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Title: Tractor Help?
Post by: guesswho on July 30, 2011, 02:40:08 PM
HELP!  I NEED MECHANICAL HELP! :DI need help with a tractor problem.  I have a 1950's Ferguson TO30.  It has been converted to 12v from 6v.  

SymptomsThis morning I was on it and it just quit like you turned the key off.  I checked everything and started it back up, it would run about 1 second and shut off.  Finally I pulled the choke all the way out and was able to go another 100 yards before it shut off again.  I cleaned the positive and negative cables from the battery the best I could.  Both cables get real hot when you engage the starter, I mean smoke coming off them.  And one time the starter didn't want to dissengage, I had to take the positive cable off the battery to get it to stop.  

Any ideas to what may be the problem?  Coil, solenoid, voltage reducer, all the above?  

If the voltage reducer (12V to 6V) is bad what would the symptoms be?  
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Post by: kamski1151 on July 30, 2011, 04:13:16 PM
www.yesterdaystractor.com
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Post by: rtsj on July 30, 2011, 06:21:52 PM
Check your Push button starter switch. Might be sticking.
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Post by: Tail Feathers on July 30, 2011, 11:27:09 PM
The cables overheating make me think maybe the voltage regulator/reducer but I'm not much of a mechanic. :help:
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Post by: jde on July 31, 2011, 02:55:44 AM
volt regulator bad easy fix
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Post by: guesswho on July 31, 2011, 09:52:52 PM
Replaced the voltage reducer, nada.  It's still sitting in the woods.  I checked the coil and it appears it might be bad.  I'm getting no fire to the points now.  I put a meter on the coils pos and neg poles and got an ohm readin 0f 1.5.  Put it in the center of the coil and one on the pos and nothing, same with the neg pole and center.  I guess I'll try a new coil and points, then if that don't fix it I'll replace the voltage regulator.  And if it still doesn't run after that, well ya'll remember my hat?

I do have another question.  If it's been converted to 12 volt from six volt do I buy a 12 volt regulator or a six.  The coil thats on it now says its a 12 volt and an external resistor is required :-\    What confuses me is it has a generator instead of a alternator, but it does have a 12 volt battery.  I've had it for about 10 years and have had very little trouble with it, I just don't know wether to replace the parts with 12 volt or 6 volt parts.
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Post by: redarrow on August 01, 2011, 03:49:08 PM
If you haven't done so already   www.yesterdaystractor.com   These guys are tractor gurus.
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Post by: GobbleNut on August 01, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
If I was you, I would contact the NWTF about it....... ;D
(Sorry,...just couldn't resist, Ronnie.  Unfortunately, I don't know squat about mechanics either, so I can't help you out with any real constructive suggestions.
good luck with it....)
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Post by: guesswho on August 01, 2011, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on August 01, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
If I was you, I would contact the NWTF about it....... ;D
(Sorry,...just couldn't resist, Ronnie.  Unfortunately, I don't know squat about mechanics either, so I can't help you out with any real constructive suggestions.
good luck with it....)
So what your saying is, you as much about tractors and tractor restoration as the N"WTF knows about turkeys and turkey restoration ;D.  The N"WTF" said they would fix it for me if I gave it to them so they could disc up all that N"WTF" land thats open to the public.  I told them they could do that with it in it's current condition, brokedown!

I ordered a push button starter, 12 volt coil, 12 volt voltage regulator, and point's and condenser for it.  Hopefully that will fix it.  If not I may have to hold another private ceremony :TooFunny:
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Post by: Preacher on August 01, 2011, 04:58:51 PM
you may have gotten your points mixed up, or you distriburator cap may have mositure in it.   
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Post by: mmclain on August 01, 2011, 09:56:41 PM
My 50's Ferguson did the same thing.....it was grounding out.....the starter positive wire touched the block.....look between the starter and the block....
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Post by: guesswho on August 02, 2011, 08:28:33 AM
Quote from: mmclain on August 01, 2011, 09:56:41 PM
My 50's Ferguson did the same thing.....it was grounding out.....the starter positive wire touched the block.....look between the starter and the block....
Will do, thanks.