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Poll
Question: Do you guys stop killing after you reach your limit?
Option 1: Yes votes: 99
Option 2: No.... "Just Yanking Your Chain" votes: 9
Title: Serious limit?
Post by: rawalley on March 17, 2012, 02:26:24 PM
I see post where guys have already killed two birds with only three days into the ms season.  I think real turkey hunters stop when they are supposed to.  The limit might suck but its there for a reason.  Please respect the bird we love to hunt so much.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: sugarray on March 17, 2012, 02:41:57 PM
Quote from: rawalley on March 17, 2012, 02:26:24 PM
I see post where guys have already killed two birds with only three days into the ms season.  I think real turkey hunters stop when they are supposed to.  The limit might suck but its there for a reason.  Please respect the bird we love to hunt so much.

Don't understand where you think we are massacring turkeys.   ??? ???
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: VaTuRkStOmPeR on March 17, 2012, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: rawalley on March 17, 2012, 02:26:24 PM
I see post where guys have already killed two birds with only three days into the ms season.  I think real turkey hunters stop when they are supposed to.  The limit might suck but its there for a reason.  Please respect the bird we love to hunt so much.

The limit in Mississippi is 3; by my math, those individuals, some of whom I call friends, still have one more to go.

Then they take their children, their
Father in-laws, and their friends.

Real turkey hunters kill turkeys and do it with stunning proficiency.  I'm not sure how youre so presumptuous to conclude that people who kill limits swiftly don't respect the wild turkey.

Your logic is flawed.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Turkeykiller12 on March 17, 2012, 02:59:57 PM
This thread needs to be waded up and threw in the trash can. Makes no sense!
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: redarrow on March 17, 2012, 03:14:58 PM
Do you have any idea what the "LEGAL" limits are ? As for the one no vote I hope you get busted and put under the jail.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: TRKYHTR on March 17, 2012, 03:22:50 PM
In CA we are on the honor system. Which means we don't have tags for our turkeys. It would be very easy to keep killing turkeys and I know a few hunters that do. I knew 2 guys who killed 19 Jakes between them in one spring, at least thats what they said and I wouldn't doubt them. I don't have much to do with them and they know not to be telling me things like that because I have a few friends that are game wardens. I am supposed to be an example for my kids, my friends and to God. That is not being a good example. When I kill my 3 gobblers then I'll just keep looking for people to take. I always have people wanting me to take them turkey hunting.

TRKYHTR
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: mikejd on March 17, 2012, 03:30:30 PM
This is a stupid post. But Ill answer anyway. If I new 2 guys that shot 15 jakes I would walk the warden to there front door and point my finger in there face. second thats the good thing about turkey hunting once you get your limit you still can go out and call for someone that has not had as much luck as you. This post is good for one thing. We can see the people that we would rather not associate with.

mike
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: runngun on March 17, 2012, 03:31:16 PM
Upon reaching the legal limit then I take other folks, kids and kinfolk. But then I go to other states as well. There are limits for a reason. The OP appears to be a little judgemental/presumptive. Possibly a little on the jealous side?

Good Luck and God Bless
           Ray
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: HOOKS1 on March 17, 2012, 03:54:09 PM
When I tag out in my home state I call for a few friends. Then I head out to hunt several other states.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: tomanyturkeycalls on March 17, 2012, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: Canyonhunter on March 17, 2012, 02:59:57 PM
This thread needs to be waded up and threw in the trash can. Makes no sense!
:z-winnersmiley:
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: catdaddy on March 17, 2012, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: rawalley on March 17, 2012, 02:26:24 PM
I see post where guys have already killed two birds with only three days into the ms season.  I think real turkey hunters stop when they are supposed to.  The limit might suck but its there for a reason.  Please respect the bird we love to hunt so much.

It's obvious you are evious of those guys you referenced that can kill two birds so quickly--
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: turkey_slayer on March 17, 2012, 06:48:58 PM
Theres several on here than kill there limit quickly then take others so they can stay in the game.  Im one of em.  In fact I never use my last tag till the last week if I even get to then but its not a numbers game to me.  Were allowed 3.  As soon as I kill 2 I start taking friends, family, and coworkers that are always pestering me.  I get to get my fix this way and as a bonus I get to see other turkey hunters with a smile on there face. I could honestly take almost a new person everyday of our 31 day season if I took everyone that asked to go. I dont trust that many people tho  ;D
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: tomanyturkeycalls on March 17, 2012, 06:55:46 PM
I wish I could shoot my limit in a couple of days... heck sometimes I go without.... I see nothing wrong at all going and taking other people... I just mean I wouldn't personally shoot myself a over limit... I can't get enough of hunting and taking other people or just calling up some birds with another hunter is more than half the fun...
Title: Re: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Fireengine70 on March 17, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
Half the time I don't shoot my limit because I end up calling birds in for other people.(kids, friends, etc). I get more satisfaction from doing that. With that being said, this thread needs to go in the trash.

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Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: eodusmc on March 17, 2012, 08:56:30 PM
then i go out and help my buds get theirs. he dont call that good so i just call for him.

by the way just found this site and like it alot. :you_rock:
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: rawalley on March 17, 2012, 09:11:39 PM
I fully realize what the limit is tho I can see how my op could be misleading.  Yes I suppose you could say im a little jelous because said hunters are obviously doing an awesome job.  My intention with the op was to get an idea how many guys take the limit seriously because I know quite a few fellas here in MS that exceed that limit multiple times over and it makes me sick.  I suppose i should have made the poll without the comment.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 20, 2012, 08:09:42 PM
not everybody is the honest,law abidding  hunter
I personally know of 2 men last season claims to have taken 23 birds between them
I don't know if they killed 23 birds or not,but the day that I saw them and reported them,they had 5 in the back of the truck,nothing was ever done about the report either >:(
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Preacher on March 20, 2012, 08:37:58 PM
I have killed 2 this year already and if I get a Chance in the morning I will kill another ,  I will crawl, sneak, use decoys , and other legal methods , but I WILL STOP AT 3. in Mississippi.    I have not always but for the last 20 or so years I have,   Now I will continue to go with and take folks especially youngens.  and when we kill one we will dress it and eat it.     I ain't ashamed.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: joshb311 on March 20, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Quote from: redarrow on March 17, 2012, 03:14:58 PM
Do you have any idea what the "LEGAL" limits are ? As for the one no vote I hope you get busted and put under the jail.

Amen to that brother! Someone that kills over their limit is a thief in my opinion. They are stealing from their fellow hunters as well as the environment.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: socalturkeyman on March 20, 2012, 09:27:01 PM
weak topic! I dont even get a chance to come close to getting a limit on turkeys since I spend so much time on public land trying to help people get their first birds! Dont hate the people that bust birds every year and focus more on becoming that guy that does.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: rawalley on March 20, 2012, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: socalturkeyman on March 20, 2012, 09:27:01 PM
weak topic! I dont even get a chance to come close to getting a limit on turkeys since I spend so much time on public land trying to help people get their first birds! Dont hate the people that bust birds every year and focus more on becoming that guy that does.
maybe read the previous post before commenting.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: swamp_bird89 on March 20, 2012, 09:58:32 PM
I don't stop, half the people on my place struggle to kill one.... :toothy12:
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: GeorgeJR on March 20, 2012, 11:33:19 PM
A older guy that I know old school 12 gauge Prob still using a fixed Modified choke with lead.  Limit is 1 bird here in WI unless extra tags are left (he had 1 take) One shot and drops 3 birds (poor / lack of pattering his gun IMO).  He ended up keeping two and leaving one as it was very small.  This was fall hunting, and I know the flocks can be fairly large, but one part of me says he should be using a tighter choke and pick out the shot better, while another part of me knows sometimes you do your best and still end up harvesting more then you should (Two bucks with 1 bullet second buck behind the first as an example).  Good thing is we can report what happened and the food can be taken by the DNR and they often give it to food pantries and makes a mistake into a blessing. 

I also used to drive for Fed Ex while in College and drive into some very remote locations.  I would see a deer hanging up which I knew was their only means to feed themselves and was harvested out of season w/o tags/permits.  I also knew they did odd jobs just to keep a roof over their heads and ammo to get food.  I would never contact the DNR on them and hope if they were ever caught the law would turn a cheek and understand survival means you do what you have to do.  Stealing bread from a store to put some food on the table... I don't know of any church (well possibly that one in Kansas that protests Military Funerals) that would not help put food on ones table, but if I was a store owner and understood the reason they tried to steal I would take them back into the store and donate some meat, milk, bread, and fruit and let them know to stop by on X day when we have items about to expire so we can help you out more.  This country wastes more food then many countries people could dream of every having. 

Clean your plates kids and don't waste the food you were provided... Someone tonight are going without food for another day.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: jrseale82 on March 20, 2012, 11:37:52 PM
I have never been lucky enough to kill my limit in one season.  Maybe this year...
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: GeorgeJR on March 20, 2012, 11:43:04 PM
I should point out to the guy noting nothing was done either after reporting....

In Southern WI IL residents that owned land in WI for hunting they would hunt w/o tags and harvest excessive deer for years.  Ended they got a tip on the location and took a flock of DNR but caught the entire group red handed with deer hanging I think it was this past year.  When others reported the DNR never had enough information to charge them and didn't have the location of the property.  Once that tip came they knew the land was isolated and would require extensive manpower to bust... So they decided it was time and bust they did.  

They have caught guys with over bag limits due to police traffic stops as another means to find those not following the laws.  

At the end of the day when their luck runs out the fines are steep and word travels.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Sherrell on March 21, 2012, 07:34:37 AM
Quote from: redarrow on March 17, 2012, 03:14:58 PM
Do you have any idea what the "LEGAL" limits are ? As for the one no vote I hope you get busted and put under the jail.


Couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Dray223 on March 21, 2012, 07:36:49 AM
There is no reason for anyone to have to hunt to survive anymore, not in this day in time.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: bird on March 21, 2012, 08:10:56 AM
Guys don't get shook by the votes in the poll from people who say they won't stop.  100-1 odds these people vote this way just to see if they can get a rise out of someone.  These Polls are informal and subject to many short comings because of the lack of accountability. Personally I don't think much of the poll or the question.  Who in their right mind would openly on an social internet forum admit to poaching (which is what shooting over your limit is)?
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Dray223 on March 21, 2012, 09:50:06 AM
Just because they vote no doesnt mean they are addmitting to anything. They could be going to other states, hunting somewhere that allows bonus birds. Theres alot of open ends here.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: mnturkey on March 21, 2012, 10:00:48 AM
Intresting post,
I have never harvested over my limit in any game animal but I have taked a few hen phesants that my dog found still alive but wounded, I could not leave the birds to rot.  I put them in my game bag and told my self that if the Game Warden comes by I would immediately own up to what happened and if he fines me I would pay the fine.
I cannot see leaving any game animal to rot.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Nick_The_Tinkerer on March 21, 2012, 10:03:05 AM
What amazes me is that there are 9 people that do not stop killing when they reach their legal limit...
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: rawalley on March 21, 2012, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: mnturkey on March 21, 2012, 10:00:48 AM
Intresting post,
I have never harvested over my limit in any game animal but I have taked a few hen phesants that my dog found still alive but wounded, I could not leave the birds to rot.  I put them in my game bag and told my self that if the Game Warden comes by I would immediately own up to what happened and if he fines me I would pay the fine.
I cannot see leaving any game animal to rot.
Same thing happened to me in duck season.  If I kill the cripple im over my limit but I cant just leave it to suffer so I "break the law"
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: HunterMan on March 21, 2012, 10:10:46 AM
Stop shooting, but keep going.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: rawalley on March 21, 2012, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: HunterMan on March 21, 2012, 10:10:46 AM
Stop shooting, but keep going.
Well said :agreed:
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: stinkpickle on March 21, 2012, 10:27:33 AM
When I reach my limit, I kill a bottle of whiskey.  Does that count?
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: lightsoutcalls on March 21, 2012, 10:30:46 AM
   I hunted in OK a couple of years ago in an area that you could take 2 birds.  In that area, you don't check the birds.  That amazed me, as I had never heard of such.  In the state you could take 3 birds.  I ended up hunting in another part of the state that did require you to check your birds.  I got set up under a tree with my DSD decoys setup at 20 yards out.  I ended up dozing off and raising my head to see 3 gobblers strutting around my decoys.  I took the one with the longest beard.  I sat and called to the other 2 birds, who stayed within 40 yards for about 30 minutes or better.  One of those birds had feather tips almost as white as a merriams.  I so wished I had noticed that before I shot the one I did. I was hunting by myself.  I still physically had tags left since I didn't have to check the 2 birds from another county...  Man, it was a tough dilemma I must admit.  Nobody else had to know...  I got a couple of pictures of the white tipped bird and called them back from 70 yards to 30 yards numerous times until it started to rain.  It feels good to know that when the opportunity presented, I made the right choice.  
  I would much rather share that story than have to live with taking a bird I would love to have had mounted, but not be able to tell anyone about it with good conscience.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on March 21, 2012, 10:42:00 AM
I have never had the opportunity to kill more than my limit of 5 here in Bama. Maybe I am just not as good of a hunter as others or something, but I generally do good to kill 3 or 4!

Now I have killed two at a time three times - you are permitted to kill one a day here. The first two times, I shot the bird I was on and killed two - could I have helped it, maybe. I bought a tighter turkey choke and haven't done it since. The last time - I just got carried away. Two flew down to me and I shot one. He flopped and the other one just stood there. I rolled him up too.

Got home and felt bad about it, talked to the warden I know about it and left the rest of my 3 tags unfilled that year. I have not and will not do that again. The number in the freezer is not what it is all about to me. I just enjoy hunting the GREAT WILD TURKEY!!!
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: TennLongspur on March 21, 2012, 10:57:27 AM
I agree with those previous posts that this thread is absurd. but those willing to admit killing more than the legal limit at least let us know what kind of hunters and sportsmen they are.

The question itself seemed so rediculous because I would never dream of killing more than my limit. The thought would never enter my mind. The limit in Tennessee is four. If I am blessed enough to harvest that many birds this year, I will take my son or take someone who hasn't had as much luck, or take a camera.

What gives someone the right to think they can ... this question is getting my blood pressure up.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: 870FaceLift on March 21, 2012, 10:59:19 AM
Quote from: stinkpickle on March 21, 2012, 10:27:33 AM
When I reach my limit, I kill a bottle of whiskey.  Does that count?

Ya Buddy!  What he said!
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: lightsoutcalls on March 21, 2012, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: TennLongspur on March 21, 2012, 10:57:27 AM
I agree with those previous posts that this thread is absurd. but those willing to admit killing more than the legal limit at least let us know what kind of hunters and sportsmen they are.

The question itself seemed so rediculous because I would never dream of killing more than my limit. The thought would never enter my mind. The limit in Tennessee is four. If I am blessed enough to harvest that many birds this year, I will take my son or take someone who hasn't had as much luck, or take a camera.

What gives someone the right to think they can ... this question is getting my blood pressure up.

  You truly are blessed if you can take 4 gobblers in your state in a given season.  In the last 4 seasons of turkey hunting in AR, I have seen 1 gobbler, which I called in for my hunting buddy.  Public land here has more hunters than turkeys and some of us are not so fortunate as to have access to private land to hunt. 
  Be thankful for what you have.  God has blessed me with some incredible opportunities to hunt with folks out of state on their private land or land they have access to.  If it weren't for that, I would still be "birdless", as I have yet to take a bird in my home state.  I am grateful for the opportunites I have had to be put in the moral dilemma of "to shoot or not to shoot". 
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Sherrell on March 21, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
Some years in Florida I will pass a few birds up just to extend my season since we only have a 2 bird limit.my Son got on my case last year for passing up a good bird.

Since he limited out the first weekend and can't carry a gun in the state of Florida the rest of the Spring,he now knows the old man isn't so crazy after all.he'll just have to be the caller.

Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: joshb311 on March 22, 2012, 08:27:59 AM
It's comforting to know that there are still some ethical people out there! Glad not everyone is just looking to slaughter their quarries and show some restraint.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Gobblers_nightmare on March 25, 2012, 11:09:03 PM
There's plenty of opportunity for continuing the hunt after filling your tags.  There always kids, newbies, and friends that need help.  You can guide, call, and film for them.  Bring the first bird in for somebody and it's as exciting as bagging your own.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Neill_Prater on March 26, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
I think some of you guys are being a bit naive. We don't live in a perfect world. There are lots of guys that shoot over their limit, whether it be ducks, turkeys, or deer. I hope the majority on this board would not do so, but don't kid yourselves, it happens more than you care to know, especially in the South, with no accountability in the form of tags or check-in procedures, and extremely long seasons.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: whiskey on March 26, 2012, 08:01:27 AM
I live in northern middle Tennessee. I get 3 birds in Tennessee. I also hunt in Kentucky, I could take 2 birds in KY. I live close to Fort Campbell, which is separate for bag limits and I could take 4 on Fort Campbell. I am in Alabama this week and the limit is 5. So legally I could take 14 birds if I am lucky. But the truth is, I doubt I get the opportunity to take 3 birds all spring. I usually hunt with someone else. I am just as happy to have my partner shoot as I am for me to shoot.



Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: GobbleNut on March 26, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
I have mixed feelings about this poll.  When I voted, I fully expected there to be a zero in the "keep hunting" column,...or as I would call it the "Yes, I admit that I am a poacher" column.  I am amazed that anybody here would admit to that, even if it were true.

I am hoping that the 10% that admit to being poachers are just screwing with us to see how we react.  For those that are serious, if any, you can take these words to heart.  You are an embarassment to the members of this forum, and to true hunters across America, in general. 

Eventually, you will be "outed", and when you are, you will be looked upon with the disdain and disgust that you deserve.  Being a hunter is more than about killing.  It is about having ethics, integrity, and respect for other hunters and the wildlife we hunt.  You are no better than a common, petty thief and there is no glory or respect to be found in that.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Rio Fan on March 26, 2012, 10:43:41 AM
Well said, GobbleNut.  I agree with you 100%!
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: redarrow on March 26, 2012, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: Rio Fan on March 26, 2012, 10:43:41 AM
Well said, GobbleNut.  I agree with you 100%!

Oh yeah ! Very well put.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: jakebird on March 26, 2012, 11:33:32 AM
Ethics is who you are and what you do when no one is watching.  ;)
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: Jbird22 on March 26, 2012, 11:42:36 AM
IF I'm blessed with 3 birds here in MS I will quit. If EVERYONE would do that we'd have plenty of birds to hunt every year. There's no need to be greedy but a LOT of people are afflicted with it.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: joshb311 on March 27, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: Dray223 on March 21, 2012, 07:36:49 AM
There is no reason for anyone to have to hunt to survive anymore, not in this day in time.

If it were a situation other than necessity, I would agree. I personally know of three families that would be borderline to starving if it weren't for their ability to hunt and fish. There are some people out there that are still too proud to live off the government and handouts. I applaud them for their resolve. Not many people in this world remain that still have genuine character and pride. To say that there is no reason for anyone to have to hunt to survive only shows how oblivious people are to the real poverty that is still present in this country.
Title: Re: Serious limit?
Post by: jakebird on March 27, 2012, 12:22:24 PM
Especially in the rural appalachians and deep south. Its the poverty no one ever talks about and the ones no bleeding heart city slicker congressman is rushing to help. Not meanin to hijack a thread, just callin it like i see it.