Will a jake breed a hen or at what point can they breed? I did a search on the forum and couldn't find if this had been discussed before so I apologize if it has. Just a discussion I recently had with someone. I've seen plenty of long beards breed hens but never a jake.
Good question. I have to believe they could. I accidentally killed a hard gobbling Jake a few years ago and I bet he would have bred a hen if he had the chance.
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They do. I had always thought it was as good as a gobbler, they just didn't get the chance often. Recent research shows poor fertility due to testes development so I'm no longer sure. They'll definitely go through the motions
They will definitely try given the opportunity, but I don't think there is any research yet showing that they can successfully breed.
They absolutely can successfully breed. I wasn't sure until I started raising Easterns. We had a flock of juveniles that we wanted fertile eggs from. I brought in an adult Tom to be sure. The jakes bred like Champs. Hatched 170 that first spring and summer.
There's ongoing research but I think from what I've read it's kinda a Jake by Jake thing whether they are reliable breeders.
Back in the trap and transfer days I recall being told by the trap/transfer folks there several instances whereas jake(s) and hens were released in an area. Procreation occurred.
Just heard Dr. Chamberlain on a podcast discussing this. A big study in TX some years ago proved that most jakes can not successfully breed a hen. There are some that can but it's not a yes or no answer. Statistically the percentage is small for the ones that can.
Whether they can or cannot is apparently debatable from the posts above. The one thing I will contribute here is that, in most cases, if your spring gobbler season is set at the proper time, this is something that will not have to be worried about.
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This is good info. I have seen a jake mount a hen but not sure if it was just successful
There's a study going on this year in Alabama with funding help from TFT that asks hunters to send in the gonads from Jake's shot this season to determine whether or not thier sperm is viable. Theory on the viability of Jake's and subordinate gobbler is they don't produce enough testosterone to make viable sperm. Only Jake's will be involved in the Al study this season
If I remember correctly there was an article last year that that stated 75% of jakes start the season infertile and a small amount of those may become fertile by the end of the season.
Here is one that talks about jakes low success rates at breeding, but not for the reason I mentioned above, I will try to find the other for you. Start reading under the picture of the deep fried turkey. http://magazine.outdoornebraska.gov/2020/05/the-great-jake-debate-continues/
I appreciate all the replies. Very good info here. I live in the Southeast where turkey population have been in a decline for awhile. Youth are the only ones that can take a jake here which I kind of like especially if there is not a guarantee that they can breed. Do any feel like other states should make it legal for youth only to kill a jake? Not trying to start a big debate. I'm just wondering if that could help in declining populations? Most of what I've read suggest there really isn't any science to support that. Could it be a puzzle piece along with all the other reasons in population decline?
Old timers don't think so.
Quote from: Gooserbat on March 31, 2022, 09:54:21 AM
There's ongoing research but I think from what I've read it's kinda a Jake by Jake thing whether they are reliable breeders.
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We raised turkeys on the farm, and some Jakes were mature enough, but others didn't pass the cut... We always we move our jakes to another pen and would a tom in with the hens.
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Yes but not a high percentage.
Yes, had a buddy that raised wild turkeys. He would always breed Jake's because he sold his gobblers. He raised alot of poults whose daddy's was Jake's.
I'm not sure that I can buy into a tamed jake or penned up jake being on the same level as one in the wild.
A mature Tom certainly thinks so!!! LOL
To clarify my post on this. Jakes become sexually viable around 11 months to 1 yr old. Jakes hatched late will not be viable until they reach this age.
For the most part no. That doesn't mean they won't attempt to .