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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Lead Shooters Section => Topic started by: GOLD HUNTER on March 03, 2013, 05:40:57 PM

Title: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX : looking at the shells
Post by: GOLD HUNTER on March 03, 2013, 05:40:57 PM
guys i had a bud get some of this ammo and he came over 2nite and we cut the tops off and......

TURKEY THUGS : 3" :  powder 49.2 : buffer 17.0 : 1 7/8 #6's lead shot 1.894.oz : fps 1210

THE BLUE BOX : 3"  : powder 36.5 : buffer (very little) : 1 7/8 #6's lead shot 1.880 : fps 1210

both had same wad cup but the blue box shells had a higher Gas Seal , hull and primers same.

powder looked the same. we will shoot them in a few weeks.  :smiley-char092:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh97/STRIKER1300/001-10_zpsb4bb6981.jpg)
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: packmule on March 03, 2013, 05:47:12 PM
That's good information. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: Michigander on March 03, 2013, 06:00:34 PM
Is Wal-mart the only place people are finding the Turkey Thugs?
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on March 03, 2013, 06:01:54 PM
Some Wal-Marts still don't have many Turkey loads in yet. 

The ammo crunch is still in effect.
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: GOLD HUNTER on March 03, 2013, 06:10:26 PM
wal-mart is the only one that has it in roanoke va.
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: bushwhacker on March 03, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
I think Walmart is the only place that will have the turkey thug ammo as they are one of the main sponsors of the show.
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 03, 2013, 11:26:39 PM
they are the only ones around here that have them
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: ericjames on March 04, 2013, 12:32:24 AM
I shot the turkey thug 3.5-2-5 today it did pretty good..I got 129 in the 10@ a laser 41 yards to the gobbler lounger I was in . I should get a little better numbers when it warms up it was  44° so I am not complaining at all. shot out of a
24" 835 with a .670 puregold
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: Michigander on March 04, 2013, 04:56:49 PM
Very nice, I may have to try to get ahold of some of these.
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX
Post by: surehuntsalot on March 04, 2013, 08:39:26 PM
wife picked me up a couple of boxes of the 3" 1-7/8oz #5's today
gonna try them out this weekend
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX : looking at the shells
Post by: GOLD HUNTER on March 13, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
The thugs kicks HARD !!!  :fud:
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX : looking at the shells
Post by: BandedSpur on March 14, 2013, 07:41:41 AM
Quote from: GOLD HUNTER on March 03, 2013, 05:40:57 PM
guys i had a bud get some of this ammo and he came over 2nite and we cut the tops off and......

TURKEY THUGS : 3" :  powder 49.2 : buffer 17.0 : 1 7/8 #6's lead shot 1.894.oz : fps 1210

THE BLUE BOX : 3"  : powder 36.5 : buffer (very little) : 1 7/8 #6's lead shot 1.880 : fps 1210

both had same wad cup but the blue box shells had a higher Gas Seal , hull and primers same.

powder looked the same. we will shoot them in a few weeks.  :smiley-char092:

Powder may have looked the same, but it most definitely is not. To get similar velocities with that much more powder in the Thugs vs the blue box, means the powder in the Thugs is a much slower burning powder. That can have a huge amount to do with how a particular shell patterns and also influences recoil. All else being the same, the Thug is going to recoil more than the blue box due to the higher volume of powder.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh97/STRIKER1300/001-10_zpsb4bb6981.jpg)
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX : looking at the shells
Post by: Longshot on March 14, 2013, 08:17:01 AM
And they do, indeed, recoil something fierce. I touched off five of the 3.5" 2 6's yesterday afternoon. The paper looked very nice. My shoulder on the other hand......not so much! God bless those that decide to shoot that round out of a pump gun. It was bad enough out of an inertia gun.
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX : looking at the shells
Post by: mr perfect on March 14, 2013, 08:52:44 PM
i shot two from the blue box today and three from the green or thugs 3.0 inch 1.875 oz i did not fell any difference . i beleive there is a little differance they both patterened about the same
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX : looking at the shells
Post by: Ihuntoldschool on May 03, 2015, 03:30:09 PM
Same shells, Federal just marketed the "Turkey Thugs" for specific retailers, Wal-Mart in particular.  This is per Federal; based on patterns I believe this to be true.
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX : looking at the shells
Post by: lowoctane on May 07, 2015, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: GOLD HUNTER on March 03, 2013, 05:40:57 PM
guys i had a bud get some of this ammo and he came over 2nite and we cut the tops off and......

TURKEY THUGS : 3" :  powder 49.2 : buffer 17.0 : 1 7/8 #6's lead shot 1.894.oz : fps 1210

THE BLUE BOX : 3"  : powder 36.5 : buffer (very little) : 1 7/8 #6's lead shot 1.880 : fps 1210

both had same wad cup but the blue box shells had a higher Gas Seal , hull and primers same.

powder looked the same. we will shoot them in a few weeks.  :smiley-char092:
How'd they compare?  :blob10:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh97/STRIKER1300/001-10_zpsb4bb6981.jpg)
Title: Re: TURKEY THUGS -vs- THE BLUE BOX : looking at the shells
Post by: GOLD HUNTER on May 07, 2015, 02:40:20 PM
with my 1187 and code black choke the turkey thugs shot better @ 35-40yds in a 10''..... but that's with my set up.

thanks
Brian