Earlier this year before season I got to reading about how under rated scratch boxes were and having never held one I thought maybe I was missing out so I picked up one from SS a few days before my season. Well as it went I fell in love with that style of call and now have 4 of those sweet little calls and used them to call in 6 birds this past spring.
Now I'm wondering if I'm missing out on never giving trupmets a try? So what does a trumpet bring that i'm not getting from other calls? Any decent places to get a start on picking up a good one that wont break the bank and trying my hand at them?
Thanks guys
A trumpet or wing bone has a sound unlike any other call it sounds the same but its not if you record all calls and play the sound on an oscilloscope it will be as close to a real turkey sound as you can get. They are not easy to learn to play but it you do its the only call you need.
If you are going to try to learn a trumpet then I highly suggest spending the money on a good one. They are easier to play and if it is not for you the resale value can be what you paid for it.
I would suggest MKW (would have to find a used one), Billy Buice, Matt Mclain, or contact Del Crow (savduck) for a Natural Addiction. Stick to a hard wood as they are the best for tonal purposes. A good trumpet is made from a good wood, Osage, Cocobola, African or Malaysian Blackwood, Olivewood, and Black Mangrove to name a few. If you are buying a new one then ask the call maker what they recommend and why. Mr. Buice told me he hunted with an Osage and that was good enough for me.
Alot of great call marker on OG. You can find a good trumpet for under $100-125 bucks. To name a few call makers in that price range try Pappy, Crawdad and Brian Mero all three are on OG.
Trumpets have a tremendous dynamic range and played loudly the sound carries a great distance. I agree, it is very noticeable how easily the better trumpets play. A Buice with multiple mouthpieces (different throat diameters and different fundamental pitch) is a great, but not inexpensive, place to start and you may never need another, and as davisd9 said, you can easily resell it if you decide trumpets aren't for you. If you decide you like trumpets, one won't be enough. If you look at trumpets on a spectrogram, like ol bob suggests, you'll see they look very different than other calls. The better trumpets have a very rich spectrum and extended harmonics. There is also a very personal aspect to trumpets. Things like throat diameter, external diameter of the mouthpiece, and square or tapered tip matter. Some popular trumpets just don't work as well for me, but might be just the ticket for someone else. I think the learning curve is significantly longer with trumpets, than say pot calls or box calls. For me it was/is anyway. But the payoff has been well worth the time invested.
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on June 17, 2015, 04:25:49 PM
Trumpets have a tremendous dynamic range and played loudly the sound carries a great distance. I agree, it is very noticeable how easily the better trumpets play. A Buice with multiple mouthpieces (different throat diameters and different fundamental pitch) is a great, but not inexpensive, place to start and you may never need another, and as davisd9 said, you can easily resell it if you decide trumpets aren't for you. If you decide you like trumpets, one won't be enough. If you look at trumpets on a spectrogram, like ol bob suggests, you'll see they look very different than other calls. The better trumpets have a very rich spectrum and extended harmonics. There is also a very personal aspect to trumpets. Things like throat diameter, external diameter of the mouthpiece, and square or tapered tip matter. Some popular trumpets just don't work as well for me, but might be just the ticket for someone else. I think the learning curve is significantly longer with trumpets, than say pot calls or box calls. For me it was/is anyway. But the payoff has been well worth the time invested.
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I personally cannot recommend purchasing a trumpet yelper. They sound too good and cost too much money. Most people who purchase them and become proficient become quickly addicted, and the reaction is similar to being hooked on heroine. My recommendation would be to leave it alone and stick with scratchers... :TooFunny:
Quote from: Trumpetyelper on June 17, 2015, 10:39:25 PM
I personally cannot recommend purchasing a trumpet yelper. They sound too good and cost too much money. Most people who purchase them and become proficient become quickly addicted, and the reaction is similar to being hooked on heroine. My recommendation would be to leave it alone and stick with scratchers... :TooFunny:
Lmao
I would recommend getting a Buice.
Quote from: Trumpetyelper on June 17, 2015, 10:39:25 PM
I personally cannot recommend purchasing a trumpet yelper. They sound too good and cost too much money. Most people who purchase them and become proficient become quickly addicted, and the reaction is similar to being hooked on heroine. My recommendation would be to leave it alone and stick with scratchers... :TooFunny:
Too funny because it's so true. A good trumpet is like having a fine musical instrument. Good luck!!
You guys are always great at helping me spend money. Don't worry I have a very addictive personality so in sure this won't get out of hand.
If you're in a hurry, buy a BUICE, if you have a year or so, get a Cox.
I HAVE A FEW HA. TRUMPETS AND THE BEST SOUNDING ONE THAT I LIKE IS MADE FROM GRAPEFRUIT AND IM TELLING THIS ONE IS OWESOME SOUNDING .......... I GOT THIS ONE AND OTHERS FROM BILLY ... I DO HAVE OTHERS FROM OTHER MAKERS THEY ALL SOUND GOOD
:icon_thumright: good luck on your choice .........
Quote from: Jobugg12 on June 18, 2015, 05:31:40 PM
If you're in a hurry, buy a BUICE, if you have a year or so, get a Cox.
Even if they were both available tomorrow, I still think the Buice is a better place to start. Just my opinion, of course.
Do you have to have a trumpet or would a good sounding, quality built wingbone work for you ??
I bought wingbones, when I started running air operated calls for two reasons....To save $$$ & to see, if I was able to learn to operate this type of call...
Both wingbones & trumpets take some time to learn & understand how to use this type call...Some folks do well with the learning curve & others do not...
Just a thought of another avenue to get yourself started....
How does one go about acquiring a Buice?
Best way to call if you cannot go to his shop. I am sure someone can PM his number.
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I would appreciate a PM from someone. I believe he's in Canton GA and I am in Gainesville GA. I would love to go to his shop.
Quote from: KentuckyHeadhunter on June 18, 2015, 09:24:21 PM
I would appreciate a PM from someone. I believe he's in Canton GA and I am in Gainesville GA. I would love to go to his shop.
Sent you a PM. Talking with Billy on the phone is a real treat. Visiting him in person would be awesome.
He is in Canton.
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Nothing sounds closer to a wild turkey than a trumpet in my opinion, once you figure one out and get around a bunch of hens in the fall or spring, you'll find out it was worth the time and effort. They aren't easy but it does pay off in the long run.
There are a good number of great trumpet call makers today I have been making them 18 years Billy was making them 30 years before I started he is not a great trumpet maker he is a legend you can buy some that look better but nobody makes one better after almost 50 years he has tried every thing that you can do to one, and with him being one of the nicest people you will ever meet hes in a class by him self.
We are going to see Billy tomorrow. He is a great callmaker and a wonderful friend.
Quote from: nitro on June 19, 2015, 12:10:42 PM
We are going to see Billy tomorrow. He is a great callmaker and a wonderful friend.
Tell him I said Hello!! Truly a fine gentlemen.
John D. and Ricky P. joined us among others. We had a great visit. 15 calls found new homes today..
I know you had a great time every time I go it gets harder to leave Billy is a very special person.
Yes Sir. We spent four hours with Billy today. What a great time!!
Quote from: nitro on June 20, 2015, 06:48:02 PM
John D. and Ricky P. joined us among others. We had a great visit. 15 calls found new homes today..
It would be great to see some pics when you get a chance. :)
And you know what I got nitro! I wasn't tootin' any horns but I feel like I landed some pretty hot boxes. I appreciate the hospitality and the invitation. I look forward to more visits.
Mr. Billy playing his favorite hunting call..
Custom ordered by John Dangerfield. Cocus wood - unreal pieces of Cocus. Billy made John real happy with these... 6" , 5.5" and a superb rifle shell wingbone..
Missouri Osage fence post calls.... set for a family - gifts from Father to children.
Work in progress - some killer Ironwood. Ivory cap...
Some of the inventory... Call Billy if interested. He has some marvelous calls for sale.
Happy group. We learned a bunch of callmaking history yesterday. Great way to spend a Saturday.
I would love to make the trek to his shop. Thanks for posting the pics. Beautiful calls. That ironwood is going to be a knockout. Anybody's name on it?
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on June 21, 2015, 10:59:25 AM
I would love to make the trek to his shop. Thanks for posting the pics. Beautiful calls. That ironwood is going to be a knockout. Anybody's name on it?
Custom pre-order, and it is sold. Billy didn't have any Ironwood calls on hand yesterday.
That's some beautiful woods...Sure yall were like kids in a candy store...and probably all left with sore lips... ;D
Quote from: nitro on June 21, 2015, 10:01:36 AM
Mr. Billy playing his favorite hunting call..
He told me one time on the phone he likes a wing bone mouthpiece for his trumpet, does it go directly into the trumpet, or does it go into a delrin mouthpiece which goes into the trumpet?
Billy's #1 hunting call is an old Osage trumpet with his interchangeable MPs. He has a lanyard with 4 or 5 different ones attached. None are made from a wingbone.
His rifleshell wingbone calls are just that- a wing bone permanently glued into a rifleshell that is attached to the body of the trumpet.
All of Billys personal trumpets have a mouthpiece made like a wing bone
If by "like a wing bone" you mean that they are flat tipped MPs, then yes they are shaped like a wingbone.
Quote from: ol bob on June 21, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
All of Billys personal trumpets have a mouthpiece made like a wing bone
I really enjoy talking to Mr. Buice on the phone, a super nice guy!
Quote from: nitro on June 21, 2015, 10:04:28 PM
If by "like a wing bone" you mean that they are flat tipped MPs, then yes they are shaped like a wingbone.
Quote from: ol bob on June 21, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
All of Billys personal trumpets have a mouthpiece made like a wing bone
Thats what I was talking about he can play a round mouth piece but he don't like them
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