretty small 7"?
I'm excited to give her anything even remotely close to that to her. I told Ralph her only request was a lighter wood color but it's gorgeous in that darker wood. (ABW?)
It's a splurge for me for sure but I wanted to get her a classic looking type. That 1917 will be nicer than any trumpet I own, that's for sure. At least its a hell of a lot cheaper than the violin I had to buy her.
And, yeah, you know I'll be "borrowing" it from time to time when nobody's looking!
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Chester, thanks for your input, I was able to get in touch with RP and order the 1917 you suggested. It is over an inch shorter than the shortest trumpet I own so I think it'll fit her a little better. Of course by the time she gets it she may be fully grown, lol!
Over the past three or four years I usually get a call from Ralph every eight to nine months. That seems to be about the turnaround time on his list nowadays. Well worth the wait. This is my 1917 from him. In my opinion he's top three or four doing it and I personally value him and what he's done to preserve call history more than any other maker alive. He's an absolute treasure. The 1917 is a cool call with a cool history and it'll most definitely suit her well.
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Very nice indeed!
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I love Lewis's trumpets, super easy running, lightweight, good looking, nice sounding, winners all around. Didn't know about this little pocket one, looks awesome thanks for the heads up!!!
There is a nice guy on ebay who makes a pretty decent one for less than twenty bucks and I have slayed birds with them. He could even shorter it a hair more if it would help her. If interested, let me know and I can help you run him down. Tiny little calls and they sound just about like a jordan yelper and are pretty easy to run. For the money you just cannot beat them.
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That's a little heirloom right there! It's looks pretty small 7"?
I'm excited to give her anything even remotely close to that to her. I told Ralph her only request was a lighter wood color but it's gorgeous in that darker wood. (ABW?)
It's a splurge for me for sure but I wanted to get her a classic looking type. That 1917 will be nicer than any trumpet I own, that's for sure. At least its a hell of a lot cheaper than the violin I had to buy her.
And, yeah, you know I'll be "borrowing" it from time to time when nobody's looking!
Yes, that call was blackwood. Everything I've got from Ralph is blackwood or delrin. Started by accident and then the collection just stayed black. One thing you could do that might be fun for your daughter is to ask Ralph about specific dimensions he'd need on a blank and then she could pick out a blank from one of the wood sites to mail him. You've got plenty of time. If you'd like some suggestions on those sites let me know and I'll message you some places.
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Quote from: Zobo on April 02, 2022, 10:12:16 AM
That's a little heirloom right there! It's looks pretty small 7"?
I'm excited to give her anything even remotely close to that to her. I told Ralph her only request was a lighter wood color but it's gorgeous in that darker wood. (ABW?)
It's a splurge for me for sure but I wanted to get her a classic looking type. That 1917 will be nicer than any trumpet I own, that's for sure. At least its a hell of a lot cheaper than the violin I had to buy her.
And, yeah, you know I'll be "borrowing" it from time to time when nobody's looking!
Yes, that call was blackwood. Everything I've got from Ralph is blackwood or delrin. Started by accident and then the collection just stayed black. One thing you could do that might be fun for your daughter is to ask Ralph about specific dimensions he'd need on a blank and then she could pick out a blank from one of the wood sites to mail him. You've got plenty of time. If you'd like some suggestions on those sites let me know and I'll message you some places.
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Sure, I'd be interested in those site suggestions. Thanks!