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Had Rob Roberts Custom Gun Works doing some work on a shotgun of mine and got to talking to one of the gunsmiths about their chokes. Does anyone have any experience with their turkey chokes? If so, what are your thoughts? Do they hold up to makers like Indian Creek, Sumtoy, Comp-N-Choke, Kicks, etc.? Thanks for the help.

Yes sir. I have a Rob Roberts Final Strut .660 tube in my Super Black Eagle. It is non-ported and shoots the Original Federal Heavy Weight #6's unreal. It also shoots Winchester Longbeards really well. I highly recommend their chokes. You won't be disappointed. Rob does great work. Good luck....

I used to have a sbe3 and used a RR 660. I tested a lot of chokes and it and Sumtoy shot the best patterns with tss 9s and long beards


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Quote from: wchadw on December 14, 2020, 07:58:36 PM
I used to have a sbe3 and used a RR 660. I tested a lot of chokes and it and Sumtoy shot the best patterns with tss 9s and long beards


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X2, amen Chad. Be well....

Quote from: Tom007 on December 14, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Yes sir. I have a Rob Roberts Final Strut .660 tube in my Super Black Eagle. It is non-ported and shoots the Original Federal Heavy Weight #6's unreal. It also shoots Winchester Longbeards really well. I highly recommend their chokes. You won't be disappointed. Rob does great work. Good luck....

Thanks so much! I typically run Longbeard #5s out of a .665. Any suggestions on constriction for what I get from Rob? Was thinking .665 or .670


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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on December 14, 2020, 08:25:19 PM

Quote from: Tom007 on December 14, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Yes sir. I have a Rob Roberts Final Strut .660 tube in my Super Black Eagle. It is non-ported and shoots the Original Federal Heavy Weight #6's unreal. It also shoots Winchester Longbeards really well. I highly recommend their chokes. You won't be disappointed. Rob does great work. Good luck....

Thanks so much! I typically run Longbeard #5s out of a .665. Any suggestions on constriction for what I get from Rob? Was thinking .665 or .670


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I have the .660. It does real well with 3.5 inch LB 5's, both the 2 1/8 oz mag and the 2 oz loads...That's what the Super Black Eagle recommendation was. Good luck....

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Quote from: Tom007 on December 14, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Yes sir. I have a Rob Roberts Final Strut .660 tube in my Super Black Eagle. It is non-ported and shoots the Original Federal Heavy Weight #6's unreal. It also shoots Winchester Longbeards really well. I highly recommend their chokes. You won't be disappointed. Rob does great work. Good luck....

Thanks so much! I typically run Longbeard #5s out of a .665. Any suggestions on constriction for what I get from Rob? Was thinking .665 or .670


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I have the .660. It does real well with 3.5 inch LB 5's, both the 2 1/8 oz mag and the 2 oz loads...That's what the Super Black Eagle recommendation was. Good luck....

Chad had great results, see. above thread with the .660 and the longbeards. You can ask them their opinion letting them know what gun your using. That affects what constriction they will recommend due to varying bore diameters of each gun manufacturer.. good luck, hope this helps you...

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Quote from: Tom007 on December 14, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Yes sir. I have a Rob Roberts Final Strut .660 tube in my Super Black Eagle. It is non-ported and shoots the Original Federal Heavy Weight #6's unreal. It also shoots Winchester Longbeards really well. I highly recommend their chokes. You won't be disappointed. Rob does great work. Good luck....

Thanks so much! I typically run Longbeard #5s out of a .665. Any suggestions on constriction for what I get from Rob? Was thinking .665 or .670


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I have the .660. It does real well with 3.5 inch LB 5's, both the 2 1/8 oz mag and the 2 oz loads...That's what the Super Black Eagle recommendation was. Good luck....

Chad had great results, see. above thread with the .660 and the longbeards. You can ask them their opinion letting them know what gun your using. That affects what constriction they will recommend due to varying bore diameters of each gun manufacturer.. good luck, hope this helps you...

Thanks again. I wound up ordering a .660. Turns out they don't make a .665 for invector plus, but he told me he thought the .660 would work best for the loads I usually run.


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Fantastic, I think you will be happy. Good luck, post some pics. What kind of gun do you use?

Quote from: Tom007 on December 15, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
Fantastic, I think you will be happy. Good luck, post some pics. What kind of gun do you use?

Long story! So funny enough that's how the gun wound up there. I bought a new CZ 1012 to play around with last summer. I've enjoyed a CZ 920 I've got so thought I'd give their new inertia gun a try. Anyhow, historically they've tapped their 12ga shotguns for Mobil chokes so that's what I expected. Well this time around CZ decided to find some crap  choke company to make a proprietary choke system for the gun (i.e. no, AS IN ZERO, aftermarket chokes). So I sent it off to Rob Roberts in the hope that they could shorten the barrel substantially and retap for Mobil chokes as all my other guns and chokes are Benelli. Unfortunately he couldn't shorten it due to overboring and could only tap for invector plus chokes. In the end it gets me into a much better choke system and other than that I love everything about the gun so I think it's worth it. I know the choke I get from them will work well. I'll try to get some pattern pictures up once I pull it all together. Overall CZ has an action that could make a really fine gun down the road but they need to offer some alternate barrel lengths and they need to get back to a tried and true choke system, whatever that might be.


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I think you will like the RR chokes. Only reason I'm not running one now is they don't have one for the gun I'm using now. It shot excellent in the sbe3


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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on December 15, 2020, 06:44:38 PM

Quote from: Tom007 on December 15, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
Fantastic, I think you will be happy. Good luck, post some pics. What kind of gun do you use?

Long story! So funny enough that's how the gun wound up there. I bought a new CZ 1012 to play around with last summer. I've enjoyed a CZ 920 I've got so thought I'd give their new inertia gun a try. Anyhow, historically they've tapped their 12ga shotguns for Mobil chokes so that's what I expected. Well this time around CZ decided to find some crap  choke company to make a proprietary choke system for the gun (i.e. no, AS IN ZERO, aftermarket chokes). So I sent it off to Rob Roberts in the hope that they could shorten the barrel substantially and retap for Mobil chokes as all my other guns and chokes are Benelli. Unfortunately he couldn't shorten it due to overboring and could only tap for invector plus chokes. In the end it gets me into a much better choke system and other than that I love everything about the gun so I think it's worth it. I know the choke I get from them will work well. I'll try to get some pattern pictures up once I pull it all together. Overall CZ has an action that could make a really fine gun down the road but they need to offer some alternate barrel lengths and they need to get back to a tried and true choke system, whatever that might be.


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Awesome. Good luck with it, as Chad say's, and I agree 100% you will love it. Be safe, look forward to the pics....

I shoot a .655 rob roberts in my sbe2,I love it,I use to shoot mag blends through it until I patterened a bunch of different tss through it,with federal 7x9 it will put 430 in a ten inch circle at 40,and the 20 yard pattern was a good even awesome pattern too, not just a hole the size of a dip can like a lot of the stuff are doing now.....I'm going to be using it from now on,it was crazy just how good the patterns were looking with it...I would say you would like them.

Amen my friend....great combo

Don't know if RR has a guarantee on their chokes like IC, but if the .660 doesn't pattern to your liking I'd suggest backing off to a .670. Invector + is one of the most aggressive back bores on the market, I think second only to Mossberg's 835 which is a 10-gauge diameter. So it might do better with a wider constriction.

But, since you got it you might have found that it does amazingly as it is, rendering the question of whether it's the best constriction purely academic.


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Quote from: AppalachianHollers on December 16, 2020, 09:47:35 AM
Don't know if RR has a guarantee on their chokes like IC, but if the .660 doesn't pattern to your liking I'd suggest backing off to a .670. Invector + is one of the most aggressive back bores on the market, I think second only to Mossberg's 835 which is a 10-gauge diameter. So it might do better with a wider constriction.

But, since you got it you might have found that it does amazingly as it is, rendering the question of whether it's the best constriction purely academic.


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I think choke constriction is more of a personal preference. Some people like super tight chokes that will put max numbers at 40 ignoring patterns at 10 yards that are size of a baseball. The 660 will be very tight under 15-20 yards. If you like a more open pattern at close ranges 670 might be better. 670 at 40 will be more open but definitely will do the job. Especially shooting TSS loads out of a 12ga

Note that the SBE performance edition turkey from benelli has the RR 655

I have a pattern at 30-35 yards with 660 I'll see if I can find pic and post


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RR 660 out of. SBE3 at 30 yards with Nitro TSS 7x9 blend (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201216/d02554dc276c91c6baa0aa79361f7f07.jpg)


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Quote from: AppalachianHollers on December 16, 2020, 09:47:35 AM
Don't know if RR has a guarantee on their chokes like IC, but if the .660 doesn't pattern to your liking I'd suggest backing off to a .670. Invector + is one of the most aggressive back bores on the market, I think second only to Mossberg's 835 which is a 10-gauge diameter. So it might do better with a wider constriction.

But, since you got it you might have found that it does amazingly as it is, rendering the question of whether it's the best constriction purely academic.


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Seeing as the barrel is being re-tapped for invector plus I doubt that it's backbored to the degree you're thinking. Possible but I don't know. Regardless I was looking for a .665 or .670 and they don't off either in invector plus. They offer a .655, .660, or .675. So I described what load I like to run and what I'm looking to get out of it and he said he thought the .660 was my best bet. We'll just have to wait and see. If it's too tight I might see if they'll exchange and if not I'll probably try a Sumtoy .675.


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Quote from: wchadw on December 16, 2020, 10:56:03 AM
RR 660 out of. SBE3 at 30 yards with Nitro TSS 7x9 blend (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201216/d02554dc276c91c6baa0aa79361f7f07.jpg)


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Ain't much head left on that old boy is there?


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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on December 16, 2020, 11:31:37 AM

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RR 660 out of. SBE3 at 30 yards with Nitro TSS 7x9 blend (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201216/d02554dc276c91c6baa0aa79361f7f07.jpg)


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Ain't much head left on that old boy is there?


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Yes. 12ga tss loads will make a mess of a turkey head at under 30


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Wow, impressive Chad, great info thread guys, thank you...be safe. Chester best of luck with your new turkey slayer.....

The guys a RR will know the choke they build and how it works.   Alot coming into play with the choke as in what makes it work.   Chokes with no stops sometimes can get by with smaller sizes to help pull the wad.    Now in the Winchester/Browning plus guns they can blow the pattern if you over choke them.  Smaller choke will have a hotter core and short range.  The more open choke will have a higher 10 inch number alot of times at the longer ranges.    The new SX4 is a plus barrel but will take a little smaller choke.   One thing to think about is that with longer forcing cones you choke little smaller.   RR likes to lengthen the forcing cone on stuff.   

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The guys a RR will know the choke they build and how it works.   Alot coming into play with the choke as in what makes it work.   Chokes with no stops sometimes can get by with smaller sizes to help pull the wad.    Now in the Winchester/Browning plus guns they can blow the pattern if you over choke them.  Smaller choke will have a hotter core and short range.  The more open choke will have a higher 10 inch number alot of times at the longer ranges.    The new SX4 is a plus barrel but will take a little smaller choke.   One thing to think about is that with longer forcing cones you choke little smaller.   RR likes to lengthen the forcing cone on stuff.   

That's helpful to know. I didn't lengthen the forcing cone on this gun but after talking with them today I did learn the bore diameter is .742. I spoke with them again about what I shoot (Long Beard #5s, sometimes #6s) and at what distances I want the pattern to open and they still recommended the .660 so we're going to give that a shot. If it winds up being too tight, though, I'm coming for a Sumtoy .675. Currently running one of your .665s out of a Benelli and love it.


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Quote from: SumToy on December 16, 2020, 04:39:39 PM
The guys a RR will know the choke they build and how it works.   Alot coming into play with the choke as in what makes it work.   Chokes with no stops sometimes can get by with smaller sizes to help pull the wad.    Now in the Winchester/Browning plus guns they can blow the pattern if you over choke them.  Smaller choke will have a hotter core and short range.  The more open choke will have a higher 10 inch number alot of times at the longer ranges.    The new SX4 is a plus barrel but will take a little smaller choke.   One thing to think about is that with longer forcing cones you choke little smaller.   RR likes to lengthen the forcing cone on stuff.   

That's helpful to know. I didn't lengthen the forcing cone on this gun but after talking with them today I did learn the bore diameter is .742. I spoke with them again about what I shoot (Long Beard #5s, sometimes #6s) and at what distances I want the pattern to open and they still recommended the .660 so we're going to give that a shot. If it winds up being too tight, though, I'm coming for a Sumtoy .675. Currently running one of your .665s out of a Benelli and love it.


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Thanks for your business in the past.   Now The Benelli is 721 bore.   721- 665=.056 take down.     Browning plus guns .742-.660=.082 take down.      Now the new SX4 likes the 660 but we have not had a barrel in to look at.    So dont know why at this point but have a idea.   


RR should be able to fix you but if some reason if dont work out just let me know if I can help. 

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The guys a RR will know the choke they build and how it works.   Alot coming into play with the choke as in what makes it work.   Chokes with no stops sometimes can get by with smaller sizes to help pull the wad.    Now in the Winchester/Browning plus guns they can blow the pattern if you over choke them.  Smaller choke will have a hotter core and short range.  The more open choke will have a higher 10 inch number alot of times at the longer ranges.    The new SX4 is a plus barrel but will take a little smaller choke.   One thing to think about is that with longer forcing cones you choke little smaller.   RR likes to lengthen the forcing cone on stuff.   

That's helpful to know. I didn't lengthen the forcing cone on this gun but after talking with them today I did learn the bore diameter is .742. I spoke with them again about what I shoot (Long Beard #5s, sometimes #6s) and at what distances I want the pattern to open and they still recommended the .660 so we're going to give that a shot. If it winds up being too tight, though, I'm coming for a Sumtoy .675. Currently running one of your .665s out of a Benelli and love it.


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Thanks for your business in the past.   Now The Benelli is 721 bore.   721- 665=.056 take down.     Browning plus guns .742-.660=.082 take down.      Now the new SX4 likes the 660 but we have not had a barrel in to look at.    So dont know why at this point but have a idea.   


RR should be able to fix you but if some reason if dont work out just let me know if I can help.

Sumtoy makes excellent chokes and optic mounts. I run them in my 20 and 410. Plan on sending my Yildiz 28 for some chokes. I have tried a lot of chokes and Sumtoy and RR were the best in my opinion in the benelli. They Sumtoy patterned just as good as the RR in my sbe3 and I tested just about everything

You can't go wrong with either choke


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Quote from: SumToy on December 17, 2020, 09:19:08 AM

Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on December 16, 2020, 05:10:12 PM

Quote from: SumToy on December 16, 2020, 04:39:39 PM
The guys a RR will know the choke they build and how it works.   Alot coming into play with the choke as in what makes it work.   Chokes with no stops sometimes can get by with smaller sizes to help pull the wad.    Now in the Winchester/Browning plus guns they can blow the pattern if you over choke them.  Smaller choke will have a hotter core and short range.  The more open choke will have a higher 10 inch number alot of times at the longer ranges.    The new SX4 is a plus barrel but will take a little smaller choke.   One thing to think about is that with longer forcing cones you choke little smaller.   RR likes to lengthen the forcing cone on stuff.   

That's helpful to know. I didn't lengthen the forcing cone on this gun but after talking with them today I did learn the bore diameter is .742. I spoke with them again about what I shoot (Long Beard #5s, sometimes #6s) and at what distances I want the pattern to open and they still recommended the .660 so we're going to give that a shot. If it winds up being too tight, though, I'm coming for a Sumtoy .675. Currently running one of your .665s out of a Benelli and love it.


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Thanks for your business in the past.   Now The Benelli is 721 bore.   721- 665=.056 take down.     Browning plus guns .742-.660=.082 take down.      Now the new SX4 likes the 660 but we have not had a barrel in to look at.    So dont know why at this point but have a idea.   


RR should be able to fix you but if some reason if dont work out just let me know if I can help.

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Quote from: SumToy on December 16, 2020, 04:39:39 PM
The guys a RR will know the choke they build and how it works.   Alot coming into play with the choke as in what makes it work.   Chokes with no stops sometimes can get by with smaller sizes to help pull the wad.    Now in the Winchester/Browning plus guns they can blow the pattern if you over choke them.  Smaller choke will have a hotter core and short range.  The more open choke will have a higher 10 inch number alot of times at the longer ranges.    The new SX4 is a plus barrel but will take a little smaller choke.   One thing to think about is that with longer forcing cones you choke little smaller.   RR likes to lengthen the forcing cone on stuff.   

That's helpful to know. I didn't lengthen the forcing cone on this gun but after talking with them today I did learn the bore diameter is .742. I spoke with them again about what I shoot (Long Beard #5s, sometimes #6s) and at what distances I want the pattern to open and they still recommended the .660 so we're going to give that a shot. If it winds up being too tight, though, I'm coming for a Sumtoy .675. Currently running one of your .665s out of a Benelli and love it.


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Thanks for your business in the past.   Now The Benelli is 721 bore.   721- 665=.056 take down.     Browning plus guns .742-.660=.082 take down.      Now the new SX4 likes the 660 but we have not had a barrel in to look at.    So dont know why at this point but have a idea.   


RR should be able to fix you but if some reason if dont work out just let me know if I can help.

I have a SumToy choke I use in my Benelli. Shoots lights out with almost everything. It's nice to see our vendor comrades here help us out on these threads. They do it with class. Thanks Sum Toy

This is a pattern from my Yildiz 20 with Sumtoy 562. As you can see it throws an excellent pattern (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201217/da0e8a510ac7ae240dc17ff413061448.jpg)


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Amen, great pattern Chad.....wow

They might be as good but none better than 562 20ga Sumtoy!


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