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Title: Need help with 935
Post by: ARjtk on February 22, 2020, 03:47:39 PM
New 935 22" barrel- LBXR 3.5" #6s
I've shot the ultifull .695, tightwad .690, undertaker .695 and the Truglo SSX .670
All have shot weak patterns at 40 yards. 50-75 in 10".
That is the load I would like to shoot in this gun as it has worked extremely well in my remingtons and benellis.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: ARjtk on February 22, 2020, 03:54:16 PM
My point of aim is on. Installed Williams fire sights and dialed them in at 20. Patterns look good and 20 but not punching a hole like I'm accustom to with LBXR.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: Old Timer on February 22, 2020, 08:27:32 PM
Try a deep cleaning then a 3 inch load. My 835 does much better with the 3 inch. Please keep us posted. Good luck.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: Gentry on February 22, 2020, 08:50:30 PM
I had the same problem with a 935 but it was shooting a foot high!


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Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: TalksToTurkeys on February 25, 2020, 02:31:31 PM
My 24" 935 with a Trulock .670 LB choke puts 270 in the 10 at 40 yards with that load.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: ARjtk on February 26, 2020, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: TalksToTurkeys on February 25, 2020, 02:31:31 PM
My 24" 935 with a Trulock .670 LB choke puts 270 in the 10 at 40 yards with that load.

Thank you I just ordered one. Also ordered some different loads to try.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: bbcoach on February 26, 2020, 03:10:00 PM
That SSX .670 should be a Great choke in that 935 with the LB's.  The Mossy's love chokes in the .670 to .680 range.  A couple of things 1. How big of a piece of paper are you shooting at?  It should be at least 30" x 30"  2. Have you sighted the gun in with dove loads at about 15 yards to get POA/POI?  As you stated, you should be blowing a big hole in the paper at close range. 3. What does the barrel look like inside?  Have you cleaned and polished the barrel?  These things helped me with a 300 plus pattern with Hevi 7's pattern with my 835.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: ARjtk on February 27, 2020, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on February 26, 2020, 03:10:00 PM
That SSX .670 should be a Great choke in that 935 with the LB's.  The Mossy's love chokes in the .670 to .680 range.  A couple of things 1. How big of a piece of paper are you shooting at?  It should be at least 30" x 30"  2. Have you sighted the gun in with dove loads at about 15 yards to get POA/POI?  As you stated, you should be blowing a big hole in the paper at close range. 3. What does the barrel look like inside?  Have you cleaned and polished the barrel?  These things helped me with a 300 plus pattern with Hevi 7's pattern with my 835.

I was shooting at probably a 4ft piece of cardboard, replacing the paper every shot. I sighted the fire sights in at 20 yards (initially was shooting 10" high).

I have not cleaned and polished the barrel. I pulled it straight out of the box and took it to the range. Im hoping I do not have to deep clean the barrel to get a good hunting pattern. Is it that crucial or will that just help clean up flyers and possibly gain 10%? 
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: bbcoach on February 27, 2020, 06:55:24 PM
If it was me, I would check my POA/POI with dove loads at 12-15 yards.  2 reasons 1. you should get a BIG hole at that range which should verify or disprove your POI with the Firesights  2. It will give you a GOOD base for the 3 1/2's.  Not sure what your barrel looks like but my 835 had machining marks in it and the cleaning and polishing removed them.  I can't say how much the C and P helped because I did it before putting any rounds down range.  That SSX and 3 1/2 6 LB's should be putting up numbers around 180-200 at 40 though.  Clark Bush (allaboutshooting) has done a TON of experimenting with SSX choke and 3" LB's.  Contact him here at OG (allaboutshooting) and get his input.  Here's one of his Blog articles https://allaboutshooting.com/blogs/blog/98768775-patterning-the-935?_pos=1&_sid=43a5772c2&_ss=r  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: ARjtk on February 27, 2020, 09:37:29 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on February 27, 2020, 06:55:24 PM
If it was me, I would check my POA/POI with dove loads at 12-15 yards.  2 reasons 1. you should get a BIG hole at that range which should verify or disprove your POI with the Firesights  2. It will give you a GOOD base for the 3 1/2's.  Not sure what your barrel looks like but my 835 had machining marks in it and the cleaning and polishing removed them.  I can't say how much the C and P helped because I did it before putting any rounds down range.  That SSX and 3 1/2 6 LB's should be putting up numbers around 180-200 at 40 though.  Clark Bush (allaboutshooting) has done a TON of experimenting with SSX choke and 3" LB's.  Contact him here at OG (allaboutshooting) and get his input.  Here's one of his Blog articles https://allaboutshooting.com/blogs/blog/98768775-patterning-the-935?_pos=1&_sid=43a5772c2&_ss=r  Hope this helps.

Thank you. I appreciate all the info.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: jordanz7935 on February 27, 2020, 09:42:09 PM
Id have a gunsmith take a look at your barrel. Likely could be the choke threads aren't concentric to the bore(crooked). I 've been shooting a 935 for years and you should be getting at least 150 in the 10" @ 40 yards with any of your chokes and those Longbeard #6s. Mossberg has great C.S. and will take care of you if need be.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: mightyjoeyoung on March 13, 2020, 10:27:50 AM
Well, since nobody is going to mention the GLARINGLY OBVIOUS.  Are the loads you're shooting NEW?  New lots or older, original stock?  There have been a number of hunters reporting issues with the new lot LBs throwing horrible patterns.  Most are thinking the buffer resin is the issue...
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: ARjtk on March 18, 2020, 05:29:38 PM
They are new. I haven't heard that.  Never could get them to pattern well. I gave up on them. TSS 9s did well.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: rakkin6 on March 18, 2020, 10:55:15 PM
I patterned my 835 yesterday and was shooting Winchester Longbeards 3" #5 and 6 1 7/8 ounce loads. The #6 were shooting really good for me out to 30 yards but after that for some reason started falling apart after that. I liked them because they were a little more open at closer range then the #5. But I went with the #5 because they were really good at 40 and 45 yards. Luckily I have a red dot scope in case of anything inside 25 yards or so.
Title: Re: Need help with 935
Post by: rakkin6 on March 18, 2020, 11:00:45 PM
First pic is at 45 yards second is at 20. I did deep clean my gun first also. I would recommend you try it. It does help a lot, I have never polished mine but deep clean them every year before the season. After I pattern my guns I run boresnake with hopped #9 through it. I am not sure why the #6 just fell apart after 30 yards and both types of ammo were brand new boxes. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200319/656c3adc45ca17bd8b6888b2baf152a8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200319/562d394d8db6afefc772d89e54b32b9f.jpg)

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