Getting 330 to 350 with 2.25 oz. #7s. What is considered excellent in 10" @40yd with the 2.25 oz. 6s?
250 is excellent
most are 200-230
i agree in a proven gun/choke combo 225 is average with the 6's, anything above 240's is stellar in my opinion
I would have to say 200 to 220 is excellent. And 230 to 240 or more is tremendous. I don't think you will see too many 240 patterns myself with 6's.
What gun/choke combo are you shooting?
Here's a 240 plus pattern I shot last week. That's the only shot I fired through that Mad Max .680 choke that I just bought recently off gunbroker. I paid under $29 for it. That's been the best 6 shooter I have found. :z-guntootsmiley:
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I have shot a lot of #6 H13, 3 and 3.5, thru a lot of chokes and the best I have seen in my gun is 194 in 10@40. 870SM 23". PG670 did the best. It seems the higher numbers with #6 comes from mossbergs, just my observation. IMO 175-200 is pretty darn good.
My Pure Gold .670 hated the 6's in my 835. I didn't even bother counting the pattern. Now the 7's were awesome!
175-210 is good and will give you a 50yd thumper. 220s are great. Anything 225+ with factory #6s is awesome.
Quote from: dpittman on April 21, 2011, 10:44:50 AM
I have shot a lot of #6 H13, 3 and 3.5, thru a lot of chokes and the best I have seen in my gun is 194 in 10@40. 870SM 23". PG670 did the best. It seems the higher numbers with #6 comes from mossbergs, just my observation. IMO 175-200 is pretty darn good.
Yep. I shoot the 6's from an 11-87 3.5 with JH .665 and getting those types of numbers. I kind of like this as my 20" circle is in the 350 pellet range. Little wiggle room up close. I try to draw my 10" circle before I shoot. If I drew it at the best point I may gain 10-20 pellets.
Quote from: jfair on April 21, 2011, 10:59:53 AM
Quote from: dpittman on April 21, 2011, 10:44:50 AM
I have shot a lot of #6 H13, 3 and 3.5, thru a lot of chokes and the best I have seen in my gun is 194 in 10@40. 870SM 23". PG670 did the best. It seems the higher numbers with #6 comes from mossbergs, just my observation. IMO 175-200 is pretty darn good.
Yep. I shoot the 6's from an 11-87 3.5 with JH .665 and getting those types of numbers. I kind of like this as my 20" circle is in the 350 pellet range. Little wiggle room up close. I try to draw my 10" circle before I shoot. If I drew it at the best point I may gain 10-20 pellets.
Drawing your circle afterwards tells the true potetial of your gun. That's what a dot sight or scope is far. You can always readjust to center your pattern later on. Every load will shoot a little different out of different chokes. Your way would be nothing but a lot of wasted shells drawing the circle first if you only counted what you put in your cirlce.
That load above out of the MAD Max was about 2 clicks low is all from my scope. The Star Dot was shooting about deadnut with the 7's on that same scope setting.
Well I did move the scope 2 to the right and one click up after shooting this one. But each choke can shoot different as well as each load is my point.
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I draw after the shot so my counts are real then I adjust sights if needed. I shoot a scope on mine and I find since my POA is exactly the same shot to shot that I do not have alot af impact change when changing chokes and loads. When shooting sights and beads at 40 yards with tight shooting loads it is hard for shot to shot POA consistency and may be why people see there pattern cores "float around".
Well keep playing and trying different chokes and you will get my drift. Every choke can shoot a little more up, down, left, right or a combination of these.
Quote from: dpittman on April 21, 2011, 11:17:40 AM
I draw after the shot so my counts are real then I adjust sights if needed. I shoot a scope on mine and I find since my POA is exactly the same shot to shot that I do not have alot af impact change when changing chokes and loads. When shooting sights and beads at 40 yards with tight shooting loads it is hard for shot to shot POA consistency and may be why people see there pattern cores "float around".
I shoot a scope also and have it adjusted for the 6's through my gun. What I meant is, even then the extra 10-20 pellets could be obtained up, down, left or right. I just like to know what is in the center where I will be aiming when hunting.
I see your point, but I hope you see mine when your testing your gun for a choke or load beforehand.
I also shim my barrel to my reciever to further enhance shot to shot consistency. If it wowks for slugs why not tight shooting turkey loads. With a PG670 and H13 6 or 7 my POI is exactly the same every time and the center of the pattern is very easy to see.
Quote from: ILIKEHEVI-13 on April 21, 2011, 11:31:22 AM
I see your point, but I hope you see mine when your testing your gun for a choke or load beforehand.
Yes, these are two different times in shooting. Once sighted in I will shoot at least 180 with 6's. Could get 200 maybe more once in a while. I count on 180 at 40 to kill for me. When I said I could move the circle, it would only be an inch one way or the other. I don't think at 40 yards you can count on the max count being dead center everytime, even with a scope.
I have a stoeger M2000 that with an SSX and a 3" 2 oz H-13 #6 will do 196 in 10" at 40. That was the best load I shot out of it. I have several boxes of 3" 6's and 7's but have never even tried a 7 in it since the 6's shot so well.
Quote from: Reloader on April 21, 2011, 10:59:06 AM
175-210 is good and will give you a 50yd thumper. 220s are great. Anything 225+ with factory #6s is awesome.
Eggzactly ;D
200 and knowing your POI, and you have yourself a 0-50 yard set-up...
mudhen
With the 3" 2 ounce Hevi13 #6 shell, I'd say 180 and up is good.
I consistently get 155 to 159 with the current 1.75 ounce "bronze" shells.