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Title: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: cornfedkiller on March 25, 2012, 04:52:47 PM
Just as the title says..If I post a pic, can you tell me if its a pure or a hybrid?  The bird I shot last year looks like it has alot of merriam in it, but I shot it in east central nebraska, which isnt really known for merriams, so Im curious how I tell, or if anyone can help me out.
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 25, 2012, 04:59:06 PM
Post him up!  I know that area can get hybrids so...
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: cornfedkiller on March 25, 2012, 05:02:43 PM
(http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy356/jakeduehn/IMG_1597.jpg)

(http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy356/jakeduehn/IMG_1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: swamp_bird89 on March 25, 2012, 05:25:53 PM
Looks like every merriam I have killed. Nice bird
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 25, 2012, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: swamp_bird89 on March 25, 2012, 05:25:53 PM
Looks like every merriam I have killed. Nice bird

Yup.  Pure blood Merriam's fo sho.
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: cornfedkiller on March 25, 2012, 05:53:27 PM
Quote from: mightyjoeyoung on March 25, 2012, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: swamp_bird89 on March 25, 2012, 05:25:53 PM
Looks like every merriam I have killed. Nice bird

Yup.  Pure blood Merriam's fo sho.

Wow thats awesome!  I was really hoping it was a pure merriam, but considering where I killed it, I wasnt gonna hold my breath.

Thanks for the help guys!
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: Turkey Beard on March 25, 2012, 06:10:09 PM
For what it's worth, I'd say it's 100% Merriams as well.
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: handcannon on March 25, 2012, 07:33:19 PM
Looks like a merriam and I'd almost be able to bet you it taste like Merriam too.  :drool:
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 25, 2012, 07:56:31 PM
Tastes like chicken!!   :TooFunny: :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: swamp_bird89 on March 25, 2012, 08:23:57 PM
Quote from: handcannon on March 25, 2012, 07:33:19 PM
Looks like a merriam and I'd almost be able to bet you it taste like Merriam too.  :drool:

:z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: Wingbone on March 25, 2012, 11:53:55 PM
I don't know that this is comparing apples to apples, but I killed two Rios in Kansas that looked just like him. I thought I'd killed a Merriam's in Rio country but then a guy ask me if he had the irredecent coloring in the black bar of his fan. Mine didn't so he said it was a white phase Rio. Just an experience of mine, but it wasn't in an area with Merriam's or their hybrids anywhere close by.
Title: Re: Can you tell subspecies from a picture?
Post by: TRKYHTR on March 26, 2012, 12:05:35 AM
It looks like a Merriam to me. There is some difference in color besides the tail coverts and the tail. The tip of the tail color(white/buff) is usually larger in  a Merriam than a Rio. Almost twice the size. The breast feathers and side feathers of a Merriam look Black with green iridescence and a Rio looks copper color in good sunlight. Its hard to tell with this picture but it just looks like a Merriam to me. Does the NWTF acknowledge it as being a Merriam species in that area? Or is it thought of as being hybrids? Pretty bird either way.

TRKYHTR
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