Are the rings or groves that look like steps inside these chokes suposed to have nicks/dimples in them? Perhaps from impact with the shot colume?
Never seen that on my Indian creek
no possible way from that not happening in certain styles of wad catchers when the choke metal is softer than the shot fired thru it!!! :o
This a Swarm 20ga. I got on here.I have not shot it so have no idea what has been run through it. I may PM the person I got it from and ask. The nicks showed up after I cleaned it.
Can you put up a pic?
I can email you a pic. Havn't figured out how to upload a pic yet.
Email that and some please post it
Here is a pic.
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Should not happen. We have fired Steel shot and Heavy shot without any problems. Most of the chokes now days that are built are maid from 17-4 SS.
Quote from: Gobble! on February 13, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
Never seen that on my Indian creek
spray some brake clean down it,have another look. :icon_thumright:
Already did that.
It almost looks like it was stuck at one time and someone used a tool they shouldnt of used to get it out but would have to have it in hand to really tell. I wouldnt be worried about shooting it though see how it patterns then go from there.
Quote from: hawk on February 13, 2011, 02:59:27 PM
Are the rings or groves that look like steps inside these chokes suposed to have nicks/dimples in them? Perhaps from impact with the shot colume?
I can't really see your pictures very well but it's my experience that the more that choke is shot, the better it does.
Clark
Quote from: SumToy on February 13, 2011, 09:19:01 PM
Should not happen. We have fired Steel shot and Heavy shot without any problems. Most of the chokes now days that are built are maid from 17-4 SS.
You may want to check the hardness scale of 17-4 HT SS and Tungsten based shot.The wad is there to protected the brl. and choke from damage. Any choke with abrupt stops to separates the wad and shot before it leaves the muzzle is going to have scouring and dent damage from Tungsten based shot.
Picture looks like typical Hevi-Shot wear an tear to me!!
Wad catchers get beat to heck with HTL shot. Very normal and it does not hurt a thing. I talked with Scott about it a couple years ago when I started seeing it a good bit and he said his ICs for still shooting were beat up as well and they patterned just as good as they always had.
If your chokes with wad stoppers don't have the dings, you haven't run enough HTL through them for them to show yet.
Clean the choke and let 'er rip.
Reloader
I sent an IC with the dings on the concentric rings back to Mike Ponder last year for evaluation. Mike sent it back and said that they should have no impact on my patterns and that it was normal after repeated use w/HTL. I had already purchased another IC tube and evaluated the "new" and "old" tubes side by side. Shooting the same Hevi-13 loads, I got almost identical patterns and pellet counts with both IC tubes.
Mike is just a good ole boy.
All mine have dings in them, too.
Quote from: S.C.C on February 14, 2011, 08:32:08 AM
Quote from: SumToy on February 13, 2011, 09:19:01 PM
Should not happen. We have fired Steel shot and Heavy shot without any problems. Most of the chokes now days that are built are maid from 17-4 SS.
You may want to check the hardness scale of 17-4 HT SS and Tungsten based shot.The wad is there to protected the brl. and choke from damage. Any choke with abrupt stops to separates the wad and shot before it leaves the muzzle is going to have scouring and dent damage from Tungsten based shot.
Picture looks like typical Hevi-Shot wear an tear to me!!
We have test this for years. We are out of the target world so all this wad stopping that choke companies are doing now we did for years. Now if the choke has a good lay out it will not have the shot beating the stops that bad. I will stand up for a few companies and say they got a good set up. I have some that if you had a dime for ever lead and heavy shot that been out it you would not have to work for a month.
We have test this for years. We are out of the target world so all this wad stopping that choke companies are doing now we did for years. Now if the choke has a good lay out it will not have the shot beating the stops that bad. I will stand up for a few companies and say they got a good set up. I have some that if you had a dime for ever lead and heavy shot that been out it you would not have to work for a month.
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IN REALITY....Yes stepped chokes and brls have been used for years and were designed for lead shot.Any choke that has squared wad catch rings is designed to catch and peel the wad from the front.using this design with hevi-shot give you no way to keep the choke from damage.why use these in a hevi choke if you are just going to beat them out over time anyway?
IMO,the best designed hevi chokes pull the wad from the back/base and especially the chokes that do that right before it exits the choke!